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    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    Also incredibly flawed

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      Logistically impossible

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      @the-cysko-kid said:

      Logistically impossible

      No doubt that's true today. Imagine 300 years ago without the electoral college?

      Communications in time will make it possible for every human being on earth earth to vote.

      Soon enough most people will speak a version of the same language.

      I think it's a fucked up idea but...

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        Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        @the-cysko-kid said:

        Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

        That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

          That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

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          Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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          @gftchris said:

          That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

          So how would you fellas feel if a muslim was the supreme leader or whatever title and he wanted to implement sharia law throughout the world. I've been out and never want to see a new world order myself. I just see a mess of corruption myself.
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            Until islam evolves from a medieval mentality it would be incompatible with any sort of global leadership.

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              What I'm saying is that I trust there would be enough self interest from the rest of the world to say "yeah no we're not going to elect a global theocrat"

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                I'm thinking that there will be a lot of very serious changes to the planet and humanity before a one world government is feasible.

                (imagine trying to tell the citizens in the thirteen hundreds how things would be today.)

                But I don't think that would be impossible. Adolf Hitler won the election in Germany.

                The world could easily become a dystopia. Remember boys history did not begin 100 years ago.

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                  @gftchris said:

                  That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

                  So how would you fellas feel if a muslim was the supreme leader or whatever title and he wanted to implement sharia law throughout the world. I've been out and never want to see a new world order myself. I just see a mess of corruption myself.
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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @erie-dawg said:

                  So how would you fellas feel if a muslim was the supreme leader or whatever title and he wanted to implement sharia law throughout the world. I've been out and never want to see a new world order myself. I just see a mess of corruption myself.

                  I suspect by the time the world is capable of putting the differences aside to appoint a world leader, religion will have dwindled to almost non-existence and atheism will be an unspoken requirement for office, as christianity is now in the US.

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                    @erie-dawg said:

                    So how would you fellas feel if a muslim was the supreme leader or whatever title and he wanted to implement sharia law throughout the world. I've been out and never want to see a new world order myself. I just see a mess of corruption myself.

                    I suspect by the time the world is capable of putting the differences aside to appoint a world leader, religion will have dwindled to almost non-existence and atheism will be an unspoken requirement for office, as christianity is now in the US.

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                    @gftchris said:

                    I suspect by the time the world is capable of putting the differences aside to appoint a world leader, religion will have dwindled to almost non-existence and atheism will be an unspoken requirement for office, as christianity is now in the US.

                    I hope athiest is never a requirement for anything as I see athiesm as sort of a religion unto itself. Most self identified athiests seem to be insulting, loud mouthed,nihilistic jackholes that go out of their way to push their beliefs on others and ridicule people of faith. (Hint: I'm not what you would call a person of faith) Rather I'd just as soon see religion as not a prominent issue.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      Beyond Thunderdome

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                        @erie-dawg said:

                        So how would you fellas feel if a muslim was the supreme leader or whatever title and he wanted to implement sharia law throughout the world. I've been out and never want to see a new world order myself. I just see a mess of corruption myself.

                        I suspect by the time the world is capable of putting the differences aside to appoint a world leader, religion will have dwindled to almost non-existence and atheism will be an unspoken requirement for office, as christianity is now in the US.

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @gftchris said:

                        I suspect by the time the world is capable of putting the differences aside to appoint a world leader, religion will have dwindled to almost non-existence and atheism will be an unspoken requirement for office, as christianity is now in the US.

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                          @gftchris said:

                          I suspect by the time the world is capable of putting the differences aside to appoint a world leader, religion will have dwindled to almost non-existence and atheism will be an unspoken requirement for office, as christianity is now in the US.

                          I hope athiest is never a requirement for anything as I see athiesm as sort of a religion unto itself. Most self identified athiests seem to be insulting, loud mouthed,nihilistic jackholes that go out of their way to push their beliefs on others and ridicule people of faith. (Hint: I'm not what you would call a person of faith) Rather I'd just as soon see religion as not a prominent issue.

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                          I hope athiest is never a requirement for anything as I see athiesm as sort of a religion unto itself. Most self identified athiests seem to be insulting, loud mouthed,nihilistic jackholes that go out of their way to push their beliefs on others and ridicule people of faith. (Hint: I'm not what you would call a person of faith) Rather I'd just as soon see religion as not a prominent issue.

                          It's more a point of being able to trust someone to make rational decisions about things in direct contradiction to their religion. For example, take any religious person who believes their god made the universe and put the earth at the centre (mataphorical, not physical), and that we must exclusively be the only life in the universe because why would god have put life elsewhere? I wouldn't be too happy appointing that person leader of the world in charge of exploring space and dealing with anything we find there.

