The browns are the most attractive place for a HC 2016
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Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.
The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!
1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!
2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback
3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE improvement
Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.
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Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.
The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!
1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!
2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback
3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE improvement
Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.
Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.
The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!
1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!
good luck with that.
2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback
not in pettine's case, so why do you think someone new will get that opportunity?
3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE (chinese much?) improvement
well pettine won 7 in his first year. this year was a harder schedule. next year will be softer. so if the new guy wins 7 next year and only wins 3 the next, fire him too?
Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.
let me bookmark this as i know you'll say the same bullshit in a year (2 if the guy is decent).
so basically the only positives are the new staff has 2 first round picks? lol.
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Keep in mind there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. All six vacancies have positives and negatives. San Francisco and New York will be more attractive for several reasons. One of which is decades of winning verses decades of losing. But anyone taking those jobs will have more pressure to win right away. The Giants are the most attractive from a player personnel perspective. They have their franchise quarterback and most of their roster already in place. The same can be said for Miami, Philly, and Tennessee.
The Browns are a mess but there are positives galore!
1) Pick 2 and pick 32 are essentially another year with two picks in the first round. Thank You Tom Brady!
good luck with that.
2) the Head Coach gets to chose his quarterback
not in pettine's case, so why do you think someone new will get that opportunity?
3) Winning 6 games would be a YUGE (chinese much?) improvement
well pettine won 7 in his first year. this year was a harder schedule. next year will be softer. so if the new guy wins 7 next year and only wins 3 the next, fire him too?
Depending on how you look at it, there are many positives for the right guy. It's a challenge but certainly do-able.
let me bookmark this as i know you'll say the same bullshit in a year (2 if the guy is decent).
so basically the only positives are the new staff has 2 first round picks? lol.
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Very Narrow minded? Moi?
In an org that is as flat as the Browns org is... where else is there to look? Make no mistake the two top players are in place.
I gave Jimmah every benefit of the doubt when he reorganized, hire plausible people and reinforced their roles in the retreat. I believed that a business as successful as he is had enough knowledge of organizational dynamics for his chosen organization to function...
... but he did not put in the work to ensure that it did.
And now, as I see it, he has tinkered with the organization just enough to set it, and Sashimi, up to fail.
I hope I am wrong... but 30 years of business experience with the last third in a related, very applicable field, don't say that I am...
Very Narrow minded? Moi?
In an org that is as flat as the Browns org is... where else is there to look? Make no mistake the two top players are in place.
I gave Jimmah every benefit of the doubt when he reorganized, hire plausible people and reinforced their roles in the retreat. I believed that a business as successful as he is had enough knowledge of organizational dynamics for his chosen organization to function...
... but he did not put in the work to ensure that it did.
And now, as I see it, he has tinkered with the organization just enough to set it, and Sashimi, up to fail.
I hope I am wrong... but 30 years of business experience with the last third in a related, very applicable field, don't say that I am...
What's your field?
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So....all you dipshits that say you know better than Haslam or that you KNOW that the way he has decided to organize is doomed to failure....Shut the fuck up.
You know nothing John Snow.
wow, you ARE a dick.
how many trivia threads will this garner you?
wow, you ARE a dick.
how many trivia threads will this garner you?
No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.
Also....as I have pointed out elsewhere.....the Browns are simply following the Patriots model
So, now....tell me why that model is doomed to failure here.....because it sure seems like its working there.
If you say: Tom Brady....I will say fine......all systems, including this one are dependent on a quality QB.
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I don't buy that whatever experience you have in the business world can in any way be related to running a professional football team....unless you run an NBA/MLB/NHL team.
Even if you were the AD at a major university it would not be the same.
So....all you dipshits that say you know better than Haslam or that you KNOW that the way he has decided to organize is doomed to failure....Shut the fuck up.
You know nothing John Snow.
Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.
Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.
You are foolish to only rarely agree with me. While I am not always right.....I have a good batting average.
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Fucking A Gip. I rarely agree with you, but you hit the nail on the head brother.
Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.
Uh oh Gip, you know you done screwed up when this guy ^ likes your post.
Maybe.....but you know what they say:
It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/darkness.html#jU7sW9vUKaj5fVd6.99
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Very Narrow minded? Moi?
In an org that is as flat as the Browns org is... where else is there to look? Make no mistake the two top players are in place.
I gave Jimmah every benefit of the doubt when he reorganized, hire plausible people and reinforced their roles in the retreat. I believed that a business as successful as he is had enough knowledge of organizational dynamics for his chosen organization to function...
... but he did not put in the work to ensure that it did.
And now, as I see it, he has tinkered with the organization just enough to set it, and Sashimi, up to fail.
I hope I am wrong... but 30 years of business experience with the last third in a related, very applicable field, don't say that I am...
What's your field?
What's your field?
Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What's your field?
Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
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Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
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Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?
Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.
So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.
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HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?
Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.
So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.
Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?
Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.
So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.
Never said they couldnt handle it......where do you see that?
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Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What's your field?
Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
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But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
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Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
lol... whatever, Gip...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
lol... whatever, Gip...
lol... whatever, Gip...
Obviously you can bring questions up and debate the whole concept of what they are doing but for anyone to repeat the mantra:
This won't work. I know it
This won't work. I know it.
This won't work. I know it.
They are just being an asshat.
I repeat:
They are just being an asshat.
I repeat:
They are just being an asshat.
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