RG3 set to be a Brown ?
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The choice is easy if we are forced to take a bum with a bad attitude. Pick the bum that doesn't cost you a draft pick and a stack of cash
WSS
The choice is easy if we are forced to take a bum with a bad attitude. Pick the bum that doesn't cost you a draft pick and a stack of cash
WSS
Brilliant. Really.
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CBS reporting that we are completely out of the Kaepernick sweepstakes, but we're still "checking out" RG III. Nobody is reporting that a deal is "imminent", but it certainly looks good. I don't have a problem with starting McCown and having RG III backing him up. Hell, what is Hue can work some magic with Griffin? Would I bet on it? Heck no, but stranger things have happened. It's time to get lucky.
CBS reporting that we are completely out of the Kaepernick sweepstakes, but we're still "checking out" RG III. Nobody is reporting that a deal is "imminent", but it certainly looks good. I don't have a problem with starting McCown and having RG III backing him up. Hell, what is Hue can work some magic with Griffin? Would I bet on it? Heck no, but stranger things have happened. It's time to get lucky.
This is actually bad news for Kaepernik as far as I am concerned. The Niners may let him go on a salary cap dump....and then where does he go? Denver maybe is his only option to be a starter it seems.....or he can go and be backup for one of those teams with older QBs....like Dallas, New Orleans etc. for backup money (and yet it was all about the money to him earlier)
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CBS reporting that we are completely out of the Kaepernick sweepstakes, but we're still "checking out" RG III. Nobody is reporting that a deal is "imminent", but it certainly looks good. I don't have a problem with starting McCown and having RG III backing him up. Hell, what is Hue can work some magic with Griffin? Would I bet on it? Heck no, but stranger things have happened. It's time to get lucky.
This is actually bad news for Kaepernik as far as I am concerned. The Niners may let him go on a salary cap dump....and then where does he go? Denver maybe is his only option to be a starter it seems.....or he can go and be backup for one of those teams with older QBs....like Dallas, New Orleans etc. for backup money (and yet it was all about the money to him earlier)
This is actually bad news for Kaepernik as far as I am concerned. The Niners may let him go on a salary cap dump....and then where does he go? Denver maybe is his only option to be a starter it seems.....or he can go and be backup for one of those teams with older QBs....like Dallas, New Orleans etc. for backup money (and yet it was all about the money to him earlier)
They wouldn't do that while Denver is dangling something I suspect. But you may be right and Denver may withdraw any offer (which might lead to Kaep going to the Jets for a bag of footballs and Ryan Fitzpatrick ending up in Denver).
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This is actually bad news for Kaepernik as far as I am concerned. The Niners may let him go on a salary cap dump....and then where does he go? Denver maybe is his only option to be a starter it seems.....or he can go and be backup for one of those teams with older QBs....like Dallas, New Orleans etc. for backup money (and yet it was all about the money to him earlier)
They wouldn't do that while Denver is dangling something I suspect. But you may be right and Denver may withdraw any offer (which might lead to Kaep going to the Jets for a bag of footballs and Ryan Fitzpatrick ending up in Denver).
They wouldn't do that while Denver is dangling something I suspect. But you may be right and Denver may withdraw any offer (which might lead to Kaep going to the Jets for a bag of footballs and Ryan Fitzpatrick ending up in Denver).
Isn't like his contract guaranteed if he is on the roster after April 1st? Or, even if they have to pay, I understand they may still cut him for salary cap room?
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One Post From the Truth said:
Oh boy. The Browns sign RG3 Zombo will have a stroke over this one.
don't blame him....you do not want this guy....he is another bad knee injury away from retirement....stupid move to take him...go with the draft guys, i think we will be ok...might as well, this is a major rebuild anyway...
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We don't have Ray Farmer giving out money now. These Harvard guys are skinflints.....so I doubt that he would be fleecing the Browns.
Welcome to the club, Gip..
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We gotta spend money anyway. We probably have the lowest QB budget in the league. RG3 either shines, or he doesnt and no big loss.
Doesn't cost us a draft pick ... cheaper than Kap, and IMO a higher ceiling and better dude.
Z
Zombo said:
We gotta spend money anyway. We probably have the lowest QB budget in the league. RG3 either shines, or he doesnt and no big loss.
Doesn't cost us a draft pick ... cheaper than Kap, and IMO a higher ceiling and better dude.
Z
so we don't take a qb in the draft?...because if we grab rg3, there is no sense to draft a qb and have him sit on the bench...because mccown will be the backup...so that would put the drafted qb as 3rd string probably...do we really want to put everything on the line with an injury prone head case qb as our starter...i don't know about this....would make me quite nervous...
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One Post From the Truth said:
I can totally see the draft bending another way . RG3 is good enough to put your faith in him above a high draft pic. What I'm saying...if RG3 goes to Cleveland they won't draft a qb in the first round.
if RG3 becomes a Brown, care to revisit this with a friendly wager?
even with 3 pro bowlers on the line we go through at LEAST 3 QBs every year. thinking RG3 would play 16 games is borderline insanity.
if RG3 becomes a Brown, care to revisit this with a friendly wager?
even with 3 pro bowlers on the line we go through at LEAST 3 QBs every year. thinking RG3 would play 16 games is borderline insanity.
no shit....there are crazy folks on this board...the guy has a bum knee...i repeat, the guy has a BUM knee...
