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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Zombo said:

    This is the moneyball stuff.

    Bingo... and so is Dansby's release...

    @gftchris said:

    I'll assume that's a good thing 😉

    I agree, a bunch of 'scrappy' hard working solid football players, sprinkled with some stardust in the form of Haden, Shelton and maybe someone like Bosa or Buckner, could make us a very competitive team.

    No... It won't. Just stop it.... We will not be competitive in 2016... not by design... not even by accident.

    This is a complete tear down. No more straddling the fence with one foot on the rebuild side and one on the salvage some competitiveness side. All that has done is bruised our balls repeatedly...

    This is a tear-it-down, take all the pressure off of the staff because we understand they cannot win, year...

    And the tear down is not yet complete...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #44

    @tour2ma said:

    Bingo... and so is Dansby's release...

    No... It won't. Just stop it.... We will not be competitive in 2016... not by design... not even by accident.

    This is a complete tear down. No more straddling the fence with one foot on the rebuild side and one on the salvage some competitiveness side. All that has done is bruised our balls repeatedly...

    This is a tear-it-down, take all the pressure off of the staff because we understand they cannot win, year...

    And the tear down is not yet complete...

    Which means we get to add that "other" Aggie next year. The one who is the best defender since Von Miller and far more dedicated player than the 2014 overall #1.

    W 1 Reply
  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #45

    It's only a complete rebuild if they drop all the players on the current team.

    Come on, it's a change in philosophy on how to build the Browns into a winner.

    there will be some major turnover, but addition by subtraction is not the case.

    Taking two steps back and one step forward is going backwards, and that's

    how I see the dumb idea of trading Joe Thomas...unless he requests a trade.

    OsirisO 1 Reply
  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #46

    I hope the Browns still keep Robertson... but from what I read, he is a restricted fa... with whatever tender?

    ...and if another team signs him... the Browns have to match it, or they get no compensation pick from it?

    how the heck does that work.

    Anyways, he was signed as a fa, I guess. so... but thanks to Robertson for the interceptions.

    Note- the stinking cheapshot steeler tearing the helmet off the Browns defensive player on the return
    at the top of the screen at the end of it..... "waaaaaaaaaa, no fair, you intercepted our rapistbooger's pass,
    hey REF !!!!!! "
  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #47

    he was a RFA last year. This year just UFA.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    Bingo... and so is Dansby's release...

    No... It won't. Just stop it.... We will not be competitive in 2016... not by design... not even by accident.

    This is a complete tear down. No more straddling the fence with one foot on the rebuild side and one on the salvage some competitiveness side. All that has done is bruised our balls repeatedly...

    This is a tear-it-down, take all the pressure off of the staff because we understand they cannot win, year...

    And the tear down is not yet complete...

    Which means we get to add that "other" Aggie next year. The one who is the best defender since Von Miller and far more dedicated player than the 2014 overall #1.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #48

    @texasag1969 said:

    Which means we get to add that "other" Aggie next year. The one who is the best defender since Von Miller and far more dedicated player than the 2014 overall #1.

    The one that's not a 3-4 guy.

    T 1 Reply
  • C calfoxwc

    It's only a complete rebuild if they drop all the players on the current team.

    Come on, it's a change in philosophy on how to build the Browns into a winner.

    there will be some major turnover, but addition by subtraction is not the case.

    Taking two steps back and one step forward is going backwards, and that's

    how I see the dumb idea of trading Joe Thomas...unless he requests a trade.

    OsirisO Osiris wrote on
    #49

    @calfoxwc said:

    It's only a complete rebuild if they drop all the players on the current team.

    I think you are taking me a bit too literally. They aren't going to drop guys who are young and have contracts they deem appropriate for their ability.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
  • W wargograw

    @texasag1969 said:

    Which means we get to add that "other" Aggie next year. The one who is the best defender since Von Miller and far more dedicated player than the 2014 overall #1.

    The one that's not a 3-4 guy.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #50

    @wargograw said:

    The one that's not a 3-4 guy.

    Doesn't matter. Easily converts. Sometimes played out of the tackle spot to confuse the blockers. Has the speed to convert to OLB if needed. If the Browns are in position to take him next year they would be fools indeed to pass him up.

    W 1 Reply
  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on
    #51

    i like this signing.

    Craig, you played hard for us. thank you, good luck, and best wishes ahead.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @wargograw said:

    The one that's not a 3-4 guy.

    Doesn't matter. Easily converts. Sometimes played out of the tackle spot to confuse the blockers. Has the speed to convert to OLB if needed. If the Browns are in position to take him next year they would be fools indeed to pass him up.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #52

    @texasag1969 said:

    Doesn't matter. Easily converts. Sometimes played out of the tackle spot to confuse the blockers. Has the speed to convert to OLB if needed. If the Browns are in position to take him next year they would be fools indeed to pass him up.

