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    B Browns11606 wrote on last edited by
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    The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

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      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      Yep

      Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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        ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
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        Ya that kinda starts with not blowing two first round draft picks every year.

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          Now that's not to say he hasn't had a great season but McCown played decent and we're still 3 and 12.

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            B Browns11606 wrote on last edited by
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            That's why I said attempt to build this team haha

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              What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

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                ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
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                @flugel said:

                What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

                Touche sir. *That starts with not blowing 9 draft picks every year
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                  What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

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                  @flugel said:

                  What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

                  Thought only the Browns were dumb enough to draft OL in the first round? You're saying theres other teams that are winning that do that? Damn....

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                    Ya that kinda starts with not blowing two first round draft picks every year.

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                    @comeonman said:

                    Ya that kinda starts with not blowing two first round draft picks every year.

                    That would be a great place to start for sure

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                      B Browns11606 wrote on last edited by
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                      Personally were a long ways away and I don't give a shit what happens but farmers definitely gotta go.

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                        God forbid you get a gm and coach that are competent and can work together...

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                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                          the Jets also have 2 wr that are big and talented

                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            @browns11606 said:

                            The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

                            QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.

                            IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.

                            If not, then take a later prospect.

                            Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

                            "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                              @browns11606 said:

                              The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

                              QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.

                              IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.

                              If not, then take a later prospect.

                              Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

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                              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.If not, then take a later prospect.Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

                              How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                              Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                              Most good teams have good Qb's

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.If not, then take a later prospect.Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

                                How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                                Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                                Most good teams have good Qb's

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                                Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                @browns149 said:

                                How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                                Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                                Most good teams have good Qb's

                                Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

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                                  @browns149 said:

                                  How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                                  Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                                  Most good teams have good Qb's

                                  Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

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                                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mark-o said:

                                  Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

                                  That's 2. Any others?

                                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                    @flugel said:

                                    What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

                                    Thought only the Browns were dumb enough to draft OL in the first round? You're saying theres other teams that are winning that do that? Damn....

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                                    Thought only the Browns were dumb enough to draft OL in the first round? You're saying theres other teams that are winning that do that? Damn....

                                    LOL! True, this looks like the 3rd consecutive Coaching staff Mangold and Ferguson are going to accompany into a post season. And what would make Bill Belichick take such leave of his senses to draft a guy like OT Nate Solder in the first round a few years ago?

                                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                      @mark-o said:

                                      Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

                                      That's 2. Any others?

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                                      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      That's 2. Any others?

                                      The Ravens didn't really contend until they got Flacco.

                                      Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                                        B Browns11606 wrote on last edited by
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                                        I mean if there's a sure fire guy yeah you absolutely take him. But how often is that and you need to be able to evaluate talent which we cannot do.

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          And the Bengals Dalton and the Pats Brady and the Seahawks...

                                          Point is that they kept looking...

                                          Prior to Flacco the Ravens drafted a QB 7 of the 12 prior years. Since then... twice in 7 years. The priority changes; the emphasis changes, but they kept looking and they keep looking..

                                          Teams not waiting for a QB until last?

                                          Bucs, Titans, Jags, Oakland, Indy, Washington, CAR

                                          Teams that waited and are still waiting:

                                          Philly, Houston, NYJ, BUF

                                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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