2016 qb's rated
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when evaluating I start with swag..all top qb's have a narcissist type confidence. They are the ones who succeed in the 4th quarter. In fact out of 16 Meyer Briggs personality types many of the Hall of Fame qb's have the exact same personality type...Forget that "face of the franchise" bs...you want a rebel. The QB who is willing to call his own plays and lead in the 4th quarter. Swagger
So we wanted Johnny?
What Myers-Briggs box and how many of the 16 are in it?
So we wanted Johnny?
What Myers-Briggs box and how many of the 16 are in it?
ESTP
Jones could rattle off the names of all the great quarterbacks who were ESTPs (FEIRs): Joe Montana, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Joe Namath, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Fran Tarkenton and Brett Favre. An eye-catching majority of the Hall of Fame quarterbacks who played in the past 30 years are this one personality type.
So were other Super Bowl–winning quarterbacks Ken Stabler, Phil Simms, Joe Theismann and Trent Dilfer. Jones used the famous NFL Films anecdote of Montana -- the moment before beginning a last-minute, game-winning, touchdown drive in the Super Bowl, walking into the huddle and matter-of-factly pointing out John Candy in the crowd to one of his linemen as an example of a guy wired to thrive under pressure.
“ESTPs, under pressure, play their best,” said Jones.
“I had this conversation with [former Denver Broncos head coach] Dan Reeves. He wanted to get rid of John Elway. He said Elway couldn’t learn the playbook. But guess who was so great in the two-minute drill? John Elway. Guess who was calling all the plays then? John Elway.
I rated Manziel as the 36th best prospect..long on swag a little short on talent
to be fair the Browns also didn't do him any favors..he needed a tall Evans wr for when he scrambled..and he should be allowed to scramble and not be a pocket passer.
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Somebody must be getting kickbacks for ranking Paxton Lynch so high. He couldn't muster a touchdown against Auburn. Hopefully his stock falls before the Browns draft another Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden.
They need help at so many posititions a QB as the first pick better be a HOME RUN!
Bosa, Elliot, Cardale
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I think Paxton Lynch has a low chance of success in the NFL - as a result his stock will fall a bit on draft day almost in a Quinn-esque fashion.
The guy is a spread offense guy, doesn't make the reads, struggles on deep accuracy. He could succeed, but I think the odds are pretty low. Probably too low for a first-round pick.
Goff however...this is a prospect who is more intriguing to me than both Winston and Mariota (#1 and #2) last year. Also more intriguing to me than guys like Manziel, Bortles, and Carr were in 2014.
I think Goff has by far a much bigger potential than people here (and some other places) think. Potentially the guy to end the cycle of 20-25 or however many starting QBs since 99'
But that's just what I think...The guy has the mechanics, the size (should bulk up a bit), accuracy, power, pocket awareness, and consistently makes the right read.
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We should be able to land Lynch around pick 22...
Would you be suggesting our next 1st round qb flop? Or that we'll most likely trade down from the 2nd pick? LOL
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Several respected pundits have said there is not a 1st round talent QB out there in this draft. That whoever you take will be the equivalent of EJ Manuel.
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Somebody must be getting kickbacks for ranking Paxton Lynch so high. He couldn't muster a touchdown against Auburn. Hopefully his stock falls before the Browns draft another Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden.
They need help at so many posititions a QB as the first pick better be a HOME RUN!
Bosa, Elliot, Cardale
Payton Lynch
Somebody must be getting kickbacks for ranking Paxton Lynch so high. He couldn't muster a touchdown against Auburn. Hopefully his stock falls before the Browns draft another Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden.
They need help at so many posititions a QB as the first pick better be a HOME RUN!
Bosa, Elliot, CardaleLynch vs Auburn? how about Carr vs USC.... guess you thought Carr would be a bust after that game...I didn't I had him 13th overall
fans tend to make way too much out of individual games....Memphis vs Auburn? anyone.really thought Lynch would win?
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If he declares... I'm all in on,
Chad Kelly.
Kid has A grade a arm.
Jim Kellys nephew. Jim claims wether it's just him talking his nephew up or not has a better arm and wheels than him in college.
