Jonathan Paul Manziel
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There's been a Johnny sighting. Back to boozing in Texas.
Beat me to it, BB.
Zombo said:
His girlfriend goes to school there. He bought some good tequila. We know he drinks, do they have to report every time he goes to liquor store now?
Z
--The only thing that would be news is if he were in Cleveland working out.
It's not that he was spotted in a liquor store Z- you ought to know that It's what he does with that liquor is a concern. LOL, every wine store in Dayton knows me on a first name basis. Like last year when security had to go to his place, and he was still hung over. BTW Z- I just checked the price on Don Julio- and Johnny either bought 3 fifths, or a 1.75. There be some partying going on.
And to his other apologists- I really want to hear a rational explanation from you what anyone would do with a rolled up bill in a restroom- other than snort some blow.
Beat me to it, BB.
It's not that he was spotted in a liquor store Z- you ought to know that It's what he does with that liquor is a concern. LOL, every wine store in Dayton knows me on a first name basis. Like last year when security had to go to his place, and he was still hung over. BTW Z- I just checked the price on Don Julio- and Johnny either bought 3 fifths, or a 1.75. There be some partying going on.
And to his other apologists- I really want to hear a rational explanation from you what anyone would do with a rolled up bill in a restroom- other than snort some blow.
Haven't you heard? Rolling up money is a more efficient than folding it.
I keep all of my bills rolled up in tight tubes now.
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"Wise guy always carries his money in a roll."
-Lefty Ruggerio
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Beat me to it, BB.
It's not that he was spotted in a liquor store Z- you ought to know that It's what he does with that liquor is a concern. LOL, every wine store in Dayton knows me on a first name basis. Like last year when security had to go to his place, and he was still hung over. BTW Z- I just checked the price on Don Julio- and Johnny either bought 3 fifths, or a 1.75. There be some partying going on.
And to his other apologists- I really want to hear a rational explanation from you what anyone would do with a rolled up bill in a restroom- other than snort some blow.
I'm an Manziel apologist now?
Unfortunately I have been 100% right on this kid all along.
We're moving on from this shitshow so I am not concerned in the least that he's still drinking.
He's gone. And I really don't care if we get anything for him. Cause it won't be much.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I'm an Manziel apologist now?
Unfortunately I have been 100% right on this kid all along.
We're moving on from this shitshow so I am not concerned in the least that he's still drinking.
He's gone. And I really don't care if we get anything for him. Cause it won't be much.
Zombo
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
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Zombo said:
I'm an Manziel apologist now?
Unfortunately I have been 100% right on this kid all along.
We're moving on from this shitshow so I am not concerned in the least that he's still drinking.
He's gone. And I really don't care if we get anything for him. Cause it won't be much.
Zombo
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
Yes and we will be on the hook for his salary for the next couple years.
Sounds like the Browns are winning, Charlie Sheen style.
WSS
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Zombo said:
I'm an Manziel apologist now?
Unfortunately I have been 100% right on this kid all along.
We're moving on from this shitshow so I am not concerned in the least that he's still drinking.
He's gone. And I really don't care if we get anything for him. Cause it won't be much.
Zombo
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
Yep, guess that is why I don't care anymore what he does ... actually if he did something fucked up again, that might be entertaining ... but buying a bottle of tequila ... well shit if you're going to drink, drink the good stuff. He can afford it. Even if he never plays another down.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
I'm an Manziel apologist now?
Unfortunately I have been 100% right on this kid all along.
We're moving on from this shitshow so I am not concerned in the least that he's still drinking.
He's gone. And I really don't care if we get anything for him. Cause it won't be much.
Zombo
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
The only way we get anything is if more than 1 team is interested, and barring a miracle we're talking 6th round pick at best. At this point I think 0 teams want him and he'll end up playing in the CFL (I see Jerrah going for RG3).
Some quiet CFL team forum will gain thousands of new members and everybody will forever be in peace every time Johnny has a good game his fans will come back and say "told you so! you missed out big!"
