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  • CaineDeSoulis C
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    C CaineDeSoulis wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

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      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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      Somebody must be getting kickbacks for ranking Paxton Lynch so high. He couldn't muster a touchdown against Auburn. Hopefully his stock falls before the Browns draft another Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden.

      They need help at so many posititions a QB as the first pick better be a HOME RUN!

      Bosa, Elliot, Cardale

      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        We should be able to land Lynch around pick 22...

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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          I think Paxton Lynch has a low chance of success in the NFL - as a result his stock will fall a bit on draft day almost in a Quinn-esque fashion.

          The guy is a spread offense guy, doesn't make the reads, struggles on deep accuracy. He could succeed, but I think the odds are pretty low. Probably too low for a first-round pick.

          Goff however...this is a prospect who is more intriguing to me than both Winston and Mariota (#1 and #2) last year. Also more intriguing to me than guys like Manziel, Bortles, and Carr were in 2014.

          I think Goff has by far a much bigger potential than people here (and some other places) think. Potentially the guy to end the cycle of 20-25 or however many starting QBs since 99'

          But that's just what I think...The guy has the mechanics, the size (should bulk up a bit), accuracy, power, pocket awareness, and consistently makes the right read.

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          • Tour2maT Tour2ma

            We should be able to land Lynch around pick 22...

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            C chimpy07 wrote on last edited by
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            @tour2ma said:

            We should be able to land Lynch around pick 22...

            Would you be suggesting our next 1st round qb flop? Or that we'll most likely trade down from the 2nd pick? LOL

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              @tour2ma said:

              We should be able to land Lynch around pick 22...

              Would you be suggesting our next 1st round qb flop? Or that we'll most likely trade down from the 2nd pick? LOL

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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              @chimpy07 said:

              Would you be suggesting our next 1st round qb flop? Or that we'll most likely trade down from the 2nd pick? LOL

              Me? Never... 😉

              Had I been goofing around I'm sure bb would have caught it...

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                Several respected pundits have said there is not a 1st round talent QB out there in this draft. That whoever you take will be the equivalent of EJ Manuel.

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                • Opal312O Opal312

                  Somebody must be getting kickbacks for ranking Paxton Lynch so high. He couldn't muster a touchdown against Auburn. Hopefully his stock falls before the Browns draft another Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden.

                  They need help at so many posititions a QB as the first pick better be a HOME RUN!

                  Bosa, Elliot, Cardale

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                  P poplarbluffman wrote on last edited by
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                  Payton Lynch

                  @opal312 said:

                  Somebody must be getting kickbacks for ranking Paxton Lynch so high. He couldn't muster a touchdown against Auburn. Hopefully his stock falls before the Browns draft another Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden.
                  They need help at so many posititions a QB as the first pick better be a HOME RUN!
                  Bosa, Elliot, Cardale

                  Lynch vs Auburn? how about Carr vs USC.... guess you thought Carr would be a bust after that game...I didn't I had him 13th overall

                  fans tend to make way too much out of individual games....Memphis vs Auburn? anyone.really thought Lynch would win?

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                    Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    If he declares... I'm all in on,

                    Chad Kelly.

                    Kid has A grade a arm.

                    Jim Kellys nephew. Jim claims wether it's just him talking his nephew up or not has a better arm and wheels than him in college.

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                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                      Several respected pundits have said there is not a 1st round talent QB out there in this draft. That whoever you take will be the equivalent of EJ Manuel.

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                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Several respected pundits have said there is not a 1st round talent QB out there in this draft. That whoever you take will be the equivalent of EJ Manuel.

                      Eh I'd say a lot are high on Goff. It's still too early for the final projections but I suspect he'll be regarded as a top pick by many.

                      I haven't really been too high on any QBs in recent years, but Goff is the first.

                      He carried a team with basically no talent and has all the right tools.

                      I won't say "book it" yet, but I'm thinking he may be the franchise QB for many years for somebody.

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                      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                        Cardale at 4?

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                        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Cardale at 4?

                        Dude settle down he is from fucking Ohio

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                          P Pcollier19 wrote on last edited by
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                          I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue. I would love to see one full season of him and Gordon. I think Chip Kelly's last hope in the NFL would be an attempt at his speedy offense with those two and Duke Johnson. I feel like those guys combined with our other speedy receivers would do some damage.

                          With that being said, I am also very open to drafting a QB if Bosa is taken number one. I do like a lot of what I see in Goff. That dude has a cannon and great accuracy. I only get worried with him cause he dances around a bit in the pocket, he gets happy feet. It's not a big deal, so does Peyton Manning, but it does cause some concern for me.

