Browns Hire Horton For D C
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Dansby was most cert not a bright spot. In his defense though, apparently he had to lose 30lbs to play in pets system. I'm still baffled by that. He lost all his field strength. But he's way overpriced for his production, even in the best of circumstances. It would be nice to keep a vet around to teach a new group of young LB'ers like Pgh is doing with Harrison.
Led the team in Total Tackles, Solo Tackles, Assists, Interceptions and Touchdowns. I thought he played his ass off on a shitty defense.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Led the team in Total Tackles, Solo Tackles, Assists, Interceptions and Touchdowns. I thought he played his ass off on a shitty defense.
Zombo
Just to add. Dansby had the Browns smack down of the year at Jets Goal line in Game 1. Loss weight may not have mattered on that one!!
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Zombo said:
Led the team in Total Tackles, Solo Tackles, Assists, Interceptions and Touchdowns. I thought he played his ass off on a shitty defense.
Zombo
Just to add. Dansby had the Browns smack down of the year at Jets Goal line in Game 1. Loss weight may not have mattered on that one!!
Just to add. Dansby had the Browns smack down of the year at Jets Goal line in Game 1. Loss weight may not have mattered on that one!!
and what since? he got routinely washed out of point of attack on probably 80% of the running plays against the Browns.
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I don't know about that. Dansby was one of the only bright spots on D, and Kirksey's going into his 3rd year.
I'd draft a LB for sure, but give those 2 a shot in Horton's system.
Dansby was most cert not a bright spot. In his defense though, apparently he had to lose 30lbs to play in pets system. I'm still baffled by that. He lost all his field strength. But he's way overpriced for his production, even in the best of circumstances. It would be nice to keep a vet around to teach a new group of young LB'ers like Pgh is doing with Harrison.
... apparently he had to lose 30lbs to play in pets system.
When did Dansby ever play at 260#?
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... apparently he had to lose 30lbs to play in pets system.
When did Dansby ever play at 260#?
When did Dansby ever play at 260#?
according to him that's what he played at Ariz. I know I thought that was high too but this was what Siragusa said on air....that Dansby told him he had to lose 30 lbs which put him at 228. I was thoroughly flummoxed myself on multiple levels. Why so heavy at Ariz, why so light now....wtf is Pettine doing with his 3-4 that Horton doesn't, what is the meaning of life etc, etc. Yeah it just made me scratch my head even harder. It seemed like Pettine was trying to get everyone to drop too much weight.
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and what since? he got routinely washed out of point of attack on probably 80% of the running plays against the Browns.
It's called scheme & Team Defense. watch Carolina's 4-3. when your d front can keep people off your LB's they make tackles..
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and what since? he got routinely washed out of point of attack on probably 80% of the running plays against the Browns.
It's called scheme & Team Defense. watch Carolina's 4-3. when your d front can keep people off your LB's they make tackles..
It's called scheme & Team Defense. watch Carolina's 4-3. when your d front can keep people off your LB's they make tackles..
oh I agree, but Kuechly makes his own way to the runner routinely whether someone's trying to block him or not. And Dansby routinely runs up into the wrong gap with no one on him. I don't know anymore if it's scheme or talent, I suspect it's both, I just want him gone..kirk too.
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It's called scheme & Team Defense. watch Carolina's 4-3. when your d front can keep people off your LB's they make tackles..
oh I agree, but Kuechly makes his own way to the runner routinely whether someone's trying to block him or not. And Dansby routinely runs up into the wrong gap with no one on him. I don't know anymore if it's scheme or talent, I suspect it's both, I just want him gone..kirk too.
oh I agree, but Kuechly makes his own way to the runner routinely whether someone's trying to block him or not. And Dansby routinely runs up into the wrong gap with no one on him. I don't know anymore if it's scheme or talent, I suspect it's both, I just want him gone..kirk too.
