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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?

    @cainedesoulis said:

    if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?

    First off, really ANY pick has a 50/50 chance at being a successful one. That said, if you should find yourself looking at Lynch and at any time thinking to yourself that you just don't see the surefire, bonafide #1 Overall (Peyton, Luck as recent examples) then chances are its a smart idea to take a pass.

    Football teams are ecosystems, when the positions are too far out of balance the team does not thrive except under rare conditions.

    That said, how many games has JJ Watt won this year? Well seeing as how the Texans defense has kept them in a few W's, I'd say at least couple on his own.

  • i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).

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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).

    @cainedesoulis said:

    i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).

    What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?

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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).

    @cainedesoulis said:

    i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).

    Taking a shot at the QB spot for the sake of doing it is what sets franchises back. Please look at the recent history of Jacksonville, Tampa, San Fran, Minnesota and the Browns for god sake.

  • in all those cases another team picking before them got a Good to great QB. we are the team picking before them now.

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    @cainedesoulis said:

    i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).

    What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?

    Then he will deserve one of those super hero monikers.

    Pick one:

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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    in all those cases another team picking before them got a Good to great QB. we are the team picking before them now.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    in all those cases another team picking before them got a Good to great QB. we are the team picking before them now.

    That's my point. The great QB's were off the board and the one's their respective teams took were highly questionable.

    In a draft that isn't deep at the QB position, what product are you expecting us to have in Paxton?

    You can look me in the eye after watching his tape and say he's a day 1 starter with the Browns?

  • i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good

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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good

    @cainedesoulis said:

    i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good

    Then he isn't your #1 overall pick. Pretty simple.

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  • i haven't seen anyone else be as impressive at a spot the browns need.

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  • C CaineDeSoulis

    i haven't seen anyone else be as impressive at a spot the browns need.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    i haven't seen anyone else be as impressive at a spot the browns need.

    Have you watched anyone else?

  • indeed i have. Smith out of notre dame maybe. Ramsey is okay but i worry about the whole S/CB thing going on a little to much of a project there. Bosa has been a kruger clone this year and has said he doesn't care for the city of cleveland. a RB at 1 overall is insane. there is no calvin johnson cant miss WR in this draft. the best this class has is a slot guy. really who is your top guy? who actually is worth the number 1 in your eyes. Personally i hope we draft #2 after the titans that way they can get bosa and we can get lynch without the osu homers complaining. We have zero need of a tackle so most lineman can wait until day 2-3.

    Also bear in mind we currently have 2 4th round comp picks and 2 5th round comp picks which is some food for thought.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?

    Then he will deserve one of those super hero monikers.

    Pick one:

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    @the-gipper said:

    Then he will deserve one of those super hero monikers.

    Pick one:

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    My vote is for She-Thing
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @cainedesoulis said:

    i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good

    Then he isn't your #1 overall pick. Pretty simple.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Then he isn't your #1 overall pick. Pretty simple.

    I don't think you have to start a #1 overall QB right away. I would hope, however, that player would at minimum, make it difficult for you to sit him.

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  • Id like a Bosa, Zeke draft... Not just bc Im a Buckeye fan either...

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  • i mean perfect world I'd like bosa and lynch and henry or christian next year not a fan of zeke

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  • Mike HM Mike H

    I like Goff over Lynch from limited I have seen of both.

    If they decide to give up on Manziel, QB should be the pick. The question then is which one.

    And I get that there plenty of problems with the roster -- but removing their coaching stuff (Especially every person involved with their defense), could help.

    Defensive coordinator candidates shouldn't be hard to find. Perry Fewell did a nice job with NYG as DC for a period. Hes the DB coach for Redskins. Their personnel (from my understanding) has been injured, and subpar talent-wise, but they're not playing so poorly.

    @mike-h said:

    I like Goff over Lynch from limited I have seen of both.

    If they decide to give up on Manziel, QB should be the pick. The question then is which one.

    agreed. when you don't have a franchise QB in place and you have the first pick of the entire draft you don't get greedy and stockpile pix or have the luxury of drooling over Jadaveon Clowneys. safe odds say you take a shot at getting your franchise face, hit or miss, win or lose.

    the alternative? spending 3 drafts worth of #1's to trade up to get the #1 overall in 2017 or 2018 ala RG3? yeah no thanks.

    even if he ends up being Sam Bradford or Matt Stafford, or even Jamarcus or Ryan Lief >> when in Rome...and WHILE in Rome...you absolutely make the sacrifice to try to get your guy in place. too expensive a trip otherwise. the cost equates to the pain of being the 32nd team out of 32 other teams. get ur QB. then the blue chip luxury pieces come thereafter.

    without a franchise QB, Calvin Johnsons, Adrian Petersons, Khalil Macks and JJ Watts are about the same as a Joe Thomas in terms of wins.

    if it's Johnny so be it it's Johnny. and if that's the case spending a #1 on a QB just to back him up and get groomed for the (potential) future won't even hurt. it's just the single most important position in all mainstream sports. best case: would having two really be that bad? how about having none? the Browns franchise is worth about 1.5B. a mazzeroti with no driver isn't makin it anywhere fast.

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