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  • One thing to consider, if college graduates today aren't able to find suitable employment that would equal to the amount of education they have now, what makes anyone think that a free college degrees for every citizen would be beneficial?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    One thing to consider, if college graduates today aren't able to find suitable employment that would equal to the amount of education they have now, what makes anyone think that a free college degrees for every citizen would be beneficial?

    WSS

    Workers are capital steve. What is capitalism without capital right? If workers don't have the skills for available jobs, that's a problem. But people can't just go running back to college any old time they feel like it can they? Mainly cause it costs a lot of money. If education were free or at least in good part subsidized, we could be a more nimble work force. And that means a better econ for everyone. It really is a win win IF the skills being subsidized are what business's need/want.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

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    That's pretty damn funny. But.....he's not wrong. Just might not be the right way to get there, but he isn't wrong.

  • @westside-steve said:

    One thing to consider, if college graduates today aren't able to find suitable employment that would equal to the amount of education they have now, what makes anyone think that a free college degrees for every citizen would be beneficial?

    WSS

    Workers are capital steve. What is capitalism without capital right? If workers don't have the skills for available jobs, that's a problem. But people can't just go running back to college any old time they feel like it can they? Mainly cause it costs a lot of money. If education were free or at least in good part subsidized, we could be a more nimble work force. And that means a better econ for everyone. It really is a win win IF the skills being subsidized are what business's need/want.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Workers are capital steve. What is capitalism without capital right? If workers don't have the skills for available jobs, that's a problem. But people can't just go running back to college any old time they feel like it can they? Mainly cause it costs a lot of money. If education were free or at least in good part subsidized, we could be a more nimble work force. And that means a better econ for everyone. It really is a win win IF the skills being subsidized are what business's need/want.

    Oh it could shake out that way, but I don't see it. If the labor force is already balking at hiring people with degrees I don't see why more people with degrees would make them more attractive? And it's not really going back to school even though I'm not sure what positions would be available to workers who did go back? I don't know how many research scientist we need. Nor how many people would decide to go through that program even if it was free. I would bet the tech savvy kids are already going to college under student loans and not worrying about the cost until later.

    And if we're all free to follow our muse on Mr Sanders dime I can always go back and get a masters in theater. I will then apply for the lead role in the next Jennifer Aniston movie. We'll see how that works 😉

    WSS

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Workers are capital steve. What is capitalism without capital right? If workers don't have the skills for available jobs, that's a problem. But people can't just go running back to college any old time they feel like it can they? Mainly cause it costs a lot of money. If education were free or at least in good part subsidized, we could be a more nimble work force. And that means a better econ for everyone. It really is a win win IF the skills being subsidized are what business's need/want.

    Oh it could shake out that way, but I don't see it. If the labor force is already balking at hiring people with degrees I don't see why more people with degrees would make them more attractive? And it's not really going back to school even though I'm not sure what positions would be available to workers who did go back? I don't know how many research scientist we need. Nor how many people would decide to go through that program even if it was free. I would bet the tech savvy kids are already going to college under student loans and not worrying about the cost until later.

    And if we're all free to follow our muse on Mr Sanders dime I can always go back and get a masters in theater. I will then apply for the lead role in the next Jennifer Aniston movie. We'll see how that works 😉

    WSS

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And if we're all free to follow our muse on Mr Sanders dime I can always go back and get a masters in theater. I will then apply for the lead role in the next Jennifer Aniston movie. We'll see how that works 😉

    ok well we've been over this so no more bringing up degrees like theatre or whatnot. Only skillsets/degrees that business's say there are looking for. I'm not on board with Sanders idea of making anything and everything free of charge.

  • @westside-steve said:

    And if we're all free to follow our muse on Mr Sanders dime I can always go back and get a masters in theater. I will then apply for the lead role in the next Jennifer Aniston movie. We'll see how that works 😉

    ok well we've been over this so no more bringing up degrees like theatre or whatnot. Only skillsets/degrees that business's say there are looking for. I'm not on board with Sanders idea of making anything and everything free of charge.

    @clevfan4life said:

    ok well we've been over this so no more bringing up degrees like theatre or whatnot. Only skillsets/degrees that business's say there are looking for. I'm not on board with Sanders idea of making anything and everything free of charge.

