Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.
I would love to see him end up in Houston, just to see Brian Hoyer's reaction.
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Don't think so with Goff. I think he's at the level where he'd be effective from day 1 - and using the #2 on him probably makes it more likely. New coach would probably wanna accelerate his development as fast as possible, since he only has 1-2 years to start winning

Watching Goff the things that impress me are his pocket awareness and touch on passes. It seems like he almost glides away from rushers - certainly not shedding tacklers like Big Ben. And it seems like he puts the right touch on every throw, not missing the easy ones to the RB in space for example, but still finding the receiver coming across the middle with mustard.
Watching Goff the things that impress me are his pocket awareness and touch on passes. It seems like he almost glides away from rushers - certainly not shedding tacklers like Big Ben. And it seems like he puts the right touch on every throw, not missing the easy ones to the RB in space for example, but still finding the receiver coming across the middle with mustard.
Yep...there's very little to not like. Operating from the pocket just looks so natural to him, with eyes always downfield and scanning, he physically always moves his body when scanning similar to how an Aaron Rodgers does. And he's deadly accurate short/medium/deep range, and tends to make the right reads. Most of the interceptions seem like they just come from trying to force in too tight a window (too much confidence) or tipped pass.
He has a set of qualities that most QBs just can't learn and have to either overcome in other ways, become a backup, or retire early.
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0% chance of that happening. .....he Texans fired a QB that started for them this year because he was late multiple times.
Right....took them very little time to tell Mallet to go f&*k himself....
Browns could've learned a little from that cut.....and so ironic they are winning with the guys we dumped, while we lose with the guy we refuse to dump....
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Something weird about this Vegas thing with Manziel. Why has no photo's or vidios showed up ? All the people in the casino and at the blackjack table din't take a picture ? And no pictures at the nightclub ? Your gonna tell me T,M,Z AND bUSTED COVERAGE CAN'T COME UP WITH A PICTURE OR A VIDEO ? Will Burge of espn who broke this story i quote " we will post a ptcture proving this is real " Well were still waiting. Why has no ne at the airport or on the plane come forth ? I'm not saying this didn't happeh but alot of times news reporters take these stories and run with it without the facts.
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0% chance of that happening. .....he Texans fired a QB that started for them this year because he was late multiple times.
Right....took them very little time to tell Mallet to go f&*k himself....
Browns could've learned a little from that cut.....and so ironic they are winning with the guys we dumped, while we lose with the guy we refuse to dump....
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He just beat the Pittsburgh Steelers didn't he?
WSS
So?....He won a game....who cares....?...he's a jerk....just like your boy Johnny

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He just beat the Pittsburgh Steelers didn't he?
WSS
So?....He won a game....who cares....?...he's a jerk....just like your boy Johnny

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Hack this loser. ASAP!
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I'm disappointed that despite such a bad year we don't even get to own the #1 pick. We could have sold it off for a fortune. I guess #2 and #32 won't be too bad either. Gotta get the right guys. I'll start to scout soon.
Remember:
#1 WR- Josh Gordon
Ifo Ekpre-Olomu
Terrel Pryor
Travis Benjamin
Joe Haden
Gary Barnidge
We'll have a good nucleus, just gotta add a few touches here and there.
I hope we get Gruden. He should be on the phone with Haslam tonight. That Monday Night game a couple weeks back, he seemed all about it. Let's see if Gruden chickens out or will step up and be the man.
I would be surprised if Gruden, even if he would have considered the job before, would want to take orders on players from Uniblab.
We should contact George Jetson.
WSS
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I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.
The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.
If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016
I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.
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LOL! To those who just want to hack & cut, move to Cut & Shoot Texas (Home of Roy Harris, once beaten in the 50's by reigning heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson in the 13 round).
You have to be unemotional when it comes to a business decision and JM's future most definitely is a business decision for the Browns. What is the cost of cutting if he is picked up by another team vs. what is the cost of trading? Does the new coach want to retain him? The new analytics guys can work with the new coach and new GM to figure out exactly what to do about Billy. Hopefully this time Jimmy stays completely out of the decision making on ALL players, including JM.
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I think there's a huge chance JM Aka "Billy" ends up hosting a TV show like Lipsync rap battles on Spike in the next 3 years. Or maybe he could join college game day and give reports on the best party spots at whatever university they're at.
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"Why'd you have to tell her I was a marine biologist? You know I always wanted to pretend to be an architect!"
My favorite "George" line of all time also from that same episode.

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Pink font Tour!!
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Thanks AG!
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or he could wreck the fucking league. no one can predict the future.
unlike [scrubs] like Frye, Anderson, Quinn, Weeden...even McCown whom i really like, Johnny Manziel is a household name. his numbers in only year two were very close to McCown's numbers, numbers we were very satisfied with. and Johnny won more games. he may be polarizing but at least he's not violent like Ray Rice or Suh, isn't getting DUI's like *fill in the blank* or gang related like Ray Lewis or hitting people w his car like Stallworth who murderered someone. he's not really even a diva. if you want Michael Jackson or Ozzy or Terrell Owens or Rex Ryan something comes with that. why aren't we even discussing Gilbert's utter refusal to take the field?? what has he earned?? he's shown less than Manziel, that's for sure. and if Johnny were never drafted by the Browns, all this focus would be on him.
honestly, who's the worse teammate, Gilbert: who is such a pariah they stopped even asking him to participate in community activities, or Manziel: who as i said may be polarizing but still puts asses in seats and keeps everyone talking about us for better or for worse. for every person that hates Johnny there are ten more who adore him. show me one brownsboarder that joined here because of Justin fucking Gilbert, or Mingo, Shelton, Erving, etc etc...
Manziel has a brand and a fan base of his own. somebody call me when he actually does something bad.
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Who was satisfied with Manziel's play this year? Even by the numbers they weren't even close to McCown's....
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