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  • FlugelF Flugel

    What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

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    @flugel said:

    What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

    Thought only the Browns were dumb enough to draft OL in the first round? You're saying theres other teams that are winning that do that? Damn....

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      Ya that kinda starts with not blowing two first round draft picks every year.

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      @comeonman said:

      Ya that kinda starts with not blowing two first round draft picks every year.

      That would be a great place to start for sure

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        Personally were a long ways away and I don't give a shit what happens but farmers definitely gotta go.

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          God forbid you get a gm and coach that are competent and can work together...

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            the Jets also have 2 wr that are big and talented

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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              The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              @browns11606 said:

              The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

              QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.

              IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.

              If not, then take a later prospect.

              Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

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                @browns11606 said:

                The Jets are 10-5..because of Fitzpatrick right? I know Johnny is probably not the answer but anyone who thinks a quarterback will fix this team is delusional. We need to keep attempting to build this team before we draft a quarterback.

                QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.

                IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.

                If not, then take a later prospect.

                Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @tour2ma said:

                QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.If not, then take a later prospect.Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

                How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                Most good teams have good Qb's

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  QB as the last piece is the hardest path to follow.IF there is a Rnd 1 worthy prospect in this year's draft, I say take him.If not, then take a later prospect.Either way, you have to keep looking for your next QB... especially when he is not on your roster. And I do not think he is...

                  How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                  Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                  Most good teams have good Qb's

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                  @browns149 said:

                  How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                  Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                  Most good teams have good Qb's

                  Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

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                    @browns149 said:

                    How many teams have been built without a good Qb,and then plugged in a good Qb and won?

                    Kurt Warner and the Rams come to mind, but that's about it.

                    Most good teams have good Qb's

                    Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

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                    @mark-o said:

                    Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

                    That's 2. Any others?

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      @flugel said:

                      What rounds did the NYJ's draft Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson in? Round 1?

                      Thought only the Browns were dumb enough to draft OL in the first round? You're saying theres other teams that are winning that do that? Damn....

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                      @mark-o said:

                      Thought only the Browns were dumb enough to draft OL in the first round? You're saying theres other teams that are winning that do that? Damn....

                      LOL! True, this looks like the 3rd consecutive Coaching staff Mangold and Ferguson are going to accompany into a post season. And what would make Bill Belichick take such leave of his senses to draft a guy like OT Nate Solder in the first round a few years ago?

                      I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                        @mark-o said:

                        Steelers and rapelessbooger come to mind.

                        That's 2. Any others?

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                        Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                        @browns149 said:

                        That's 2. Any others?

                        The Ravens didn't really contend until they got Flacco.

                        Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                          B Browns11606 wrote on last edited by
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                          I mean if there's a sure fire guy yeah you absolutely take him. But how often is that and you need to be able to evaluate talent which we cannot do.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            And the Bengals Dalton and the Pats Brady and the Seahawks...

                            Point is that they kept looking...

                            Prior to Flacco the Ravens drafted a QB 7 of the 12 prior years. Since then... twice in 7 years. The priority changes; the emphasis changes, but they kept looking and they keep looking..

                            Teams not waiting for a QB until last?

                            Bucs, Titans, Jags, Oakland, Indy, Washington, CAR

                            Teams that waited and are still waiting:

                            Philly, Houston, NYJ, BUF

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                              @browns149 said:

                              That's 2. Any others?

                              The Ravens didn't really contend until they got Flacco.

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                              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                              @canton-dawg said:

                              The Ravens didn't really contend until they got Flacco.

                              They won a SB before Flacco was there

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                @canton-dawg said:

                                The Ravens didn't really contend until they got Flacco.

                                They won a SB before Flacco was there

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                                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by Canton Dawg
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                                @browns149 said:

                                They won a SB before Flacco was there

                                True, 8 years prior to drafting Flacco.

                                The Stoolers were 9 years removed from a SB before drafting the Rapist.

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                                  Well I don't know. I'm no professional all I know is we've been garbage from top to bottom for far to long. And I have no anwser.

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                                    LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                                    Point is that that if you have a new regime drafting who they want and releasing who aren't their guys keeps you treading water in the same place.

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                                      VesnaKociper said:

                                      There is NOTHING WRONG with drafting an OL in the first round. Paul Brown was against it and only drafted one... Munoz.

                                      True... unless you count the other first round OL he took...

                                      Like Dave Rimmington...

                                      ... and Vern Holland...

                                      ... and Bob Johnson...

                                      ... and Kurt Buris...

                                      ... and John Bauer...

                                      but other than them... true...

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                                        Nothing like a 3-win season to bring out the pussies.

                                        I can't even imagine how miserable you guys are in real life.

                                        I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                                          VesnaKociper said:

                                          There is NOTHING WRONG with drafting an OL in the first round. Paul Brown was against it and only drafted one... Munoz.

                                          True... unless you count the other first round OL he took...

                                          Like Dave Rimmington...

                                          ... and Vern Holland...

                                          ... and Bob Johnson...

                                          ... and Kurt Buris...

                                          ... and John Bauer...

                                          but other than them... true...

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                                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          True... unless you count the other first round OL he took...Like Dave Rimmington...... and Vern Holland...... and Bob Johnson...... and Kurt Buris...... and John Bauer...but other than them... true...

                                          Don't let the facts get in the way of stupidity

                                          He also said the Browns only NFL title was in 1964

                                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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