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  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

    +1

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    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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    @oldbrownsfan said:

    +1

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

    Jeff Sessions is "the guy" that conservatives including Cruz worship and look up to.

    Nobody likes Cruz because he's a loud mouth who shuts down the government over planned parenthood costing the country billions, then he doesn't show up to work otherwise or do anything else.

    Cruz isn't a political outsider anyway, people just don't like him. His wife was on the national security committee with Condoleeza under GW Bush (disaster), Cruz was the brains behind a lot of GW Bush's domestic policy on legal matters, now his wife has a cushy position with Goldman Sachs.

    Cruz is the establishment - his colleagues just don't like him because he's a loud mouth with a punchable face..

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      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Cruz calls McConnell a Democrat

      http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/cruz-mcconnell-democrat-215372

      If there is a poster child for the establishment republicans it is Mitchell McConnell and Cruz has been a thorn in his side. Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

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        Cruz calls McConnell a Democrat

        http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/cruz-mcconnell-democrat-215372

        If there is a poster child for the establishment republicans it is Mitchell McConnell and Cruz has been a thorn in his side. Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        @oldbrownsfan said:

        Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

        Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

        McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

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          @oldbrownsfan said:

          Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

          Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

          McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          @bbedward said:

          Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

          McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

          Not wrong -

          5 times Ted Cruz went to war with the Republican establishment

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/22/5-times-ted-cruz-went-to-war-with-the-republican-establishment/

          Ted Cruz Starts to Crack G.O.P. Establishment’s Wall of Opposition

          "The vast majority of Republican elites remain bitterly opposed to the prospect of Mr. Cruz’s becoming the party’s presidential nominee, some even preferring to take their chances with Donald J. Trump."

          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-starts-to-crack-gop-establishments-wall-of-opposition.html?_r=0

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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            That's because nobody likes him and he's unelectable, but he's still the establishment. You don't work closely with George Bush and help create the disasters in Iraq, take more money than all the republican rivals sans Bush, get kickbacks from goldman sachs and get the title "anti-establishment"

            Cruz stands in the senate and yells the 10% of the time he actually shows up - wasting everybody's time, then he leaves and says he fought the good fight.

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

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                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                Don't fight it - it's Trump V Hillary

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                  Don't fight it - it's Trump V Hillary

                  **************************************

                  I hope it's Trump versus Hillary and not *with* Hillary. There has been some speculation that Trump's good pal Bill Clinton actually talked Trump into running on the republican ticket for president.

                  Report: Bill Clinton called Trump ahead of campaign launch

                  "Trump spoke with Clinton from his office in New York, and the former president encouraged the celebrity real estate developer to play a larger role in the GOP, four Trump allies told the Post.

                  While the call was one of "many" the pair have had over the years, the Post said, it reportedly came weeks after Hillary Clinton declared her own White House, becoming the Democratic frontrunner."
                  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/250356-report-bill-clinton-called-trump-ahead-of-campaign
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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    Trump is the only one who talks about the shady past of Bill and Hillary regarding the sex abuse and potentially illegitimate child and such - I think it's pretty obvious he's not with Hillary.

                    Even if people don't like Trump, they should turn into single issue voters in regards to the TPP - that everybody supports except for Trump (and Sanders but nobody is showing up to vote for Sanders). I think Trump is the only one with a legitimate chance at stopping it. Probably the biggest issue this election.

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                    • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

                      @vaportrail said:

                      We'll still hear "No true conservative" arguments against it.

                      Go back from whence you came, rato. Take your tea party beliefs with you. Rubio is next to be stumped.

                      I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

                      The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

                        The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @vaportrail said:

                        The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

                        That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

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                          @vaportrail said:

                          The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

                          That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

                          But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                          They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                          I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

                            But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                            They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                            I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

                            WSS

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                            They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                            I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

                            WSS

                            I can support Trump's current position on Planned Parenthood which is to continue funding Planned Parenthood only if they quit doing abortions and focus on other women's health issues:

                            About the abortion business, Trump said he opposes taxpayer funding but added, “It does do wonderful things but not as it relates to abortion.”

                            Trump then added that “there are wonderful things having to do with women’s health” when it comes to Planned Parenthood, “but not when it comes to abortion.”

                            While he had said he supports de-funding the abortion company if it refuses to stop doing abortions, Trump’s repeated comments that Planned Parenthood does some “wonderful things” will raise eyebrows with pro-life voters.

                            http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/14/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-does-wonderful-things-but-not-when-it-comes-to-abortion/

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                              @logicisforsquares said:

                              OBF, why do you think evangelicals went with Trump over Cruz? Nothing in Trump's behavior screams Evangelical Christian and he really hasn't talked about policy outside of pie-in-the-sky plans with Mexico paying for a border wall.

                              Didn't Barack Obama win a good portion of the evangelistic vote? Didn't he join a Fundamentalist Church in Chicago to help him win votes? Then how well did he serve the wishes of the Christian community? How well has any President served the wishes of the Christian community?

                              It stands to reason that whether you pray 10 times a day or are a devout atheist sooner or later you realize the president can't implement a theocracy so it's best to vote for someone who will manage the country. Jimmy Carter was a Christian.

                              But the term tea party sets off a Pavlovian bell for some people.

                              WSS

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Didn't Barack Obama win a good portion of the evangelistic vote? Didn't he join a Fundamentalist Church in Chicago to help him win votes? Then how well did he serve the wishes of the Christian community? How well has any President served the wishes of the Christian community?

                              It stands to reason that whether you pray 10 times a day or are a devout atheist sooner or later you realize the president can't implement a theocracy so it's best to vote for someone who will manage the country. Jimmy Carter was a Christian.

                              But the term tea party sets off a Pavlovian bell for some people.

                              WSS

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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

                                OBF, why do you think evangelicals went with Trump over Cruz? Nothing in Trump's behavior screams Evangelical Christian and he really hasn't talked about policy outside of pie-in-the-sky plans with Mexico paying for a border wall.

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                OBF, why do you think evangelicals went with Trump over Cruz? Nothing in Trump's behavior screams Evangelical Christian and he really hasn't talked about policy outside of pie-in-the-sky plans with Mexico paying for a border wall.

                                There are many Christians who don't support Trump and I spoke to a few of them who will either write in a candidate or not vote at all then to vote for Trump. You don't have to know that much about Christianity to realize Trump doesn't know the first thing about the bible. When he says as a Christian he never saw the need to ask for forgiveness he may be the first Christian on record ever making that claim. I can think of Trump's prior support of partial birth abortions as a good place to start in asking for forgiveness.

                                Popular Christian Media Outlet Breaks Tradition With Brutal, First-Ever Presidential Stance: ‘Donald Trump Is a Scam’

                                http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/29/popular-christian-media-outlet-breaks-tradition-with-brutal-first-ever-presidential-stance-donald-trump-is-a-scam/

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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

                                  But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                                  They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                                  I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                                  WSS

                                  Ted Cruz

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                                    WSS

                                    Ted Cruz

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                                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                    @vaportrail said:

                                    Ted Cruz

                                    There's been Ted Cruz's before. They like the talking point and voter block - they'll never do anything about abortion.

                                    Kasich is the only one who has actually done something about it in the race - clinics and women just have to jump through a bunch more hoops now basically. There's some speculation many just hop the border and go to Michigan.

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