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  • I have no issue with bringing in analytics... it's the reporting relationship that is troubling.

    I have learned Paul DePodesta leaving #Mets to run the NFL Cleveland Browns as executive VP, answerable only to team owner/pres. β€” Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) January 5, 2016

    If this turns out to be true, then I'll wait for Gip to polish this org chart turd...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Seems like someone is wooing Chip if you ask me. I gathered that is what he was doing in Philly.

    β€œIt is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Despite my drunken rant sunday night before I had done any research on "Sashi" ...

    So far I am feeling better every day.

    I like what I have read about Brown, and I think this guy here is smart hire.

    Another harvard guy ... JImmy is going to get as many smart guys he can get and hand it over to them.

    May or may not work, but S. Brown seems to have respect around the league, so it is already feeling like the sun is peeking out as the Ray Farmer dark clouds roll away.

    Zombo

  • My Engineering dad once told me that when hand held calculators came out, he dumped his slide rule and made the younger engineers teach him all the intricacies of what they could do and then applied it to his job. When the first PC's came out he dumped his hand held calculator and bought himself an Apple and again (in his early 60's) had his newest, youngest engineers teach him how they worked and what they could do. He retired after a very successful career with Mobil Oil.

    Anything new could not hurt to try on an organization that has operated in chaos so many years. I like it.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    The thing about football versus baseball is that there isn't nearly as many of these "advanced metrics"

    The patriots may be an example of a team that uses some of these advanced metrics to select their players - but they also have Tom Brady.

    Maybe they'll make a moneyball 2 in 10 years about the Browns after we win 5 super bowls and revolutionize the game....one can dream.

    @bbedward said:

    The thing about football versus baseball is that there isn't nearly as many of these "advanced metrics"

    The patriots may be an example of a team that uses some of these advanced metrics to select their players - but they also have Tom Brady.

    Maybe they'll make a moneyball 2 in 10 years about the Browns after we win 5 super bowls and revolutionize the game....one can dream.

    I think this is a cool move...and it will remain to be seen if it is successful.

    But...if the Pats are a team that has been using it......it may be a sign pointing to Patricia as our man at HC.

    Fair to say?

    bbedwardB 1 Reply
  • htownbrownH htownbrown

    Seems like someone is wooing Chip if you ask me. I gathered that is what he was doing in Philly.

    @htownbrown said:

    Seems like someone is wooing Chip if you ask me. I gathered that is what he was doing in Philly.

    No....I see this really a more of a move to Patricia. Kelly can blow me.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @bbedward said:

    The thing about football versus baseball is that there isn't nearly as many of these "advanced metrics"

    The patriots may be an example of a team that uses some of these advanced metrics to select their players - but they also have Tom Brady.

    Maybe they'll make a moneyball 2 in 10 years about the Browns after we win 5 super bowls and revolutionize the game....one can dream.

    I think this is a cool move...and it will remain to be seen if it is successful.

    But...if the Pats are a team that has been using it......it may be a sign pointing to Patricia as our man at HC.

    Fair to say?

    @the-gipper said:

    I think this is a cool move...and it will remain to be seen if it is successful.

    But...if the Pats are a team that has been using it......it may be a sign pointing to Patricia as our man at HC.

    Fair to say?

    Sasha is a really smart guy...DePodesta is a really smart guy...

    I like the moves, I just think they're interesting.

    Of all the names I've heard I'm rooting for Patricia...who is also a really smart guy.

    Things actually sound pretty good to me right now, but all of that may change by week 2 of course.

  • Now that we are getting in all of these analytics gents, I am waiting to see when they bring in football folks.

    The GipperT miktoxicM 2 Replies

  • "Worked for Billy Bean", said Jimmy.

    What happens when he shows up and he isn't Jonah Hill and Jimmy fires him?

    F 1 Reply
  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Now that we are getting in all of these analytics gents, I am waiting to see when they bring in football folks.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Now that we are getting in all of these analytics gents, I am waiting to see when they bring in football folks.

    The coach......even if it is former aeronautical engineer (right?) Patricia, will be a football guy.

    Are we now discounting that Eliot Wolf will want to come here as the DOPP? Will he want to be "The Man"...and since apparently Sashi Brown will be the man.....do you think he would opt out of consideration?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Now that we are getting in all of these analytics gents, I am waiting to see when they bring in football folks.