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Several respected pundits have said there is not a 1st round talent QB out there in this draft. That whoever you take will be the equivalent of EJ Manuel.
Several respected pundits have said there is not a 1st round talent QB out there in this draft. That whoever you take will be the equivalent of EJ Manuel.
Eh I'd say a lot are high on Goff. It's still too early for the final projections but I suspect he'll be regarded as a top pick by many.
I haven't really been too high on any QBs in recent years, but Goff is the first.
He carried a team with basically no talent and has all the right tools.
I won't say "book it" yet, but I'm thinking he may be the franchise QB for many years for somebody.
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Cardale at 4?
Dude settle down he is from fucking Ohio
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I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue. I would love to see one full season of him and Gordon. I think Chip Kelly's last hope in the NFL would be an attempt at his speedy offense with those two and Duke Johnson. I feel like those guys combined with our other speedy receivers would do some damage.
With that being said, I am also very open to drafting a QB if Bosa is taken number one. I do like a lot of what I see in Goff. That dude has a cannon and great accuracy. I only get worried with him cause he dances around a bit in the pocket, he gets happy feet. It's not a big deal, so does Peyton Manning, but it does cause some concern for me.
If not Goff, I think we should gamble on Cardale. He could be the next Cam Newton if you build around him. I am not even a huge OSU fan (Illini) but that kid is a massive talent, he just needs the right coaching imo. -
Carson Wentz, Brandon Doughty and Blake Frohnapfel are the three I'm most interested in.
Still have to watch a little more tape, though. But I like the size, arm talent and decision making of those three thus far.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue. I would love to see one full season of him and Gordon. I think Chip Kelly's last hope in the NFL would be an attempt at his speedy offense with those two and Duke Johnson. I feel like those guys combined with our other speedy receivers would do some damage.
With that being said, I am also very open to drafting a QB if Bosa is taken number one. I do like a lot of what I see in Goff. That dude has a cannon and great accuracy. I only get worried with him cause he dances around a bit in the pocket, he gets happy feet. It's not a big deal, so does Peyton Manning, but it does cause some concern for me.
If not Goff, I think we should gamble on Cardale. He could be the next Cam Newton if you build around him. I am not even a huge OSU fan (Illini) but that kid is a massive talent, he just needs the right coaching imo.I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue.
The definition of potential.....he hasn't done shit yet in the NFL. Lying to the team about where you are is not a concern?? Not showing up on more than one occasion to a required team thing isn't a concern? He better hope that Jerry Jones is still in love with him because that's about his last chance in the NFL. No one will trust him because he can't be trusted.
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Carson Wentz, Brandon Doughty and Blake Frohnapfel are the three I'm most interested in.
Still have to watch a little more tape, though. But I like the size, arm talent and decision making of those three thus far.
Carson Wentz, Brandon Doughty and Blake Frohnapfel are the three I'm most interested in.
Still have to watch a little more tape, though. But I like the size, arm talent and decision making of those three thus far.
I don't know anything about any of them. But I've heard good things about Wentz....I've never really heard of the last two. But I'd rather go with a 2nd or 3rd round guy and McCown than taking a QB at 2 as I just don't think any of them are good enough for the #2 overall pick. I'd rather take Bosa, especially if the reports are accurate as to how good he can be in the NFL.
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I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue. I would love to see one full season of him and Gordon. I think Chip Kelly's last hope in the NFL would be an attempt at his speedy offense with those two and Duke Johnson. I feel like those guys combined with our other speedy receivers would do some damage.
With that being said, I am also very open to drafting a QB if Bosa is taken number one. I do like a lot of what I see in Goff. That dude has a cannon and great accuracy. I only get worried with him cause he dances around a bit in the pocket, he gets happy feet. It's not a big deal, so does Peyton Manning, but it does cause some concern for me.
If not Goff, I think we should gamble on Cardale. He could be the next Cam Newton if you build around him. I am not even a huge OSU fan (Illini) but that kid is a massive talent, he just needs the right coaching imo.I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential.
Potential is the one thing Johnny will always have...
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I notice the OP starts his evaluations based on 'swag'. I'll presume street cred is also highly factored in as well, no?
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