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  • @the-gipper said:

    I don't buy that whatever experience you have in the business world can in any way be related to running a professional football team....unless you run an NBA/MLB/NHL team.

    Even if you were the AD at a major university it would not be the same.

    So....all you dipshits that say you know better than Haslam or that you KNOW that the way he has decided to organize is doomed to failure....Shut the fuck up.

    You know nothing John Snow.

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

    @d-bone said:

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

    Fuck you.

  • lol

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

    @d-bone said:

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

    Exactly...

  • Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.

    The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!

    1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!

    2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback

    3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE improvement

    Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.

  • Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.

    The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!

    1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!

    2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback

    3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE improvement

    Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.

    @opal312 said:

    Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.

    The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!

    1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!

    good luck with that.

    2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback

    not in pettine's case, so why do you think someone new will get that opportunity?

    3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE (chinese much?) improvement

    well pettine won 7 in his first year. this year was a harder schedule. next year will be softer. so if the new guy wins 7 next year and only wins 3 the next, fire him too?

    Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.

    let me bookmark this as i know you'll say the same bullshit in a year (2 if the guy is decent).

    so basically the only positives are the new staff has 2 first round picks? lol.

  • @opal312 said:

    Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.

    The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!

    1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!

    good luck with that.

    2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback

    not in pettine's case, so why do you think someone new will get that opportunity?

    3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE (chinese much?) improvement

    well pettine won 7 in his first year. this year was a harder schedule. next year will be softer. so if the new guy wins 7 next year and only wins 3 the next, fire him too?

    Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.

    let me bookmark this as i know you'll say the same bullshit in a year (2 if the guy is decent).

    so basically the only positives are the new staff has 2 first round picks? lol.

    @miktoxic said:

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    so basically the only positives are the new staff has 2 first round picks? lol.

    Well..that's never happened before....

  • Very Narrow minded? Moi?

    In an org that is as flat as the Browns org is... where else is there to look? Make no mistake the two top players are in place.

    I gave Jimmah every benefit of the doubt when he reorganized, hire plausible people and reinforced their roles in the retreat. I believed that a business as successful as he is had enough knowledge of organizational dynamics for his chosen organization to function...

    ... but he did not put in the work to ensure that it did.

    And now, as I see it, he has tinkered with the organization just enough to set it, and Sashimi, up to fail.

    I hope I am wrong... but 30 years of business experience with the last third in a related, very applicable field, don't say that I am...

    @tour2ma said:

    Very Narrow minded? Moi?

    In an org that is as flat as the Browns org is... where else is there to look? Make no mistake the two top players are in place.

    I gave Jimmah every benefit of the doubt when he reorganized, hire plausible people and reinforced their roles in the retreat. I believed that a business as successful as he is had enough knowledge of organizational dynamics for his chosen organization to function...

    ... but he did not put in the work to ensure that it did.

    And now, as I see it, he has tinkered with the organization just enough to set it, and Sashimi, up to fail.

    I hope I am wrong... but 30 years of business experience with the last third in a related, very applicable field, don't say that I am...

    What's your field?

  • @the-gipper said:

    So....all you dipshits that say you know better than Haslam or that you KNOW that the way he has decided to organize is doomed to failure....Shut the fuck up.

    You know nothing John Snow.

    wow, you ARE a dick.

    how many trivia threads will this garner you?

    @miktoxic said:

    wow, you ARE a dick.

    how many trivia threads will this garner you?

    No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.

    Also....as I have pointed out elsewhere.....the Browns are simply following the Patriots model

    So, now....tell me why that model is doomed to failure here.....because it sure seems like its working there.

    If you say: Tom Brady....I will say fine......all systems, including this one are dependent on a quality QB.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I don't buy that whatever experience you have in the business world can in any way be related to running a professional football team....unless you run an NBA/MLB/NHL team.

    Even if you were the AD at a major university it would not be the same.

    So....all you dipshits that say you know better than Haslam or that you KNOW that the way he has decided to organize is doomed to failure....Shut the fuck up.

    You know nothing John Snow.

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    You are foolish to only rarely agree with me. While I am not always right.....I have a good batting average.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

    @d-bone said:

    Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.

    Maybe.....but you know what they say:

    It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness.

    Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/darkness.html#jU7sW9vUKaj5fVd6.99

  • "I'm too Drunk to taste this chicken" Colonel Sanders

  • "I'm too Drunk to taste this chicken" Colonel Sanders

    @cdl15 said:

    "I'm too Drunk to taste this chicken" Colonel Sanders

    It is now 12:30. Lunch time. You're making me hungry.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Very Narrow minded? Moi?

    In an org that is as flat as the Browns org is... where else is there to look? Make no mistake the two top players are in place.

    I gave Jimmah every benefit of the doubt when he reorganized, hire plausible people and reinforced their roles in the retreat. I believed that a business as successful as he is had enough knowledge of organizational dynamics for his chosen organization to function...

    ... but he did not put in the work to ensure that it did.

    And now, as I see it, he has tinkered with the organization just enough to set it, and Sashimi, up to fail.

    I hope I am wrong... but 30 years of business experience with the last third in a related, very applicable field, don't say that I am...

    What's your field?

    @wargograw said:

    What's your field?

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    @the-gipper said:

    No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.

    Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?

    What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?

  • @wargograw said:

    What's your field?

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    @the-gipper said:

    No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.

    Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?

    What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?

    @tour2ma said:

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?

    But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.

    What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?

    Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.

    You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

  • @tour2ma said:

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?

    But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.

    What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?

    Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.

    You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

    @the-gipper said:

    Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

    HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life...... 😵

  • @the-gipper said:

    Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

    HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life...... 😵

    @mudfly said:

    HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life...... 😵

    Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?

    eyes_people_faces_face_person_cartoon_ba

    Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.

    So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.

  • @mudfly said:

    HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life...... 😵

    Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?

    eyes_people_faces_face_person_cartoon_ba

    Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.

    So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.

    @the-gipper said:

    Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?

    eyes_people_faces_face_person_cartoon_ba

    Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.

    So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.

    Never said they couldnt handle it......where do you see that?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?

    But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.

    What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?

    Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.

    You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

    @the-gipper said:

    But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.

    Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.

    You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

    Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.

    Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?

  • @wargograw said:

    What's your field?

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    @the-gipper said:

    No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.

    Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?

    What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?

    @tour2ma said:

    Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...

    Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.

    How do I do that? I've sent and received PMs before, so not sure why it would be off.