Browns Kaepernick Rumors
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Absolutely. But I think Hue will wait until we get Kaep then see if they can get a few FA's for the Oline. Might be a patch work for center or RT, but we still have the draft.
Absolutely. But I think Hue will wait until we get Kaep then see if they can get a few FA's for the Oline. Might be a patch work for center or RT, but we still have the draft.
possibly patchwork, but perhaps here already: Thomas, Pasztor, Erving, Greco, Bitonio?
alternate: Thomas, Pasztor, Bitonio, Greco, Erving?
After losing guys like Mack and Schwartz who didn't want to be in Cle and went to noncontenders imo, envisioning this potential lineup made me feel a little better at least. not totally horrible on paper. cheap too. and possibly a better run blocking line.
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Absolutely. But I think Hue will wait until we get Kaep then see if they can get a few FA's for the Oline. Might be a patch work for center or RT, but we still have the draft.
possibly patchwork, but perhaps here already: Thomas, Pasztor, Erving, Greco, Bitonio?
alternate: Thomas, Pasztor, Bitonio, Greco, Erving?
After losing guys like Mack and Schwartz who didn't want to be in Cle and went to noncontenders imo, envisioning this potential lineup made me feel a little better at least. not totally horrible on paper. cheap too. and possibly a better run blocking line.
possibly patchwork, but perhaps here already: Thomas, Pasztor, Erving, Greco, Bitonio?
alternate: Thomas, Pasztor, Bitonio, Greco, Erving?
After losing guys like Mack and Schwartz who didn't want to be in Cle and went to noncontenders imo, envisioning this potential lineup made me feel a little better at least. not horrible on paper at least. cheap too. and possibly a better run blocking line.
We WILL draft a tackle. No way you go into the season with that lineup. Not a sexy pick, but if Tunsil is available don't be surprised if he's the pick. Although, it's more likely around rds. 2-4 IMO.
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If the Browns are working hard to get Kap, you can rest assured they are not sold on the prospect of drafting Goff or Wentz
Precisely....and I assume that they will divert their attention elsewhere.
If the Browns don't draft one of those guys....who will? Dallas? Rams?
Yeah...I dont know where teams rank these guys.....after watching Rodgers drop to the bottom and Russell go #1, who knows what they'll do.....
I do think, they wouldnt make a trade for a guy like Kap and still pick one high.....and if they were "sold" that one of those guys was a franchise QB, then this wouldnt be happening today.....
I do think, they wouldnt make a trade for a guy like Kap and still pick one high.....and if they were "sold" that one of those guys was a franchise QB, then this wouldnt be happening today.....
after 17 yrs w/out a franchise QB you can't imagine an overkill situation where they would hedge their bets out of sheer desperation to improve their odds at solidifying the position once and for all?
it is a billion dollar company trying to win a trophy that hinges upon strong play at the QB position after all...
normally i would agree Mud but it's time they got it right regardless of how unorthodox or overboard it is. in fact deep down i really hope they do. can ya tell?

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And dump Davis and Shaw. Not a good idea.
I'll repost this if we wind up with Kap make that Crap. For all you Kap pumpers- just remember THIS
Kaepernick got beat out by Blaine Freaking GABBERT. So cool your jets over this bum.
Ghoolie would approve of this message.
The whole "Ghoolie would approve this message" part kinda makes me hope we do it now. Worst case he's DA with wheels, best case he's DA circa 07 with wheels.
I could live with a 3rd rounder for him. Not excited, but not pissed either. Then again, I'm not completely sold on any of the QB's in the draft, so there's that.
The whole "Ghoolie would approve this message" part kinda makes me hope we do it now. Worst case he's DA with wheels, best case he's DA circa 07 with wheels.
I could live with a 3rd rounder for him. Not excited, but not pissed either. Then again, I'm not completely sold on any of the QB's in the draft, so there's that.
I don't often agree with Ghoolie. I was having fun with the Ghoolie political disclaimer, but the above sure as shit scares the hell out of me. You want to talk DA? Possibly it might be the same scenario. Kap has been figured out by opposing defensive coordinators. That makes him essentially worthless. Hue might think he can do a serious reclamation project- but if you can't go through your progressions, and read defenses after 4 years as a starter in the NFL- you're never going to get "it".
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if this team gets Kaep.. I may as well hang up My fandom for this team... No football men to even run the thing... Im at a loss for words.. but Im beginning to build a personal hate for My beloved Brownns because the only thing theyre good at is doing everything totally the wrong way..
if this team gets Kaep.. I may as well hang up My fandom for this team... No football men to even run the thing... Im at a loss for words.. but Im beginning to build a personal hate for My beloved Brownns because the only thing theyre good at is doing everything totally the wrong way..
because there's an exact science to building a winner, right?
have some faith, just let go...
all we can do is hope realistically, and doubt won't help build it any faster.