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Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
Yes and we will be on the hook for his salary for the next couple years.
Sounds like the Browns are winning, Charlie Sheen style.
WSS
Yes and we will be on the hook for his salary for the next couple years.
Sounds like the Browns are winning, Charlie Sheen style.
WSS
Yep.
$4.6 Mil in dead cap
Maybe we will get it right one of these times.
7.6 Dead cap on Justin Gilbert by the way.
Hopefully we are done paying for Weeden and Richardson by now though.
Zombo
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Yes and we will be on the hook for his salary for the next couple years.
Sounds like the Browns are winning, Charlie Sheen style.
WSS
Yep.
$4.6 Mil in dead cap
Maybe we will get it right one of these times.
7.6 Dead cap on Justin Gilbert by the way.
Hopefully we are done paying for Weeden and Richardson by now though.
Zombo
Houston has to pay Weeden now right?Zombo said:
Yep.
$4.6 Mil in dead cap
Maybe we will get it right one of these times.
7.6 Dead cap on Justin Gilbert by the way.
Hopefully we are done paying for Weeden and Richardson by now though.
Zombo
Chud? Pettine? Bowe?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Houston has to pay Weeden now right?Zombo said:
Yep.
$4.6 Mil in dead cap
Maybe we will get it right one of these times.
7.6 Dead cap on Justin Gilbert by the way.
Hopefully we are done paying for Weeden and Richardson by now though.
Zombo
Chud? Pettine? Bowe?
WSS
Houston has to pay Weeden now right?
Chud? Pettine? Bowe?
WSS
I think Cowboys paid for Weed this year, now he can move to the retirement home after two nice contracts.
Zombo
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Houston has to pay Weeden now right?Zombo said:
Yep.
$4.6 Mil in dead cap
Maybe we will get it right one of these times.
7.6 Dead cap on Justin Gilbert by the way.
Hopefully we are done paying for Weeden and Richardson by now though.
Zombo
Chud? Pettine? Bowe?
WSS
Houston has to pay Weeden now right?
Chud? Pettine? Bowe?
WSS
Steve- this is the Bible of NFL salaries.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/Replying to Zombo, Wee-done is only on the Texans books for $270k this year, I can't figure out how that's possible, as it's less than Vet minimum.
Regarding coaches,it's a little tougher to find out. Pettine has another two years left on his contract for probably $7 million total. Chud is probably off the Brown's books. The deal with Pettine is if the Browns had "offset language" in his contract. (I would hope they did) Meaning, if he gets another job in the next two years- what the Browns would owe him is reduced by the amount his new employer is willing to pay him.
Bowe? You want to talk about a bad deal- looking at sportstrac, we're still going to have to pay him another $2.8 million of the $6 million on his 2016 contract (he was guaranteed $9 million total) this year to tell him to take a hike. At least we don't have any dead money or cap hit if we release him prior to June 1st.
Speaking of Johnny- besides the cap hit and dead money, if we cut him- he gets a nice Golden Bar Card of at least $1 million + of the $7 million he was guaranteed on his rookie deal.
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Houston has to pay Weeden now right?
Chud? Pettine? Bowe?
WSS
Steve- this is the Bible of NFL salaries.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/Replying to Zombo, Wee-done is only on the Texans books for $270k this year, I can't figure out how that's possible, as it's less than Vet minimum.
Regarding coaches,it's a little tougher to find out. Pettine has another two years left on his contract for probably $7 million total. Chud is probably off the Brown's books. The deal with Pettine is if the Browns had "offset language" in his contract. (I would hope they did) Meaning, if he gets another job in the next two years- what the Browns would owe him is reduced by the amount his new employer is willing to pay him.
Bowe? You want to talk about a bad deal- looking at sportstrac, we're still going to have to pay him another $2.8 million of the $6 million on his 2016 contract (he was guaranteed $9 million total) this year to tell him to take a hike. At least we don't have any dead money or cap hit if we release him prior to June 1st.