                          If not Goff, I think we should gamble on Cardale. He could be the next Cam Newton if you build around him. I am not even a huge OSU fan (Illini) but that kid is a massive talent, he just needs the right coaching imo.

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                            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                            Carson Wentz, Brandon Doughty and Blake Frohnapfel are the three I'm most interested in.

                            Still have to watch a little more tape, though. But I like the size, arm talent and decision making of those three thus far.

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                              I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue. I would love to see one full season of him and Gordon. I think Chip Kelly's last hope in the NFL would be an attempt at his speedy offense with those two and Duke Johnson. I feel like those guys combined with our other speedy receivers would do some damage.

                              With that being said, I am also very open to drafting a QB if Bosa is taken number one. I do like a lot of what I see in Goff. That dude has a cannon and great accuracy. I only get worried with him cause he dances around a bit in the pocket, he gets happy feet. It's not a big deal, so does Peyton Manning, but it does cause some concern for me.

                              If not Goff, I think we should gamble on Cardale. He could be the next Cam Newton if you build around him. I am not even a huge OSU fan (Illini) but that kid is a massive talent, he just needs the right coaching imo.

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                              Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                              @pcollier19 said:

                              I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue.

                              The definition of potential.....he hasn't done shit yet in the NFL. Lying to the team about where you are is not a concern?? Not showing up on more than one occasion to a required team thing isn't a concern? He better hope that Jerry Jones is still in love with him because that's about his last chance in the NFL. No one will trust him because he can't be trusted.

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                              • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

                                Carson Wentz, Brandon Doughty and Blake Frohnapfel are the three I'm most interested in.

                                Still have to watch a little more tape, though. But I like the size, arm talent and decision making of those three thus far.

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                                Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                Carson Wentz, Brandon Doughty and Blake Frohnapfel are the three I'm most interested in.

                                Still have to watch a little more tape, though. But I like the size, arm talent and decision making of those three thus far.

                                I don't know anything about any of them. But I've heard good things about Wentz....I've never really heard of the last two. But I'd rather go with a 2nd or 3rd round guy and McCown than taking a QB at 2 as I just don't think any of them are good enough for the #2 overall pick. I'd rather take Bosa, especially if the reports are accurate as to how good he can be in the NFL.

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                                  I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential. His off the field antics are obviously a concern, but nothing that I feel, in the NFL anyway, is really much of an issue. I would love to see one full season of him and Gordon. I think Chip Kelly's last hope in the NFL would be an attempt at his speedy offense with those two and Duke Johnson. I feel like those guys combined with our other speedy receivers would do some damage.

                                  With that being said, I am also very open to drafting a QB if Bosa is taken number one. I do like a lot of what I see in Goff. That dude has a cannon and great accuracy. I only get worried with him cause he dances around a bit in the pocket, he gets happy feet. It's not a big deal, so does Peyton Manning, but it does cause some concern for me.

                                  If not Goff, I think we should gamble on Cardale. He could be the next Cam Newton if you build around him. I am not even a huge OSU fan (Illini) but that kid is a massive talent, he just needs the right coaching imo.

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                  @pcollier19 said:

                                  I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential.

                                  Potential is the one thing Johnny will always have...

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                                  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                    @chimpy07 said:

                                    Would you be suggesting our next 1st round qb flop? Or that we'll most likely trade down from the 2nd pick? LOL

                                    Me? Never... 😉

                                    Had I been goofing around I'm sure bb would have caught it...

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                                    C chimpy07 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    Me? Never... 😉

                                    Had I been goofing around I'm sure bb would have caught it...

                                    The tongue in cheek made me chuckle 😉

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                                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                      I notice the OP starts his evaluations based on 'swag'. I'll presume street cred is also highly factored in as well, no?

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                                      • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                        @pcollier19 said:

                                        I know I am in the minority here but I still feel that as a player, Johnny still shows a lot of potential.

                                        Potential is the one thing Johnny will always have...

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                                        C chimpy07 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Potential is the one thing Johnny will always have...

                                        Brains and the ability to put his career first though....

                                        Its as unfortunate as it is annoying, petulant asshole.

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                                        • tiamat63T tiamat63

                                          I notice the OP starts his evaluations based on 'swag'. I'll presume street cred is also highly factored in as well, no?

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          I notice the OP starts his evaluations based on 'swag'. I'll presume street cred is also highly factored in as well, no?

                                          I believe it's you multiply 'swag' by 'cred' and add 'bitches + hoes' to get the final ranking.

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