Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Well, I wrote yesterday in 2 other threads about this latest debacle. I knew the concussion story was BS.
I think the story now turns to johnny's health. He is obviously in way over his head, and he and the Browns are suffering heavily for it. I just can't believe that such talented people with such great possibility let substance abuse wreck their lives, but Johnny is just another in a long list of names to do so.
For him to have any chance at any NFL life now is a true longshot.
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Just the messenger:
and then there's this too:
Just the messenger:
and then there's this too:
Yea we know. We want him to go to Dallas too.
If the guy wasn't rich, I'd say take up a collection to buy his plane ticket.....
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I backed Johnny, still think the talent is there, but I also believe he will be, & SHOULD be a Brown NO MORE. Get rid of the drama & negative publicity that was the "Johnny & Mike Show", wipe the slate clean & start again.
There is no doubt in my mind that Jimmy Haslam is passionate about bringing a winner to Cleveland. That alone gives me hope. He's made mistakes & has an uphill road to travel, but I think he can & will experience success here & I intend to go along for the whole ride.
Mike
but I think he can & will experience success here & I intend to go along for the whole ride.
Mike
You do that, I intend on checking out emotionally because I fully expect this draft class to be complete trash.
I might poke my head back in when things start to turn around...
...but they won't. Not until Haslam can humble himself ala Jerry Jones a bit.
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keep him on the team. change his position to cornerback, make him inactive for two years, and make fun of him at pressers till he self-destructs.
self-entitled cunt manziel.....
probably spoiled his whole life.
I wanted garrapolo....
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He fucking raps and drinks four loko's on christmas.....
and doesn't respect us....
what a spoiled little bitch
fuck him//
To quote the mighty ducks, "He's not even a has been, he's a never was"....
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Is McCown signed through next year?
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
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Well, I wrote yesterday in 2 other threads about this latest debacle. I knew the concussion story was BS.
I think the story now turns to johnny's health. He is obviously in way over his head, and he and the Browns are suffering heavily for it. I just can't believe that such talented people with such great possibility let substance abuse wreck their lives, but Johnny is just another in a long list of names to do so.
For him to have any chance at any NFL life now is a true longshot.
Well, I wrote yesterday in 2 other threads about this latest debacle. I knew the concussion story was BS.
You called it Aggie
Coldnt come up with a legit reason to fake it....but who woulda guessed the real story though?.....wowza
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VesnaKociper said:
The real sin here, is that any of you ever accepted this piece of shit once his colors were exposed. There was simply no reason for him to have ever finished his rookie year as a Brown. How could anyone not know this guy hated Cleveland?
Seriously, would you want to play in Cleveland? You would have to be nuts.
Then why send a text to the Browns org saying "pick me pick me!"
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I guess I should take a victory lap here ... but actually this makes me sad. I know I pissed off the A&M boys and good Browns fans like Westside and TCPO over this guy ... but something never smelled right with this guy. He's not a Brown. At least we found out in two years and not three. McCown and Goff wouldnt be the worst thing for an offensive minded coach to start with next year.
Z
Zombo said:
I guess I should take a victory lap here ... but actually this makes me sad. I know I pissed off the A&M boys and good Browns fans like Westside and TCPO over this guy ... but something never smelled right with this guy. He's not a Brown. At least we found out in two years and not three. McCown and Goff wouldn't be the worst thing for an offensive minded coach to start with next year.
Z
Z, it's not the on field stuff- it's the off field stuff that bought him his ticket out of town. He knows what he has to do, and can't do it- or just plain doesn't care.
VesnaKociper said:
The real sin here, is that any of you ever accepted this piece of shit once his colors were exposed. There was simply no reason for him to have ever finished his rookie year as a Brown. How could anyone not know this guy hated Cleveland?
Seriously, would you want to play in Cleveland? You would have to be nuts.
The reality Tom is in the history of the NFL a first round pick has never been cut after one season. I don't think he hated Cleveland- it's just that he likes partying and drinking more. Assuming Tony Grossi is right- and I have no reason to believe he'd make up an accusation like that if he wasn't sure it was correct- Manziel showed up for work drunk on Wednesday. Most corporations would have fired him on the spot for something like that. The only reason they didn't cut him is the (faint) hope they can sucker a seventh round pick out of Dallas for the guy.