Speaking of Johnny- besides the cap hit and dead money, if we cut him- he gets a nice Golden Bar Card of at least $1 million + of the $7 million he was guaranteed on his rookie deal.
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Z, that wasn't directed at you- more like hard core Johnny thumpers like PG who are still in denial about Johnny.
We're probably not getting jack for JM- Jerrah will probably just wait till we cut him.
The only way we get anything is if more than 1 team is interested, and barring a miracle we're talking 6th round pick at best. At this point I think 0 teams want him and he'll end up playing in the CFL (I see Jerrah going for RG3).
Some quiet CFL team forum will gain thousands of new members and everybody will forever be in peace every time Johnny has a good game his fans will come back and say "told you so! you missed out big!"
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I ain't heard no fat lady.
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Disappointed Johnny was doing blow in a Vegas bathroom with dudes, instead of properly doing it off a stripper's ass in a hotel room. Kid needs to seriously learn how prioritize every little thing in his life.
Maybe Bri can be his life coach after he washes out of the league next season.
We argue and hate each other over some really big losers. DA, Quinn, McCoy, Hoyer, Manziel. Kill me. The only name on that list who still has a chance to be a successful QB is probably knocked out on a couch or floor somewhere with an empty handle of Johnny Walker on the floor.
Kill me again
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Again I would guess that it's more an addiction to fame and an out of control ego than it is actually alcohol addiction.
But still there has to be some time in his life he will be sitting in the stands at the Super Bowl regretting the time he pissed away the opportunity to be the guy on the field. For fucking nothing.
The bitterness of the high school drama coach thinking back on the day he showed up drunk for the audition on Broadway.
How long will it be before someone comes up to him in a supermarket and asks "hey, didn't you used to be Johnny football?"
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Again I would guess that it's more an addiction to fame and an out of control ego than it is actually alcohol addiction.
But still there has to be some time in his life he will be sitting in the stands at the Super Bowl regretting the time he pissed away the opportunity to be the guy on the field. For fucking nothing.
The bitterness of the high school drama coach thinking back on the day he showed up drunk for the audition on Broadway.
How long will it be before someone comes up to him in a supermarket and asks "hey, didn't you used to be Johnny football?"
WSS
Again I would guess that it's more an addiction to fame and an out of control ego than it is actually alcohol addiction.
But still there has to be some time in his life he will be sitting in the stands at the Super Bowl regretting the time he pissed away the opportunity to be the guy on the field. For fucking nothing.
The bitterness of the high school drama coach thinking back on the day he showed up drunk for the audition on Broadway.
How long will it be before someone comes up to him in a supermarket and asks "hey, didn't you used to be Johnny football?"
WSS
It seems closer to that other Texas kid that has "affluenza"..but any way you look at it, neither is cut out to be a NFL qb.
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Manziel will never be a consistent NFL starter until he fully addresses his addiction issues, and then CONTINUES to work on them. I don't know if the NFL player's agreement allows this, but if I was thinking about signing Johnny, I'd make him sign an agreement which stipulates he must actively participate in substance treatment, get a sponsor, and attend meetings. I'd also have him sign a waiver of confidentiality that allowed the team to speak to his sponsor so progress could be monitored. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but Johnny simply can't do it on his own. Every single person I've known that got better...did so with help, and with continued help.
Johnny has said this dozens of times in the past, but actions speak louder than words. Putting on a costume, failing to participate in treatment, drinking videos on the internet...those actions speak so much louder than anything Johnny has ever said. I want him to succeed, and I want him to have a healthy life. I don't think it's going to be with us, but SOMEBODY is going to give the kid a chance, and I hope he makes the most of it because his chances are running out.
I don't see the Browns getting a viable QB in free agency or in a trade, as that hardly ever happens. We're going to get one either with our first or second pick, and hopefully that pick sits behind McCown for a little while.
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If he manages to get another contract anywhere, i'm certain it will be incentive laden with little if any guaranteed
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