    Eh. He's an enormous talent, to be sure. But last season was a disappointment. We'll see if he earns his money in this, his contract year. There's also a lot more than speed to playing OLB. Not a lot of 6'5" skinny dudes playing OLB (or 3-4 DE, for that matter). It's just not a fit and you should give up on this now, honestly.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Zombo said:

    This is the moneyball stuff.

    Bingo... and so is Dansby's release...

    @gftchris said:

    I'll assume that's a good thing 😉

    I agree, a bunch of 'scrappy' hard working solid football players, sprinkled with some stardust in the form of Haden, Shelton and maybe someone like Bosa or Buckner, could make us a very competitive team.

    No... It won't. Just stop it.... We will not be competitive in 2016... not by design... not even by accident.

    This is a complete tear down. No more straddling the fence with one foot on the rebuild side and one on the salvage some competitiveness side. All that has done is bruised our balls repeatedly...

    This is a tear-it-down, take all the pressure off of the staff because we understand they cannot win, year...

    And the tear down is not yet complete...

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #53

    @tour2ma said:

    Bingo... and so is Dansby's release...

    No... It won't. Just stop it.... We will not be competitive in 2016... not by design... not even by accident.

    This is a complete tear down. No more straddling the fence with one foot on the rebuild side and one on the salvage some competitiveness side. All that has done is bruised our balls repeatedly...

    This is a tear-it-down, take all the pressure off of the staff because we understand they cannot win, year...

    And the tear down is not yet complete...

    Yeah, not expecting that competitiveness to manifest this year. Expecting another double-digit loss season, with some glimmer of hope from some good young players that need to grow in to the game together. Adding 3-4 solid contibutors/starters from the draft would be a good start. Then doing it again the next year...

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #54

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    T Tour2maT hoortaH 3 Replies
  • C calfoxwc

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #55

    @calfoxwc said:

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    Think I will wait to see what the final roster looks like. We ain't done cookin' the books yet.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Not sure why they sat him....but if they did, he was still the Jets #2 tackler....on a team FULL of great defensive players.....and if he did that playing part time, then Im down....

    Dont expect to be spectacular. Just, hopefully, an upgrade over Robinson and an improvement to our run D.....

    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on
    #56

    @mudfly said:

    Not sure why they sat him....but if they did, he was still the Jets #2 tackler....on a team FULL of great defensive players.....and if he did that playing part time, then Im down....

    Dont expect to be spectacular. Just, hopefully, an upgrade over Robinson and an improvement to our run D.....

    You pretty much nailed it. I really think his playing style is what we need. Our coaches need to get the most out of our players, and Craig's skillset wasn't exactly a perfect match for what we needed. I don't know why they sat him either, as the coach stated he didn't have an issue with his play. I like the fact that he's in his prime age too. Here's hoping for the best.

  • C calfoxwc

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #57

    @calfoxwc said:

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    I thought your pain meds were long gone...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • C calfoxwc

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #58

    @calfoxwc said:

    I think we shouldn't be surprised if the Browns actually win at least one more game than

    last year. Who's with me ? 😎

    Right now? Sorry Cal. To just break even we need to replace 5 starters in the upcoming draft with players that are at least as good, if not better to show any improvement. Lotsa luck there, unless you're hoping for the miracle the Steelers pulled off drafting 4 HOFers in one year. (Usually one draft class in total doesn't produce that many)

    @texasag1969 said:

    Think I will wait to see what the final roster looks like. We ain't done cookin' the books yet.

    You mean dumping old overpriced players? Adios Whitner, come on down Ifo.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #59

    What the move away from Dansby and Robertson to Davis has done on paper is improve our run stopping.

    It is normal for paired ILBs to have different skill sets. One is often stronger vs run while the other is the better coverage guy.

    What we had were 3 ILBs, all of whom were to varying degrees better coverage LBs.

    Now we don't...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @the-gipper said:

    To me "around the team" means the people that are inside the organization. Players/coaches/FO types. etc. Writers and media pundits are still outsiders.

    I mean, the garbage collectors in Berea are "around the team". That doesn't give them any cred for what happens inside the team's walls.

    And I am the fucking grammar police? lol...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #60

    @tour2ma said:

    And I am the fucking grammar police? lol...

    That is not grammar....that is content, meaning, application.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #61

    Well, you have to consider that the Browns will probably pick up a few more players

    in fa yet.

    And the draft, you draft like I would:

    1. Wentz

    2. Cody Whitehair, OG/T Kansas State

    Tremendous upside, could even play center...possibly

    3. Kamalei Correa, Boise State lb (might have to trade up about 4 slots)

    I like this kid a lot, draws Clay Mathews comparisons. Could be long gone before the third, though.

    4. Tajae Sharpe, Umas WR. This kid is a player,

    Who knows. I just think that with this excellent HC, the Browns will win at least 4 games.

    There. Fact is stranger than fiction.

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