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  • If they were unconstitutional then the congress wouldn't just bitch about it they would do something about it - as is within their power.

    @bbedward said:

    If they were unconstitutional then the congress wouldn't just bitch about it they would do something about it - as is within their power.

    You probably think more highly of congress than I do. John Boehner recently stepped down as majority leader in congress but yes he would just cry about it.

  • sigh. It isn't the number of exec orders, it's the INTENT and SCOPE of the exec order.

    A tweak is different than inventing law that doesn't exist because you're a dissheet leftist

    extremist and that's the only way you can implement your libereral assholeness.

    And too many in c0ngress are fearful of incurring the left's wrath. The left is in it for all or nothing,

    and they will cheapshot with malicious intent.

    Meanwhile, the dems had control, and they gave the finger to the reps, and voted in Obamaocare

    as a gigantic political accomplishment.

    The left are like nazis, if it benefits the nazi party, it's a good thing. Now, look at the crap obamao and higgardly

    have done, look at the coverups....

    leftism is the new liberal god, because it gets them free stuff.

    Which is how hitler came to power, he promised all sorts of great things.

  • You are right Cal it is not the number of executive orders it is the kinds of executive orders I have a problem with Obama about. When executive orders are actually making new law that is wrong. A president cannot or should not anyway over ride congress to get his agenda accomplished. That is the reason for our checks and balances. The people spoke and elected a republican House and Senate and wanted divided government to force Obama to work and compromise for his agenda. He was not elected because he had a cell phone and an ink pen and act like a king.

  • Unless it is an act of war spurred on by a surprise attack, I am never comfortable with Presidents using executive orders to do what they want. Why even elect legislators at that point?

  • Unless it is an act of war spurred on by a surprise attack, I am never comfortable with Presidents using executive orders to do what they want. Why even elect legislators at that point?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Unless it is an act of war spurred on by a surprise attack, I am never comfortable with Presidents using executive orders to do what they want. Why even elect legislators at that point?

    Agree.

  • No, Cal/OBF you may disagree with the content of the executive orders - but they aren't unconstitutional. I'm sure many democrats/leftists disagreed with the content of a lot of Bush's executive orders.

    Nazi/Hitler argument is used by both the left and right and it's incredibly Retarded and appeals to small-minded people. "I disagree" does not mean "Literally Hitler" I hate seeing that argument from either side - the left and right both use it.

    Technically, in the US

    The left is more like globalist crony capitalists (Hillary) or globalist socialists (Bernie)

    The right is more about nationalism and crony capitalism - except the establishment are probably more like globalists - as evidenced by things like the TPP.

    "Make America Great Again" versus "Be Fair so Everybody Can Be Great"

    Nazi Germany was built on hardcore nationalism combined with socialist economy. A small minority of people in the US would identify that way - therefore I find calling the left or right nazis and Hitler is inaccurate and misinformed.

  • Hitler comparisons are probably not good generally speaking but I do have problems with some of the hard left who seem to have little regard for the constitution. Recently at Missouri University we had a college professor try to remove a student from filming a protest. The student told her he had every right under the first amendment to film the protest and her response was to tell the crowd "we need some muscle over here". The student knew more about the first amendment than the professor. Maybe not all on the left but for sure there are a number of them that need to learn what our constitution is about and the wisdom of the founders of this country.


  • Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!


  • His campaign told everyone Carson dropped out. His campaign manager tweeted it and talked about how he'd make a great VP candidate for Cruz right around primary time - then has since deleted them.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/267996-carson-rips-dishonest-culture-of-cruz-campaign

  • Iowa needs to jump into the 21st century anyway as Hillary Clinton only beat Sanders because she won 6 consecutive coin flips. Lucky her. The democrats need to move up to rock-paper-scissors to decide presidential primaries. 🙂

  • Iowa needs to jump into the 21st century anyway as Hillary Clinton only beat Sanders because she won 6 consecutive coin flips. Lucky her. The democrats need to move up to rock-paper-scissors to decide presidential primaries. 🙂

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Iowa needs to jump into the 21st century anyway as Hillary Clinton only beat Sanders because she won 6 consecutive coin flips. Lucky her. The democrats need to move up to rock-paper-scissors to decide presidential primaries. 🙂

    Yeah, that's the most fucked up thing ever. If a single delegate is tied then sure, coin toss, but if multiple are tied, distribute them according to polling. Hillary 3, Bernie 3.

  • I saw this and thought it was funny

    Things I trust more than I trust Hillary Clinton:

    Mexican tap water.

    A rattlesnake with a "pet me" sign.

    OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection.

    Farting when I have diarrhea.

    An elevator ride with Ray Rice.

    Having a drink offered by Bill Cosby.

    Michael Jackson's Doctor.

    An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran.

    A Palestinian on a motorcycle.

    Gas station Sushi.

    A Nazi plumber.

    A Jimmy Carter economic plan.

    A government worker telling me that he wants to help me.

    Brian Williams news reports.

    Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton.

    Playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic pistol.

    An email from a Nigerian prince.

    The Heimlich Maneuver from Barney Frank.

    A condom made in China.

    A prostate exam done by Captain Hook.

    Bill Clinton at a Girl Scout convention.

