The browns are the most attractive place for a HC 2016
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Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?
Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.
So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.
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HA!....I can imagine.....I once owed a union organized company(4 unions to boot).....my worst decision ever and the longest 6 years of my life......
Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?
Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.
So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.
Why? Because you had to treat a pay your workers properly....and not treat them like slaves?
Point is, we were able to make things work even with union lawyers.
So, shit like that can be done....and the guys running the Browns can handle it.
Never said they couldnt handle it......where do you see that?
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Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What's your field?
Process Improvement/ Organizational Development...
Was going to send detail, but your PM is not set up.
No.....the Dicks are the ones who predict doom and gloom just because the way that the Browns are structuring. If all of you are so goddamned prescient, why are you here and not in Fiji on a beach after you have won multiple lotteries.
Because all my knowledge of organizations and how they work are not applicable to picking the Powerball?
What is the largest Organization you have ever Managed, Gip? Largest you've ever worked in?
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But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.
Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.
You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)
Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
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Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.
Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
lol... whatever, Gip...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Not much.
Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.
lol... whatever, Gip...
lol... whatever, Gip...
Obviously you can bring questions up and debate the whole concept of what they are doing but for anyone to repeat the mantra:
This won't work. I know it
This won't work. I know it.
This won't work. I know it.
They are just being an asshat.
I repeat:
They are just being an asshat.
I repeat:
They are just being an asshat.
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Difference is I have an actual basis for my critique...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Difference is I have an actual basis for my critique...
But your conclusion was a simple: it can't work.....because I don't think it could work in the line I am in.
First....I have no clue if it could work in your line or not.
Second...you think it won't work for the Browns.....but you don't know.
So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:
"It may or may not work. I don't really know".
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lol... whatever, Gip...
Obviously you can bring questions up and debate the whole concept of what they are doing but for anyone to repeat the mantra:
This won't work. I know it
This won't work. I know it.
This won't work. I know it.
They are just being an asshat.
I repeat:
They are just being an asshat.
I repeat:
They are just being an asshat.
Obviously you can bring questions up and debate the whole concept...
Well....apparently not.....because that would require us to speculate on the possibility that the new system wouldnt work and it would require us to discuss both sides of what they are doing(because thats what "debate" is).....and you dont seem to like that very much.
Should we just lick Haslem or Shashis dick and call it a day?
So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:
"It may or may not work. I don't really know".
Doesnt sound like much of an answer to me.................(or interesting discussion ftm)....
Lets see how it goes......"I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know"
Meh....Im bored already.....
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Difference is I have an actual basis for my critique...
But your conclusion was a simple: it can't work.....because I don't think it could work in the line I am in.
First....I have no clue if it could work in your line or not.
Second...you think it won't work for the Browns.....but you don't know.
So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:
"It may or may not work. I don't really know".
But your conclusion was a simple: it can't work.....because I don't think it could work in the line I am in.
First....I have no clue if it could work in your line or not.
Second...you think it won't work for the Browns.....but you don't know.
So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:
"It may or may not work. I don't really know".
As is often the case, Gip, you completely miss a point and then cling to your miss... so let me restate what I said.
I spent a third of my career studying organizational dynamics and applying them to my employer. The application was specific, but the knowledge gained was universal because the dynamics are universal.
There is no "one organization fits all" model, but the factors that determine the success or failure of any organization are universal. So far there are two major flaws in our new organization. That they are there may not guarantee failure, but they do decrease the chances of success.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
With the shape the Browns are in right now you would think the New coach would want in writing that he needs the very least 3 full seasons to get this mess turned around. And Why is it when we do draft the qb of our future we have him ride the bench for a season while he is watching an over the hill never was and the very next year we bring in another loser to train the new qb, smh
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has the OP yet been thoroughly divested of his original premise?
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Obviously you can bring questions up and debate the whole concept...