Plueeezzzzzzeee. after watching the Carolina- Seahawks game, there's probably not another 5 MLBs in the NFL that could sniff Kuechly's jockstrap. The guy has unbelievable range & instincts. That pass breakup showed how great he is.
Having a linebacker that great on the roster would help, but for the Browns you'd probably have to go back to Chip Banks to find someone that good. For the short attention spans that want Dansby gone- I think the same things were said about D'Qwell Jackson.
If I want to blame anyone- it's Farmer for gutting the defense, (Sheard, Rubin, Ward) and bringing in oldsters to replace them.
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oh I agree, but Kuechly makes his own way to the runner routinely whether someone's trying to block him or not. And Dansby routinely runs up into the wrong gap with no one on him. I don't know anymore if it's scheme or talent, I suspect it's both, I just want him gone..kirk too.
Plueeezzzzzzeee. after watching the Carolina- Seahawks game, there's probably not another 5 MLBs in the NFL that could sniff Kuechly's jockstrap. The guy has unbelievable range & instincts. That pass breakup showed how great he is.
Having a linebacker that great on the roster would help, but for the Browns you'd probably have to go back to Chip Banks to find someone that good. For the short attention spans that want Dansby gone- I think the same things were said about D'Qwell Jackson.
If I want to blame anyone- it's Farmer for gutting the defense, (Sheard, Rubin, Ward) and bringing in oldsters to replace them.
If I want to blame anyone- it's Farmer for gutting the defense, (Sheard, Rubin, Ward) and bringing in oldsters to replace them.
Yes, this sucks
I still have a fedora autographed by TJ Ward (it's all I had at the time)
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IMHO Luke is the best linebacker to come out since Ray Ray. He's the complete package. So just saying 'find backers like Keuchley'... well, that shit just doesn't come around often.
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IMHO Luke is the best linebacker to come out since Ray Ray. He's the complete package. So just saying 'find backers like Keuchley'... well, that shit just doesn't come around often.
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IMHO Luke is the best linebacker to come out since Ray Ray. He's the complete package. So just saying 'find backers like Keuchley'... well, that shit just doesn't come around often.
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Yes, this sucks
I still have a fedora autographed by TJ Ward (it's all I had at the time)
I also have a TJ autograph. I met him at t Browns Backers banquet (along with Same Rutigliano) The thing that shocked me meeting him in person is for as hard as he hits- he's not that big. If you didn't know he was an NFL player, you'd pass him on the street.
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Yes, this sucks
I still have a fedora autographed by TJ Ward (it's all I had at the time)
I also have a TJ autograph. I met him at t Browns Backers banquet (along with Same Rutigliano) The thing that shocked me meeting him in person is for as hard as he hits- he's not that big. If you didn't know he was an NFL player, you'd pass him on the street.
I also have a TJ autograph. I met him at t Browns Backers banquet (along with Same Rutigliano) The thing that shocked me meeting him in person is for as hard as he hits- he's not that big. If you didn't know he was an NFL player, you'd pass him on the street.
Yea I made that observation too. He was also with haden (but I didn't get his autograph) haden isn't that big either
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oh I agree, but Kuechly makes his own way to the runner routinely whether someone's trying to block him or not. And Dansby routinely runs up into the wrong gap with no one on him. I don't know anymore if it's scheme or talent, I suspect it's both, I just want him gone..kirk too.
Plueeezzzzzzeee. after watching the Carolina- Seahawks game, there's probably not another 5 MLBs in the NFL that could sniff Kuechly's jockstrap. The guy has unbelievable range & instincts. That pass breakup showed how great he is.
Having a linebacker that great on the roster would help, but for the Browns you'd probably have to go back to Chip Banks to find someone that good. For the short attention spans that want Dansby gone- I think the same things were said about D'Qwell Jackson.
If I want to blame anyone- it's Farmer for gutting the defense, (Sheard, Rubin, Ward) and bringing in oldsters to replace them.