  • Hitler comparisons are probably not good generally speaking but I do have problems with some of the hard left who seem to have little regard for the constitution. Recently at Missouri University we had a college professor try to remove a student from filming a protest. The student told her he had every right under the first amendment to film the protest and her response was to tell the crowd "we need some muscle over here". The student knew more about the first amendment than the professor. Maybe not all on the left but for sure there are a number of them that need to learn what our constitution is about and the wisdom of the founders of this country.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Hitler comparisons are probably not good generally speaking but I do have problems with some of the hard left who seem to have little regard for the constitution. Recently at Missouri University we had a college professor try to remove a student from filming a protest. The student told her he had every right under the first amendment to film the protest and her response was to tell the crowd "we need some muscle over here". The student knew more about the first amendment than the professor. Maybe not all on the left but for sure there are a number of them that need to learn what our constitution is about and the wisdom of the founders of this country.

    You're interpretation of the Constitution. Trump had "Anti-Trump" protesters removed from his rally, you ready to start a new thread.

  • He removes anti Trump protesters from every rally

  • He removes anti Trump protesters from every rally

    @bbedward said:

    He removes anti Trump protesters from every rally

    And "my" interpretation of the 1st Amendment is anything that doesn't incite violence or cause violence is protected speech. So if you make it into a political rally you're speech should be protected.

  • @bbedward said:

    He removes anti Trump protesters from every rally

    And "my" interpretation of the 1st Amendment is anything that doesn't incite violence or cause violence is protected speech. So if you make it into a political rally you're speech should be protected.

    @baconhound said:

    And "my" interpretation of the 1st Amendment is anything that doesn't incite violence or cause violence is protected speech. So if you make it into a political rally you're speech should be protected.

    Yelling and causing a disturbance in a private event isn't protected under the first amendment. They're just disturbing all the people who waited however many hours to legitimately hear the event.

    If they were outside the private venue, then yes they'd be fine.

    If you went into a McDonalds and started yelling "McDonalds is evil" that's not protected under the first amendment, they'll kick your ass out

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Hitler comparisons are probably not good generally speaking but I do have problems with some of the hard left who seem to have little regard for the constitution. Recently at Missouri University we had a college professor try to remove a student from filming a protest. The student told her he had every right under the first amendment to film the protest and her response was to tell the crowd "we need some muscle over here". The student knew more about the first amendment than the professor. Maybe not all on the left but for sure there are a number of them that need to learn what our constitution is about and the wisdom of the founders of this country.

    You're interpretation of the Constitution. Trump had "Anti-Trump" protesters removed from his rally, you ready to start a new thread.

    @baconhound said:

    You're interpretation of the Constitution. Trump had "Anti-Trump" protesters removed from his rally, you ready to start a new thread.

    Like any real mid Western Americans care what some New England fag thinks?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Hitler comparisons are probably not good generally speaking but I do have problems with some of the hard left who seem to have little regard for the constitution. Recently at Missouri University we had a college professor try to remove a student from filming a protest. The student told her he had every right under the first amendment to film the protest and her response was to tell the crowd "we need some muscle over here". The student knew more about the first amendment than the professor. Maybe not all on the left but for sure there are a number of them that need to learn what our constitution is about and the wisdom of the founders of this country.

    You're interpretation of the Constitution. Trump had "Anti-Trump" protesters removed from his rally, you ready to start a new thread.

    @baconhound said:

    You're interpretation of the Constitution. Trump had "Anti-Trump" protesters removed from his rally, you ready to start a new thread.

    No it is not just my interpretation as this professor got criminal charges over this:

    Missouri Professor Who Called for ‘Some Muscle’ at Protest Is Charged

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/melissa-click-missouri-professor-who-called-for-some-muscle-at-protest-is-charged.html

  • @baconhound said:

    And "my" interpretation of the 1st Amendment is anything that doesn't incite violence or cause violence is protected speech. So if you make it into a political rally you're speech should be protected.

    Yelling and causing a disturbance in a private event isn't protected under the first amendment. They're just disturbing all the people who waited however many hours to legitimately hear the event.

    If they were outside the private venue, then yes they'd be fine.

    If you went into a McDonalds and started yelling "McDonalds is evil" that's not protected under the first amendment, they'll kick your ass out

    @bbedward said:

    Yelling and causing a disturbance in a private event isn't protected under the first amendment. They're just disturbing all the people who waited however many hours to legitimately hear the event.

    If they were outside the private venue, then yes they'd be fine.

    If you went into a McDonalds and started yelling "McDonalds is evil" that's not protected under the first amendment, they'll kick your ass out

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    While I don't disagree with you as we can see with the language of the First Amendment it strictly is talking about the power of Congress and the creation of law. Every situation that determines what speech is allowed and which isn't is strictly "our" interpretation of what was intended by the First Amendment.

  • @baconhound said:

    You're interpretation of the Constitution. Trump had "Anti-Trump" protesters removed from his rally, you ready to start a new thread.

    No it is not just my interpretation as this professor got criminal charges over this:

    Missouri Professor Who Called for ‘Some Muscle’ at Protest Is Charged

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/melissa-click-missouri-professor-who-called-for-some-muscle-at-protest-is-charged.html

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    No it is not just my interpretation as this professor got criminal charges over this:

    Missouri Professor Who Called for ‘Some Muscle’ at Protest Is Charged

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/melissa-click-missouri-professor-who-called-for-some-muscle-at-protest-is-charged.html

    I'm sure you actually read the link you posted. The misdemeanor assault charge is for striking the person and threatening harm, not saying "get the fuck out of here"...