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If this goes through, it tells you exactly what Hue thought of Wentz/Goff.
If this goes through, it tells you exactly what Hue thought of Wentz/Goff.
no it illustrates the new Browns brass understand the importance of the QB position and the value of structuring contracts that are sustainable. i believe (and hope) they are still looking at taking a QB early.
the Browns 3rd is essentially a late 2nd, pretty good backup if the $$ makes sense.
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possibly patchwork, but perhaps here already: Thomas, Pasztor, Erving, Greco, Bitonio?
alternate: Thomas, Pasztor, Bitonio, Greco, Erving?
After losing guys like Mack and Schwartz who didn't want to be in Cle and went to noncontenders imo, envisioning this potential lineup made me feel a little better at least. not horrible on paper at least. cheap too. and possibly a better run blocking line.
We WILL draft a tackle. No way you go into the season with that lineup. Not a sexy pick, but if Tunsil is available don't be surprised if he's the pick. Although, it's more likely around rds. 2-4 IMO.
We WILL draft a tackle. No way you go into the season with that lineup. Not a sexy pick, but if Tunsil is available don't be surprised if he's the pick. Although, it's more likely around rds. 2-4 IMO.
betcha a 6'er they don't. not because i don't think they will, but more because i can afford it and like to cheers beers with peers.
to be crystal, he would need to be a pure OT, not a utility guy like Erv for you to win.
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We WILL draft a tackle. No way you go into the season with that lineup. Not a sexy pick, but if Tunsil is available don't be surprised if he's the pick. Although, it's more likely around rds. 2-4 IMO.
betcha a 6'er they don't. not because i don't think they will, but more because i can afford it and like to cheers beers with peers.
to be crystal, he would need to be a pure OT, not a utility guy like Erv for you to win.
betcha a 6'er they don't. not because i don't think they will, but more because i can afford it and like to cheers beers with peers.
to be crystal, he would need to be a pure OT, not a utility guy like Erv for you to win.
I'd have bet a bottle of Don Julio on it, but free beer tastes good too. I'll take your beer, I mean bet.
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betcha a 6'er they don't. not because i don't think they will, but more because i can afford it and like to cheers beers with peers.
to be crystal, he would need to be a pure OT, not a utility guy like Erv for you to win.
I'd have bet a bottle of Don Julio on it, but free beer tastes good too. I'll take your beer, I mean bet.
I'd have bet a bottle of Don Julio on it, but free beer tastes good too. I'll take your beer, I mean bet.
i'd take the Don Julio ante if i liked my own terms more lol. that and it's hard to invest more when i genuinely do hope there is a bpa OT sitting there for us to snag up somewhere on draft day.
a stadium beer 6 pack and quite a few craft brews today would actually cost more than the DJ (!), so just to finalize how about we set a $20-ish ceiling? good?
hopefully we can collect in person a few hrs before a Browns win.
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they gave him a deal for that much money??????
they actually should give US a third rounder to take him
off their hands.
He won't give up half that to go to the Browns....
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bored silly So, Kap & Wentz in combine numbers similar, both 6'5" Kap -233/237lbs. hands Wentz-10"/ 9 1/8. 40 time Kap-4.53/4.77. vert.Kap-32 1/2/ /30 1/2. broad-Wentz-118"/115". 3 cone Kap-6.85/6.86 Goff-6'4-215 hands 9"- 40 time 4.82. vert.27". Broad 110" 3 cone-7.17
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Well...if we end up with McCown, Kap and Goff/Wentz the fans will be very confused about which one to chant for......
While it might sound like a good idea on paper, Id rather pick a guy and commit for a minute....but with 3 potential starters??? talk about your QB controversies......
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I'd have bet a bottle of Don Julio on it, but free beer tastes good too. I'll take your beer, I mean bet.
i'd take the Don Julio ante if i liked my own terms more lol. that and it's hard to invest more when i genuinely do hope there is a bpa OT sitting there for us to snag up somewhere on draft day.
a stadium beer 6 pack and quite a few craft brews today would actually cost more than the DJ (!), so just to finalize how about we set a $20-ish ceiling? good?
hopefully we can collect in person a few hrs before a Browns win.
i'd take the Don Julio ante if i liked my own terms more lol. that and it's hard to invest more when i genuinely do hope there is a bpa OT sitting there for us to snag up somewhere on draft day.
a stadium beer 6 pack and quite a few craft brews today would actually cost more than the DJ (!), so just to finalize how about we set a $20-ish ceiling? good?
hopefully we can collect in person a few hrs before a Browns win.
Deal.
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Like I said in another post, the Browns still want either Goff or Wentz. We know Josh McCown cant stay healthy. So the way I see it, we Kaep in FA, but start Josh. If and when he goes down, we bring in Kaep. This way Goff or Wentz can sit the pine for the season and learn.
