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Ted Cruz on suicide watch

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

    OBF, why do you think evangelicals went with Trump over Cruz? Nothing in Trump's behavior screams Evangelical Christian and he really hasn't talked about policy outside of pie-in-the-sky plans with Mexico paying for a border wall.

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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    @logicisforsquares said:

    OBF, why do you think evangelicals went with Trump over Cruz? Nothing in Trump's behavior screams Evangelical Christian and he really hasn't talked about policy outside of pie-in-the-sky plans with Mexico paying for a border wall.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I think it's because cruz's campaign went dirty vs Dr. Ben Carson.

    That really turned me off with supporting him. I'm afraid that Trump

    will be very different were he get to be pres. Maybe excellent, maybe

    bad.

    Obamao chose, "very, very corrupt and opposite of how he portrayed himself"...

    after he dishonestly manipulated so many to vote for him.

    Is Trump who he really portrays himself as? He may very well be.

    Obamao has failed to screw over enough people to get his demands met.

    Cruz's obstinency in Conress was admirable, because so many just are cowardly sheep when

    it comes to fighting the left.

    Trump doesn't seem to be any kind of sheep, and he's saying the flat out statements a lot of

    people are saying. If Trump is being honest, he may finally be the president most everybody on the

    right and middle want.

    The left had their eight miserable, corrupt, broken promises/hidden agenda obamao for going on eight years.

    Hell with them and their misguided arrogance and lack of principles, lack of respect for our Constitution, etc.

    I think the Cruz campaign falsely telling Carson voters in Iowa that Carson was dropping out of the race was a part of it. It upset me.

    I also think some people have in their minds that everything Trump touches turns to gold but his bankruptcies and failed Trump University show otherwise.

    If Trump wins the nomination I'll support him. As far as I'm concerned the establishment republicans made a big fuss with Trump to get on board and promise to support whomever wins the republican nomination and they should now do the same with supporting whomever wins the primaries even if it is Trump as the republican voters have spoken.

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      This is literally the last nail in the Cruz coffin.

      Sessions is the most "ideologically comparable" person to Cruz in the Senate.

      And he still endorsed Trump...just goes to show you how much Cruz's colleagues literally hate him.

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      @bbedward said:

      This is literally the last nail in the Cruz coffin.

      Sessions is the most "ideologically comparable" person to Cruz in the Senate.

      And he still endorsed Trump...just goes to show you how much Cruz's colleagues literally hate him.

      So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

      :neutral_face:
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        @bbedward said:

        This is literally the last nail in the Cruz coffin.

        Sessions is the most "ideologically comparable" person to Cruz in the Senate.

        And he still endorsed Trump...just goes to show you how much Cruz's colleagues literally hate him.

        So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        @pumpkin-eater said:

        So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

        +1

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          P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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          Mexico will pay for the wall in ten years if you tax US dollars being wired to Mexico at a mere 4% more.

          :neutral_face:
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            Mexico will pay for the wall in ten years if you tax US dollars being wired to Mexico at a mere 4% more.

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @pumpkin-eater said:

            Mexico will pay for the wall in ten years if you tax US dollars being wired to Mexico at a mere 4% more.

            After being lied to by the establishment GOP for decades with their empty talk about securing the border I think Trump if elected president will get the border secured. The problem has always been that both parties have wanted an open border for different reasons. The democrats wanted a new voting block and the chamber of commerce republicans wanted the cheap labor.

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              And that's trumps appeal in a nutshell. He is standing for the regular guy, not the rich or special interest groups.

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                And that's trumps appeal in a nutshell. He is standing for the regular guy, not the rich or special interest groups.

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                @pumpkin-eater said:

                And that's trumps appeal in a nutshell. He is standing for the regular guy, not the rich or special interest groups.

                Unless you count himself as a rich or special interest group.

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                  @pumpkin-eater said:

                  So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

                  +1

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  +1

                  @pumpkin-eater said:

                  So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

                  Jeff Sessions is "the guy" that conservatives including Cruz worship and look up to.

                  Nobody likes Cruz because he's a loud mouth who shuts down the government over planned parenthood costing the country billions, then he doesn't show up to work otherwise or do anything else.

