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  • StinkHoleS StinkHole

    @gftchris said:

    Can we imagine if a hundred armed muslims entered a federal building with the intention to hold up, to fight and die if necessary because they disagree with the government?

    Stuart

    That's not what muslims do idiot.

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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @stinkhole said:

    StuartThat's not what muslims do idiot.

    How do you know they won't do that in the future?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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    • gftChrisG gftChris

      Can we imagine if a hundred armed muslims entered a federal building with the intention to hold up, to fight and die if necessary because they disagree with the government?

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      @gftchris said:

      Can we imagine if a hundred armed muslims entered a federal building with the intention to hold up, to fight and die if necessary because they disagree with the government?

      Better still if 100 rednecks started beheading people!

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      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

        On HERE. On this board. I mean, it is full of us dirty leftists. So, not Cal, do you have an example from here? I mean, you said those dirty leftists do it all of the time, it should be no different here...

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        @mld-woody said:

        On HERE. On this board. I mean, it is full of us dirty leftists. So, not Cal, do you have an example from here? I mean, you said those dirty leftists do it all of the time, it should be no different here...

        This board is a very small group of people. You are going to eventually have to leave here and travel into the wide world beyond. You asked who said it and I courteously googled it for you, turning up hundreds of results which prove that your fellow leftists, (and you see indeed a leftist by all your comments) frequently say it. You're welcome.

        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

          http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html

          The Bundy dummies are back at it again. They are desperately trying to get themselves smoked by FBI snipers.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          @logicisforsquares said:

          http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html

          The Bundy dummies are back at it again. They are desperately trying to get themselves smoked by FBI snipers.

          You have to fight these battles in the courts. I hope nobody gets killed over this.

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          • W Westside Steve

            No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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            WSS

            @logicisforsquares said:

            Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

            If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

            "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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              of course

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                @westside-steve said:

                No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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                WSS

                @logicisforsquares said:

                Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

                If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

                Judging by reactions to other things, even if they don't open fire, if they don't comply 100% with the police the police are justified in shooting them. Or if the police feel threatened.

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  Btw, for those of a less serious disposition, there are some great hashtags out there for this, like #yallqaeda and #vanillaISIS.

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                  • gftChrisG gftChris

                    Btw, for those of a less serious disposition, there are some great hashtags out there for this, like #yallqaeda and #vanillaISIS.

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                    @gftchris said:

                    Btw, for those of a less serious disposition, there are some great hashtags out there for this, like #yallqaeda and #vanillaISIS.

                    Because repuclicans are the real terrorists. Until they shoot, behead or blow anyone up this is much more like occupy or blm protests than terrorism.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      I think we broke Cysko...

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                      • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                        @westside-steve said:

                        No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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                        WSS

                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

                        If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

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                        @jbluhm86 said:

                        If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

                        Yes.

                        WSS

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                          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                          Meh.

                          At least they didn't burn the building down after stealing the tv's & computers from it first.

                          Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            On a serious note, do people support their actions? Their cause?

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                              Actually, as is the case with most protests, I don't give a fuck about their cause at all and think they are attention hog pains in the ass.

                              Less annoying but just as stupid as the Occupy Wall Street jerk offs that some of you may support.

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                                Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                Reading up on the Hammonds (ranchers in question) leads be to believe they've been jerked around pretty severely by the Feds. They've conceded and gone to prison, and it seems like there are some mall ninjas and Bundy doofuses desperately seeking attention.

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                                • gftChrisG gftChris

                                  On a serious note, do people support their actions? Their cause?

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                                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  On a serious note, do people support their actions? Their cause?

                                  The cause might be good but I really don't know enough about it, regardless I don't agree with breaking the law and they should be held accountable for breaking the law. Also looters and arsonists in the Baltimore and Ferguson riots should be held accountable for breaking the law. Furthermore leaders of sanctuary cities that are breaking the law should be held accountable.

                                  One of the problems I see is the hypocrisy going on with selective enforcement of our laws. All laws should be enforced and if they are not good laws work to change them.

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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    Reason I ask is, we hear a lot about the second amendment, and what it's "really" for - an organised militia with the ability to stand up to an oppressive regime inflicting its will upon the people. I have no doubt that in the minds of the people occupying this bird sanctuary (seriously, btw?) believe that this is exactly what they're doing.

                                    With that in mind, how do you feel about what they're doing, how it relates to the law and specifically the second amendment?

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                                    • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

                                      If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jbluhm86 said:

                                      If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

                                      Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

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                                      • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                                        @jbluhm86 said:

                                        If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

                                        Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

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                                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

                                        Or holding a toy gun apparently.

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          In this country we are told driving a car is a privilege and not a right...so we bend the rules and give illegal immigrants drivers licenses for what? Breaking the law? You would think voting was a right as well but it also is a privilege and not a constitutional right. The second amendment is a constitutional right to every American citizen and that should be kept in mind with every new gun law. It is not just a privilege to have firearms we have that right and it is a constant fight to keep that right. If it were not for the second amendment I have no doubt we would have had gun confiscation like in Australia and being floated today by Hillary Clinton and Obama as a model for this country.

                                          The battle the militia is fighting is what we have court systems for and appeals processes for verdicts we don't agree with and I think they are wrong to think they can achieve by force what they want.

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