Plueeezzzzzzeee. after watching the Carolina- Seahawks game, there's probably not another 5 MLBs in the NFL that could sniff Kuechly's jockstrap. The guy has unbelievable range & instincts. That pass breakup showed how great he is.
Having a linebacker that great on the roster would help, but for the Browns you'd probably have to go back to Chip Banks to find someone that good. For the short attention spans that want Dansby gone- I think the same things were said about D'Qwell Jackson.
If I want to blame anyone- it's Farmer for gutting the defense, (Sheard, Rubin, Ward) and bringing in oldsters to replace them.
Funny thing is, as good as the Browns have been in the course of history....they have never had a HOF LB play for them.
Bill Willis was listed as a "Middle Guard"....but I think that may have been more of a nose tackle like position.
Clay Matthews has been probably the best.....and apparently the powers that be do not think of him as being a HOF LB...as he is not in....nor gotten very close. Jim Houston may be next. For a short stint, yes, Chip Banks may have been among the best the Browns ever had.
But overall, it has not been a position of strength historically for the Browns. They have done better with DL and DBs.
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The Cleveland Browns have contacted Jim Schwartz about becoming the team's defensive coordinator, a league source told ESPN'S Paul Kuharsky.
However, the Eagles and Jaguars also have contacted Schwartz, and he is considering his options. He would have preferred to work for the Titans, but Dick LeBeau is staying in Tennessee.
The Browns have been in touch with former coordinator Ray Horton in addition to Schwartz. Horton is under contract with Tennessee and said he is discussing an extension with the Titans, but the Titans could let him out of his deal. It appears Schwartz or Horton are in line to be defensive coordinator under new coach Hue Jackson.
The NFL Network reported that Horton would interview with the Browns this week.
Schwartz was coach of the Lions from 2009-2013, and spent 2014 in Buffalo. He replaced Mike Pettine, whom the Browns hired to be their coach. He was a college and pro scout from 1993 to 1995 with the Browns under Bill Belichick.
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The Cleveland Browns have contacted Jim Schwartz about becoming the team's defensive coordinator, a league source told ESPN'S Paul Kuharsky.
However, the Eagles and Jaguars also have contacted Schwartz, and he is considering his options. He would have preferred to work for the Titans, but Dick LeBeau is staying in Tennessee.
The Browns have been in touch with former coordinator Ray Horton in addition to Schwartz. Horton is under contract with Tennessee and said he is discussing an extension with the Titans, but the Titans could let him out of his deal. It appears Schwartz or Horton are in line to be defensive coordinator under new coach Hue Jackson.
The NFL Network reported that Horton would interview with the Browns this week.
Schwartz was coach of the Lions from 2009-2013, and spent 2014 in Buffalo. He replaced Mike Pettine, whom the Browns hired to be their coach. He was a college and pro scout from 1993 to 1995 with the Browns under Bill Belichick.
Maybe not:
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The Cleveland Browns have contacted Jim Schwartz about becoming the team's defensive coordinator, a league source told ESPN'S Paul Kuharsky.
However, the Eagles and Jaguars also have contacted Schwartz, and he is considering his options. He would have preferred to work for the Titans, but Dick LeBeau is staying in Tennessee.
The Browns have been in touch with former coordinator Ray Horton in addition to Schwartz. Horton is under contract with Tennessee and said he is discussing an extension with the Titans, but the Titans could let him out of his deal. It appears Schwartz or Horton are in line to be defensive coordinator under new coach Hue Jackson.
The NFL Network reported that Horton would interview with the Browns this week.
Schwartz was coach of the Lions from 2009-2013, and spent 2014 in Buffalo. He replaced Mike Pettine, whom the Browns hired to be their coach. He was a college and pro scout from 1993 to 1995 with the Browns under Bill Belichick.
Hopefully, the Schwartz is with us.
Zombo
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Oh please make this be true
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Getting Schwartz in here would be great.
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