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Zombo said:
I guess I should take a victory lap here ... but actually this makes me sad. I know I pissed off the A&M boys and good Browns fans like Westside and TCPO over this guy ... but something never smelled right with this guy. He's not a Brown. At least we found out in two years and not three. McCown and Goff wouldn't be the worst thing for an offensive minded coach to start with next year.
Z
Z, it's not the on field stuff- it's the off field stuff that bought him his ticket out of town. He knows what he has to do, and can't do it- or just plain doesn't care.
VesnaKociper said:
The real sin here, is that any of you ever accepted this piece of shit once his colors were exposed. There was simply no reason for him to have ever finished his rookie year as a Brown. How could anyone not know this guy hated Cleveland?
Seriously, would you want to play in Cleveland? You would have to be nuts.
The reality Tom is in the history of the NFL a first round pick has never been cut after one season. I don't think he hated Cleveland- it's just that he likes partying and drinking more. Assuming Tony Grossi is right- and I have no reason to believe he'd make up an accusation like that if he wasn't sure it was correct- Manziel showed up for work drunk on Wednesday. Most corporations would have fired him on the spot for something like that. The only reason they didn't cut him is the (faint) hope they can sucker a seventh round pick out of Dallas for the guy.
Z, it's not the on field stuff- it's the off field stuff that bought him his ticket out of town. He knows what he has to do, and can't do it- or just plain doesn't care.
Well, I called him out on both didn't I?
Early and often.
Josh McCown ... that's a Cleveland Brown. Hope the new coach keeps him.
Zombo
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It is understood that JM is with Bowe in Vegas letting their money "ride" at a table and from reports the table is "hot" and they never want to leave a hot table
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VesnaKociper said:
The real sin here, is that any of you ever accepted this piece of shit once his colors were exposed. There was simply no reason for him to have ever finished his rookie year as a Brown. How could anyone not know this guy hated Cleveland?
Seriously, would you want to play in Cleveland? You would have to be nuts.
Then why send a text to the Browns org saying "pick me pick me!"
that's an easy one....he was falling out of the first round and needed a desperate team to pull the trigger.Then why send a text to the Browns org saying "pick me pick me!"
I have believed from day one he was a con man. I actually think he's so good at manipulating that he doesn't even know he's doing it himself.
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why was he even drafted? thats the one I don't get.VesnaKociper said:
The real sin here, is that any of you ever accepted this piece of shit once his colors were exposed. There was simply no reason for him to have ever finished his rookie year as a Brown. How could anyone not know this guy hated Cleveland?
Seriously, would you want to play in Cleveland? You would have to be nuts.
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Not sure what I bet at the casino today, but I went in with $140 and left with $125. But e person I was with paid for parking and gas, so i got out ahead, plus got 2 free buffet
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why was he even drafted? thats the one I don't get.VesnaKociper said:
The real sin here, is that any of you ever accepted this piece of shit once his colors were exposed. There was simply no reason for him to have ever finished his rookie year as a Brown. How could anyone not know this guy hated Cleveland?
Seriously, would you want to play in Cleveland? You would have to be nuts.
why was he even drafted? thats the one I don't get.
FARMER SUCKED
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I don't know why anyone would want to keep Johnny three fingers. Just take the cap hit and move on no reason to keep a cancer on the team. Unless we're going to start him and see if we can be the first team to have a player get killed on the field. Then I'm all for it
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I don't like Pettine but there isn't a viable replacement. Fire Farmer (Obviously)
Make Haslam sign a contract that he won't intervene.
That's the best I can come up with.
Anyone else got a better idea?
I don't like Pettine but there isn't a viable replacement. Fire Farmer (Obviously)
Make Haslam sign a contract that he won't intervene.
That's the best I can come up with.
Anyone else got a better idea?
Oh you wanted to keep Pettine at 5pm? Hows all those months whining about Pettine seem to you now? You see what this clown show is now? We get talk about Sashi Brown. You cant' make this shit up anymore. Congrats, you got what you wanted all season long. Now it's gonna get fun.
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