And dump Davis and Shaw. Not a good idea.
Why do I feel like the same people who were on the Manziel hype train are the same one's who want Kap? You guys are suckers for name value, Kap is absolute garbage. The only reason SF went to that SB was because they had the best defense in football, an elite OL, prime Frank Gore, and a killer zone read scheme from Jim Harbaugh that that treated Kap like the gimmick that he is.
Kap has not and never will be able to run a pro style offense, his progressions, decision making, football IQ, and mechanics are all terrible.
I'll repost this if we wind up with Kap make that Crap. For all you Kap pumpers- just remember THIS
Kaepernick got beat out by Blaine Freaking GABBERT. So cool your jets over this bum.
Ghoolie would approve of this message.
And dump Davis and Shaw. Not a good idea.
I'll repost this if we wind up with Kap make that Crap. For all you Kap pumpers- just remember THIS
Kaepernick got beat out by Blaine Freaking GABBERT. So cool your jets over this bum.
Ghoolie would approve of this message.
Obviously you don't watch the 49ers. Last season was part Kaep, part 49ers organization. And to all Wentz pumpers remember that his best victory was vs Northern Iowa.
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Well...if we end up with McCown, Kap and Goff/Wentz the fans will be very confused about which one to chant for......
While it might sound like a good idea on paper, Id rather pick a guy and commit for a minute....but with 3 potential starters??? talk about your QB controversies......
So who do you expect to Mentor the rookie? Josh or one of the biggest assholes in the league?Well...if we end up with McCown, Kap and Goff/Wentz the fans will be very confused about which one to chant for......
While it might sound like a good idea on paper, Id rather pick a guy and commit for a minute....but with 3 potential starters??? talk about your QB controversies......
(but I would not bet on a high quarterback pick if these guys are enamored with that scumbag)
WSS
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I don't know the role they would want him for but in the right system he can thrive. The only thing I am sure of is that he would be better than Manziel on the roster another year which we finally don't have to worry about.
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So who do you expect to Mentor the rookie? Josh or one of the biggest assholes in the league?Well...if we end up with McCown, Kap and Goff/Wentz the fans will be very confused about which one to chant for......
While it might sound like a good idea on paper, Id rather pick a guy and commit for a minute....but with 3 potential starters??? talk about your QB controversies......
(but I would not bet on a high quarterback pick if these guys are enamored with that scumbag)
WSS
So who do you expect to Mentor the rookie? Josh or one of the biggest assholes in the league?
(but I would not bet on a high quarterback pick if these guys are enamored with that scumbag)
WSS
we're in the same boat......Id want Josh and a rookie.....no need to sign Kap if we are picking a QB in the draft.....
And if we sign Kap....(or Fitzy)(or anybody else ftm)....then no need to pick one this year.....
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So who do you expect to Mentor the rookie? Josh or one of the biggest assholes in the league?
(but I would not bet on a high quarterback pick if these guys are enamored with that scumbag)
WSS
we're in the same boat......Id want Josh and a rookie.....no need to sign Kap if we are picking a QB in the draft.....
And if we sign Kap....(or Fitzy)(or anybody else ftm)....then no need to pick one this year.....
we're in the same boat......Id want Josh and a rookie.....no need to sign Kap if we are picking a QB in the draft.....
And if we sign Kap....(or Fitzy)(or anybody else ftm)....then no need to pick one this year.....or
Kap is JM 2.0 taller and without the liquor store. Unable to make the adjustment to pocket passer. And doesn't this go against the new philosophy of build through the draft and not waste $ for FA's (or in this case giving away a draft pick + $)? And if we take Kap anyway, then concentrate on the D in the draft and not another QB.
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we're in the same boat......Id want Josh and a rookie.....no need to sign Kap if we are picking a QB in the draft.....
And if we sign Kap....(or Fitzy)(or anybody else ftm)....then no need to pick one this year.....or
Kap is JM 2.0 taller and without the liquor store. Unable to make the adjustment to pocket passer. And doesn't this go against the new philosophy of build through the draft and not waste $ for FA's (or in this case giving away a draft pick + $)? And if we take Kap anyway, then concentrate on the D in the draft and not another QB.
Kap is JM 2.0 taller and without the liquor store. Unable to make the adjustment to pocket passer. And doesn't this go against the new philosophy of build through the draft and not waste $ for FA's (or in this case giving away a draft pick + $)? And if we take Kap anyway, then concentrate on the D in the draft and not another QB.
Now this is crazy. I don't want to be the Colin Kaepernick fan club captain but over 2 1/2 years he completed 60% of his passes for 50 TDs 21 INTs, rushed for another 10 TDs and played in a Super Bowl. I don't think he is Joe Montana by any stretch but @ $10 million guaranteed he is worth the risk.
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