                  Cruz isn't a political outsider anyway, people just don't like him. His wife was on the national security committee with Condoleeza under GW Bush (disaster), Cruz was the brains behind a lot of GW Bush's domestic policy on legal matters, now his wife has a cushy position with Goldman Sachs.

                  Cruz is the establishment - his colleagues just don't like him because he's a loud mouth with a punchable face..

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    Cruz calls McConnell a Democrat

                    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/cruz-mcconnell-democrat-215372

                    If there is a poster child for the establishment republicans it is Mitchell McConnell and Cruz has been a thorn in his side. Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

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                      Cruz calls McConnell a Democrat

                      http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/cruz-mcconnell-democrat-215372

                      If there is a poster child for the establishment republicans it is Mitchell McConnell and Cruz has been a thorn in his side. Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

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                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

                      Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

                      McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

                        Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

                        McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @bbedward said:

                        Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

                        McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

                        Not wrong -

                        5 times Ted Cruz went to war with the Republican establishment

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/22/5-times-ted-cruz-went-to-war-with-the-republican-establishment/

                        Ted Cruz Starts to Crack G.O.P. Establishment’s Wall of Opposition

                        "The vast majority of Republican elites remain bitterly opposed to the prospect of Mr. Cruz’s becoming the party’s presidential nominee, some even preferring to take their chances with Donald J. Trump."

                        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-starts-to-crack-gop-establishments-wall-of-opposition.html?_r=0

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                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                          That's because nobody likes him and he's unelectable, but he's still the establishment. You don't work closely with George Bush and help create the disasters in Iraq, take more money than all the republican rivals sans Bush, get kickbacks from goldman sachs and get the title "anti-establishment"

                          Cruz stands in the senate and yells the 10% of the time he actually shows up - wasting everybody's time, then he leaves and says he fought the good fight.

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                              Don't fight it - it's Trump V Hillary

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                Don't fight it - it's Trump V Hillary

                                **************************************

                                I hope it's Trump versus Hillary and not *with* Hillary. There has been some speculation that Trump's good pal Bill Clinton actually talked Trump into running on the republican ticket for president.

                                Report: Bill Clinton called Trump ahead of campaign launch

                                "Trump spoke with Clinton from his office in New York, and the former president encouraged the celebrity real estate developer to play a larger role in the GOP, four Trump allies told the Post.

                                While the call was one of "many" the pair have had over the years, the Post said, it reportedly came weeks after Hillary Clinton declared her own White House, becoming the Democratic frontrunner."
                                http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/250356-report-bill-clinton-called-trump-ahead-of-campaign
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                                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                  Trump is the only one who talks about the shady past of Bill and Hillary regarding the sex abuse and potentially illegitimate child and such - I think it's pretty obvious he's not with Hillary.

                                  Even if people don't like Trump, they should turn into single issue voters in regards to the TPP - that everybody supports except for Trump (and Sanders but nobody is showing up to vote for Sanders). I think Trump is the only one with a legitimate chance at stopping it. Probably the biggest issue this election.

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                                    @vaportrail said:

                                    We'll still hear "No true conservative" arguments against it.

                                    Go back from whence you came, rato. Take your tea party beliefs with you. Rubio is next to be stumped.

                                    I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

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                                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

                                    The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

                                      The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @vaportrail said:

                                      The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

                                      That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

                                        That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

                                        But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                                        They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                                        I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

                                          But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                                          They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                                          I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

                                          WSS

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          But there's no need to be a lunatic about this, yes Planned Parenthood performs some valuable services.

                                          They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

                                          I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

                                          WSS

                                          I can support Trump's current position on Planned Parenthood which is to continue funding Planned Parenthood only if they quit doing abortions and focus on other women's health issues:

                                          About the abortion business, Trump said he opposes taxpayer funding but added, “It does do wonderful things but not as it relates to abortion.”

                                          Trump then added that “there are wonderful things having to do with women’s health” when it comes to Planned Parenthood, “but not when it comes to abortion.”

                                          While he had said he supports de-funding the abortion company if it refuses to stop doing abortions, Trump’s repeated comments that Planned Parenthood does some “wonderful things” will raise eyebrows with pro-life voters.

                                          http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/14/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-does-wonderful-things-but-not-when-it-comes-to-abortion/

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