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  • On HERE. On this board. I mean, it is full of us dirty leftists. So, not Cal, do you have an example from here? I mean, you said those dirty leftists do it all of the time, it should be no different here...

    @mld-woody said:

    On HERE. On this board. I mean, it is full of us dirty leftists. So, not Cal, do you have an example from here? I mean, you said those dirty leftists do it all of the time, it should be no different here...

    This board is a very small group of people. You are going to eventually have to leave here and travel into the wide world beyond. You asked who said it and I courteously googled it for you, turning up hundreds of results which prove that your fellow leftists, (and you see indeed a leftist by all your comments) frequently say it. You're welcome.

  • http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html

    The Bundy dummies are back at it again. They are desperately trying to get themselves smoked by FBI snipers.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html

    The Bundy dummies are back at it again. They are desperately trying to get themselves smoked by FBI snipers.

    You have to fight these battles in the courts. I hope nobody gets killed over this.

  • No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

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    WSS

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

  • of course

  • @westside-steve said:

    No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

    πŸ™‚

    WSS

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    Judging by reactions to other things, even if they don't open fire, if they don't comply 100% with the police the police are justified in shooting them. Or if the police feel threatened.

  • Btw, for those of a less serious disposition, there are some great hashtags out there for this, like #yallqaeda and #vanillaISIS.

  • Btw, for those of a less serious disposition, there are some great hashtags out there for this, like #yallqaeda and #vanillaISIS.

    @gftchris said:

    Btw, for those of a less serious disposition, there are some great hashtags out there for this, like #yallqaeda and #vanillaISIS.

    Because repuclicans are the real terrorists. Until they shoot, behead or blow anyone up this is much more like occupy or blm protests than terrorism.

  • I think we broke Cysko...

  • @westside-steve said:

    No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

    πŸ™‚

    WSS

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    Yes.

    WSS

  • Meh.

    At least they didn't burn the building down after stealing the tv's & computers from it first.

  • On a serious note, do people support their actions? Their cause?

  • Actually, as is the case with most protests, I don't give a fuck about their cause at all and think they are attention hog pains in the ass.

    Less annoying but just as stupid as the Occupy Wall Street jerk offs that some of you may support.

    WSS

  • Reading up on the Hammonds (ranchers in question) leads be to believe they've been jerked around pretty severely by the Feds. They've conceded and gone to prison, and it seems like there are some mall ninjas and Bundy doofuses desperately seeking attention.

  • On a serious note, do people support their actions? Their cause?

    @gftchris said:

    On a serious note, do people support their actions? Their cause?

    The cause might be good but I really don't know enough about it, regardless I don't agree with breaking the law and they should be held accountable for breaking the law. Also looters and arsonists in the Baltimore and Ferguson riots should be held accountable for breaking the law. Furthermore leaders of sanctuary cities that are breaking the law should be held accountable.

    One of the problems I see is the hypocrisy going on with selective enforcement of our laws. All laws should be enforced and if they are not good laws work to change them.

  • Reason I ask is, we hear a lot about the second amendment, and what it's "really" for - an organised militia with the ability to stand up to an oppressive regime inflicting its will upon the people. I have no doubt that in the minds of the people occupying this bird sanctuary (seriously, btw?) believe that this is exactly what they're doing.

    With that in mind, how do you feel about what they're doing, how it relates to the law and specifically the second amendment?

  • @westside-steve said:

    No kidding. Like the old saying only Nixon could go to China, only Democrat Justice Department's can massacre civilians!

    πŸ™‚

    WSS

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Haha I don't see this ending in Waco fashion. Janet isn't on the job.

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    If this "militia" in Oregon does fire upon state or federal officials sent in to remove them peacefully, would that then make it acceptable the government to respond likewise?

    Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

    Or holding a toy gun apparently.

  • In this country we are told driving a car is a privilege and not a right...so we bend the rules and give illegal immigrants drivers licenses for what? Breaking the law? You would think voting was a right as well but it also is a privilege and not a constitutional right. The second amendment is a constitutional right to every American citizen and that should be kept in mind with every new gun law. It is not just a privilege to have firearms we have that right and it is a constant fight to keep that right. If it were not for the second amendment I have no doubt we would have had gun confiscation like in Australia and being floated today by Hillary Clinton and Obama as a model for this country.

    The battle the militia is fighting is what we have court systems for and appeals processes for verdicts we don't agree with and I think they are wrong to think they can achieve by force what they want.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Well yes, I would say shooting at people is grounds for them to shoot back.

    Or holding a toy gun apparently.

    @gftchris said:

    Or holding a toy gun apparently.

    A realistic looking toy gun that is being carried by someone pointing it at strangers. But lets all act like it was a good boy who was carrying a neon orange squirt gun.

  • In this country we are told driving a car is a privilege and not a right...so we bend the rules and give illegal immigrants drivers licenses for what? Breaking the law? You would think voting was a right as well but it also is a privilege and not a constitutional right. The second amendment is a constitutional right to every American citizen and that should be kept in mind with every new gun law. It is not just a privilege to have firearms we have that right and it is a constant fight to keep that right. If it were not for the second amendment I have no doubt we would have had gun confiscation like in Australia and being floated today by Hillary Clinton and Obama as a model for this country.

    The battle the militia is fighting is what we have court systems for and appeals processes for verdicts we don't agree with and I think they are wrong to think they can achieve by force what they want.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The battle the militia is fighting is what we have court systems for and appeals processes for verdicts we don't agree with and I think they are wrong to think they can achieve by force what they want.

    This.