    The coach......even if it is former aeronautical engineer (right?) Patricia, will be a football guy.

    Are we now discounting that Eliot Wolf will want to come here as the DOPP? Will he want to be "The Man"...and since apparently Sashi Brown will be the man.....do you think he would opt out of consideration?

    @the-gipper said:

    The coach......even if it is former aeronautical engineer (right?) Patricia, will be a football guy.

    Are we now discounting that Eliot Wolf will want to come here as the DOPP? Will he want to be "The Man"...and since apparently Sashi Brown will be the man.....do you think he would opt out of consideration?

    I don't think it will help having multiple layers of yes men to get through before a GM can make decisions. You will be hard pressed to find someone who wants to join that type of situation.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Patricia's Alma mater: Renssalaer Poly ranked #126 in Forbes college ranking (for what that's worth)

    http://www.forbes.com/colleges/rensselaer-polytechnic-institute/

    (both my kids went to higher rated schools....but you would certainly expect that, no?)

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @the-gipper said:

    The coach......even if it is former aeronautical engineer (right?) Patricia, will be a football guy.

    Are we now discounting that Eliot Wolf will want to come here as the DOPP? Will he want to be "The Man"...and since apparently Sashi Brown will be the man.....do you think he would opt out of consideration?

    I don't think it will help having multiple layers of yes men to get through before a GM can make decisions. You will be hard pressed to find someone who wants to join that type of situation.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I don't think it will help having multiple layers of yes men to get through before a GM can make decisions. You will be hard pressed to find someone who wants to join that type of situation.

    Unless they all view it as like one of these Silicon Valley, high tech firms......where it is all about the collaberation.

    So far the Browns are getting some of the smartest cats in the room.....at least they think they are. Those cats like to purr with other like minded cats.

    So, you still never know.

    It took three witches to boil the cauldron at the beginning of MacBeth. You never know what three great minds might brew up.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    This is a guy primarily known for baseball analytics.

    My thoughts on it is Jimmy's basically trying to build a good team without spending lots of money on an analytical approach instead of the usual one

    @bbedward said:

    This is a guy primarily known for baseball analytics.

    My thoughts on it is Jimmy's basically trying to build a good team without spending lots of money on an analytical approach instead of the usual one

    I see it as trying to spend the right amount of money on the right players. They have a very good cap situation and are going to be doing some spending, so this makes sense.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Now that we are getting in all of these analytics gents, I am waiting to see when they bring in football folks.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Now that we are getting in all of these analytics gents, I am waiting to see when they bring in football folks.

    true dat.

    for all the knowledge these nerds might have it'd still help if they have some knowledge of what actually goes on on the field. you could be the best football coach in the world but if you can't get the higher ups to get you what you need to succeed on the field, all the number crunching and twisting means jack shit.

  • It's like when we commissioned a big analysis that determined Teddy Twatwater was the most likely QB to succeed in the NFL - then completely ignored it and took Manziel.

    Maybe we won't ignore that type of stuff anymore.

  • Jimmy is about as corporate as it gets......and Id say he's trying to build what most would call a consensus decision making team...

    Kinda trendy, if you ask me .....maybe it'll work.....and maybe not.....

    It's good in that you wont have any knee jerk decisions and, if implemented correctly, wont leave any opinions on the floor....

    BUT.....just remember.....compromise & agreement in everything breeds mediocrity.....And in consensus groups, vanilla often ends up being the only flavor....

    All depends on those who are working the system.....but Im gonna be skeptical that it will apply well to choosing football players....

    Ill add that if Jimmy is in any way a part of the group...being owner and the boss.... he will pollute the integrity of the system and prevent true consensus from occurring.....(can he let them do their thing....alone????)

  • I hope we can get David Price

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
    The GipperT 1 Reply
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  • hx214H hx214

    "Worked for Billy Bean", said Jimmy.

    What happens when he shows up and he isn't Jonah Hill and Jimmy fires him?

    @hx214 said:

    "Worked for Billy Bean", said Jimmy.

    What happens when he shows up and he isn't Jonah Hill and Jimmy fires him?

    Oakland A's haven't won squat under Billy Bean.

    The GipperT Tour2maT 2 Replies

  • This could not be good for Dwayne Bowe.

    Zombo

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