    Guess what, every subject here has been repeated ad nauseum. Anyway go ahead tell the kids who want to go into fashion design social work basket weaving art history that they can't go because were only writing checks to lawyers, engineers and research scientists, at least the ones who think man-made global warming is a threat to the planet. 😉

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    ok well we've been over this so no more bringing up degrees like theatre or whatnot. Only skillsets/degrees that business's say there are looking for. I'm not on board with Sanders idea of making anything and everything free of charge.

    Guess what, every subject here has been repeated ad nauseum. Anyway go ahead tell the kids who want to go into fashion design social work basket weaving art history that they can't go because were only writing checks to lawyers, engineers and research scientists, at least the ones who think man-made global warming is a threat to the planet. 😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Guess what, every subject here has been repeated ad nauseum. Anyway go ahead tell the kids who want to go into fashion design social work basket weaving art history that they can't go because were only writing checks to lawyers, engineers and research scientists, at least the ones who think man-made global warming is a threat to the planet. 😉

    WSS

    yeah well we're gonna have to. Fashion design is all nice and stuff, but it can't be heavily subsidized if at all. I dunno, maybe if this country finally got a clue and brought back hemp we could have a thriving textile industry again and fashion designers could be more useful designing more normal clothes. So what i'm getting it is that what today seems not useful could theoretically be useful in the future. So there has to be a periodic re examination of what subsidize and what we don't. It's all on business's and what they need.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Guess what, every subject here has been repeated ad nauseum. Anyway go ahead tell the kids who want to go into fashion design social work basket weaving art history that they can't go because were only writing checks to lawyers, engineers and research scientists, at least the ones who think man-made global warming is a threat to the planet. 😉

    WSS

    yeah well we're gonna have to. Fashion design is all nice and stuff, but it can't be heavily subsidized if at all. I dunno, maybe if this country finally got a clue and brought back hemp we could have a thriving textile industry again and fashion designers could be more useful designing more normal clothes. So what i'm getting it is that what today seems not useful could theoretically be useful in the future. So there has to be a periodic re examination of what subsidize and what we don't. It's all on business's and what they need.

    @clevfan4life said:

    yeah well we're gonna have to. Fashion design is all nice and stuff, but it can't be heavily subsidized if at all. I dunno, maybe if this country finally got a clue and brought back hemp we could have a thriving textile industry again and fashion designers could be more useful designing more normal clothes. So what i'm getting it is that what today seems not useful could theoretically be useful in the future. So there has to be a periodic re examination of what subsidize and what we don't. It's all on business's and what they need.

    I know. You are correct. I'm just pointing out reality to you chum.

    Go ahead, leave out the fashion designers and the actress and the social workers.

    See how long it takes you to be branded a homophobe a misogynist and a racist.

    🙂

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    yeah well we're gonna have to. Fashion design is all nice and stuff, but it can't be heavily subsidized if at all. I dunno, maybe if this country finally got a clue and brought back hemp we could have a thriving textile industry again and fashion designers could be more useful designing more normal clothes. So what i'm getting it is that what today seems not useful could theoretically be useful in the future. So there has to be a periodic re examination of what subsidize and what we don't. It's all on business's and what they need.

    I know. You are correct. I'm just pointing out reality to you chum.

    Go ahead, leave out the fashion designers and the actress and the social workers.

    See how long it takes you to be branded a homophobe a misogynist and a racist.

    🙂

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I know. You are correct. I'm just pointing out reality to you chum.

    Go ahead, leave out the fashion designers and the actress and the social workers.

    See how long it takes you to be branded a homophobe a misogynist and a racist.

    🙂

    WSS

    oh well waddya gonna do? as long as we can finally get some solid talent in the meteorology sciences that confirm what most of us smart folk have already sniffed out for ourselves, than all's well that ends well right?

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    @axe said:

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    Bernie Sanders is a fucking idiot. What intelligent human being could possibly go to fucking Al the race baiting crook Sharpton?

  • @axe said:

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    Bernie Sanders is a fucking idiot. What intelligent human being could possibly go to fucking Al the race baiting crook Sharpton?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Bernie Sanders is a fucking idiot. What intelligent human being could possibly go to fucking Al the race baiting crook Sharpton?

    Pandering for black votes. Pretty simple. Hillary presumes she has black people in the bag from her husband's connections.