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                            @the-cysko-kid said:

                            I hope athiest is never a requirement for anything as I see athiesm as sort of a religion unto itself. Most self identified athiests seem to be insulting, loud mouthed,nihilistic jackholes that go out of their way to push their beliefs on others and ridicule people of faith. (Hint: I'm not what you would call a person of faith) Rather I'd just as soon see religion as not a prominent issue.

                            It's more a point of being able to trust someone to make rational decisions about things in direct contradiction to their religion. For example, take any religious person who believes their god made the universe and put the earth at the centre (mataphorical, not physical), and that we must exclusively be the only life in the universe because why would god have put life elsewhere? I wouldn't be too happy appointing that person leader of the world in charge of exploring space and dealing with anything we find there.

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                            @gftchris said:

                            It's more a point of being able to trust someone to make rational decisions about things in direct contradiction to their religion. For example, take any religious person who believes their god made the universe and put the earth at the centre (mataphorical, not physical), and that we must exclusively be the only life in the universe because why would god have put life elsewhere? I wouldn't be too happy appointing that person leader of the world in charge of exploring space and dealing with anything we find there.

                            You know, like in Soylent Green.

                            Brave new world, 1984 etc

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              And what has Obama done with our space program? Last I heard we were forced to hitch a ride with the Russians into space because Obama has decimated our space program.

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                                @gftchris said:

                                It's more a point of being able to trust someone to make rational decisions about things in direct contradiction to their religion. For example, take any religious person who believes their god made the universe and put the earth at the centre (mataphorical, not physical), and that we must exclusively be the only life in the universe because why would god have put life elsewhere? I wouldn't be too happy appointing that person leader of the world in charge of exploring space and dealing with anything we find there.

                                You know, like in Soylent Green.

                                Brave new world, 1984 etc

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                You know, like in Soylent Green.

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                                Never watched it, but I don't doubt there are plenty of dystopian movies that involve eradication of religion, just as there are plenty of instances of dystopias fuelled by religion.. I know you have this whole contrarian thing going, but don't you ever get tired of not really making a point of your own?

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                                  It will be essential for space exploration. As it is now though I don't think anyone from any major country could accept foreigners bossing then around.

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                                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                                  It will be essential for space exploration. As it is now though I don't think anyone from any major country could accept foreigners bossing then around.

                                  I think space exploration, just like auto and aviation industries, is going to be pioneered by private industry, not governments.

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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    It will be essential for space exploration. As it is now though I don't think anyone from any major country could accept foreigners bossing then around.

                                    I think space exploration, just like auto and aviation industries, is going to be pioneered by private industry, not governments.

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                                    @osiris said:

                                    I think space exploration, just like auto and aviation industries, is going to be pioneered by private industry, not governments.

                                    You're probably right

                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      It will be essential for space exploration. As it is now though I don't think anyone from any major country could accept foreigners bossing then around.

                                      I think space exploration, just like auto and aviation industries, is going to be pioneered by private industry, not governments.

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                                      @osiris said:

                                      I think space exploration, just like auto and aviation industries, is going to be pioneered by private industry, not governments.

                                      I hope that doesn't mean private sector mining of asteroids, raping the rest of the universe as they have the earth, but I suspect that's going to be very much the reality. The groundwork is already in place.

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        You know, like in Soylent Green.

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                                        Never watched it, but I don't doubt there are plenty of dystopian movies that involve eradication of religion, just as there are plenty of instances of dystopias fuelled by religion.. I know you have this whole contrarian thing going, but don't you ever get tired of not really making a point of your own?

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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        Never watched it, but I don't doubt there are plenty of dystopian movies that involve eradication of religion, just as there are plenty of instances of dystopias fuelled by religion.. I know you have this whole contrarian thing going, but don't you ever get tired of not really making a point of your own?

                                        No often we use examples to make our point. Is it tiresome to take something you saw on the Browns board and make your point here? 🙂

                                        But I might mention that communism strives for atheism.

                                        And without religion it would be much easier, as a ruler, to decide to for instance, euthanize starving people for the good of society. Right?

                                        (of course atheists often enjoy pretending that there is a universal right and wrong that they make up)

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                                          @osiris said:

                                          I think space exploration, just like auto and aviation industries, is going to be pioneered by private industry, not governments.

                                          I hope that doesn't mean private sector mining of asteroids, raping the rest of the universe as they have the earth, but I suspect that's going to be very much the reality. The groundwork is already in place.

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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          I hope that doesn't mean private sector mining of asteroids, raping the rest of the universe as they have the earth, but I suspect that's going to be very much the reality. The groundwork is already in place.

                                          Who cares about asteroids? Are they going to have climate change?

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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