Well....apparently not.....because that would require us to speculate on the possibility that the new system wouldnt work and it would require us to discuss both sides of what they are doing(because thats what "debate" is).....and you dont seem to like that very much.
Should we just lick Haslem or Shashis dick and call it a day?
So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:
"It may or may not work. I don't really know".
Doesnt sound like much of an answer to me.................(or interesting discussion ftm)....
Lets see how it goes......"I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know"
Meh....Im bored already.....
Well....apparently not.....because that would require us to speculate on the possibility that the new system wouldnt work and it would require us to discuss both sides of what they are doing(because thats what "debate" is).....and you dont seem to like that very much.
No.....as what was said was not that.....the statements I am referring to are those who said flat out that they know that it cannot work. No ifs, ands or buts.
Should we just lick Haslem or Shashis dick and call it a day?
That is a personal choice between you and those 2 persons. You have to look to your own conscience for the answer to that.
Doesnt sound like much of an answer to me.................(or interesting discussion ftm)....
Lets see how it goes......"I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know"
Meh....Im bored already.....
It may be boring....but it is, for now, the right ultimate answer.
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But your conclusion was a simple: it can't work.....because I don't think it could work in the line I am in.
First....I have no clue if it could work in your line or not.
Second...you think it won't work for the Browns.....but you don't know.
So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:
"It may or may not work. I don't really know".
As is often the case, Gip, you completely miss a point and then cling to your miss... so let me restate what I said.
I spent a third of my career studying organizational dynamics and applying them to my employer. The application was specific, but the knowledge gained was universal because the dynamics are universal.
There is no "one organization fits all" model, but the factors that determine the success or failure of any organization are universal. So far there are two major flaws in our new organization. That they are there may not guarantee failure, but they do decrease the chances of success.
As is often the case, Gip, you completely miss a point and then cling to your miss... so let me restate what I said.
Well, it was your mess that I clung to, not mine.
I spent a third of my career studying organizational dynamics and applying them to my employer. The application was specific, but the knowledge gained was universal because the dynamics are universal.
There is no "one organization fits all" model, but the factors that determine the success or failure of any organization are universal. So far there are two major flaws in our new organization. That they are there may not guarantee failure, but they do decrease the chances of success.
And, again.....I should believe your bald unsubstantiated statements over the beliefs of a mult-billionaire business owner....a Harvard Law graduate...and the recognized pioneer in this field because?
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With the shape the Browns are in right now you would think the New coach would want in writing that he needs the very least 3 full seasons to get this mess turned around. And Why is it when we do draft the qb of our future we have him ride the bench for a season while he is watching an over the hill never was and the very next year we bring in another loser to train the new qb, smh
With the shape the Browns are in right now you would think the New coach would want in writing that he needs the very least 3 full seasons to get this mess turned around. And Why is it when we do draft the qb of our future we have him ride the bench for a season while he is watching an over the hill never was and the very next year we bring in another loser to train the new qb, smh
They get that in the form of a contract. They all get paid for the duration of it despite whether or not we relieve them of duty.
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As is often the case, Gip, you completely miss a point and then cling to your miss... so let me restate what I said.
Well, it was your mess that I clung to, not mine.
I spent a third of my career studying organizational dynamics and applying them to my employer. The application was specific, but the knowledge gained was universal because the dynamics are universal.
There is no "one organization fits all" model, but the factors that determine the success or failure of any organization are universal. So far there are two major flaws in our new organization. That they are there may not guarantee failure, but they do decrease the chances of success.
And, again.....I should believe your bald unsubstantiated statements over the beliefs of a mult-billionaire business owner....a Harvard Law graduate...and the recognized pioneer in this field because?
... and the recognized pioneer in this field because?[/color]
And now you're conflating organizational dynamics with Sabermetrics... lmao...
Believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, Gip... you usually do.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
That is my point, they are all getting let go early, We need to let them finish their contract not have them half way thru and say NEXT
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