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CBS reporting that we are completely out of the Kaepernick sweepstakes, but we're still "checking out" RG III. Nobody is reporting that a deal is "imminent", but it certainly looks good. I don't have a problem with starting McCown and having RG III backing him up. Hell, what is Hue can work some magic with Griffin? Would I bet on it? Heck no, but stranger things have happened. It's time to get lucky.
I'd far rather have RG III than Kap. And the moneyball guys will like him too if they negotiate a reasonable price WITHOUT losing any draft picks.
I'd far rather have RG III than Kap. And the moneyball guys will like him too if they negotiate a reasonable price WITHOUT losing any draft picks.
In two weeks Kaep won't cost a draft pick either...
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Zombo said:
We gotta spend money anyway. We probably have the lowest QB budget in the league. RG3 either shines, or he doesnt and no big loss.
Doesn't cost us a draft pick ... cheaper than Kap, and IMO a higher ceiling and better dude.
Z
so we don't take a qb in the draft?...because if we grab rg3, there is no sense to draft a qb and have him sit on the bench...because mccown will be the backup...so that would put the drafted qb as 3rd string probably...do we really want to put everything on the line with an injury prone head case qb as our starter...i don't know about this....would make me quite nervous...
so we don't take a qb in the draft?...because if we grab rg3, there is no sense to draft a qb and have him sit on the bench...because mccown will be the backup...so that would put the drafted qb as 3rd string probably...do we really want to put everything on the line with an injury prone head case qb as our starter...i don't know about this....would make me quite nervous...
no shit....there are crazy folks on this board...the guy has a bum knee...i repeat, the guy has a BUM knee...
Two ACL repairs- the next one may be his last. I wonder if the Browns would be able to take a look at his medical records- before they make him an offer. If not, I'd bet the ranch Sashi's offer will be contingent on him passing a physical to the Brown's satisfaction. I'm hoping this is just more media smoke.
Like Ghoolie says, there are no old running quarterbacks in the NFL. IIRC Griffin flopped in his audition as a pocket passer. Hey Hue- you watch any tape the last time RG played?
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Zombo said:
We gotta spend money anyway. We probably have the lowest QB budget in the league. RG3 either shines, or he doesnt and no big loss.
Doesn't cost us a draft pick ... cheaper than Kap, and IMO a higher ceiling and better dude.
Z
so we don't take a qb in the draft?...because if we grab rg3, there is no sense to draft a qb and have him sit on the bench...because mccown will be the backup...so that would put the drafted qb as 3rd string probably...do we really want to put everything on the line with an injury prone head case qb as our starter...i don't know about this....would make me quite nervous...
so we don't take a qb in the draft?...because if we grab rg3, there is no sense to draft a qb and have him sit on the bench...because mccown will be the backup...so that would put the drafted qb as 3rd string probably...do we really want to put everything on the line with an injury prone head case qb as our starter...i don't know about this....would make me quite nervous...
We can still draft whoever we want.
We aren't making any decisions based on McCown. He's old and Hue is going reshape the position.
Griffin would be the presumed started on a short contract and we could easily still draft the QB we like best to develop without having to start him right away.
Z
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VesnaKociper said:
Another black Fran Tarkenton. Garbage QB, total garbage. If he comes to Cleveland I will root for him to get fucked up bad.
They will draft some more very important offensive linemen to block for him. You should love it.
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Today on the radio they were interviewing some guy from Washington who is talking about why some of the guys on the team hated him besides his arrogant me first attitude. The offensive lineman dislike the guy because they say he held on to the ball forever.
Assumably coach Jackson likes a quick release. Maybe that can be learned.
WSS
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so we don't take a qb in the draft?...because if we grab rg3, there is no sense to draft a qb and have him sit on the bench...because mccown will be the backup...so that would put the drafted qb as 3rd string probably...do we really want to put everything on the line with an injury prone head case qb as our starter...i don't know about this....would make me quite nervous...
no shit....there are crazy folks on this board...the guy has a bum knee...i repeat, the guy has a BUM knee...
Two ACL repairs- the next one may be his last. I wonder if the Browns would be able to take a look at his medical records- before they make him an offer. If not, I'd bet the ranch Sashi's offer will be contingent on him passing a physical to the Brown's satisfaction. I'm hoping this is just more media smoke.
Like Ghoolie says, there are no old running quarterbacks in the NFL. IIRC Griffin flopped in his audition as a pocket passer. Hey Hue- you watch any tape the last time RG played?
Two ACL repairs...
Knees happen... but until RG3 I'd never seen a player dislocate his own ankle. If that's not a medical red flag, then I don't know what one is.
Today on the radio they were interviewing some guy from Washington who is talking about why some of the guys on the team hated him besides his arrogant me first attitude. The offensive lineman dislike the guy because they say he held on to the ball forever.
On the bright side he'd make McC look like Quick Draw McGraw.... which would suck since we released our leading BaBaLooey candidate.
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My concern with RG3 is his frame. There is no doubt the guy is an athlete; runs, throws, seemed intelligent. I'll admit, I would have liked to have drafted him when he came out, just didn't want to give away everything.
But his frame and what might be an even weaker Oline has me seeing RG3 looking like the guy folded in half in Men in Black.
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VesnaKociper said:
Another black Fran Tarkenton. Garbage QB, total garbage. If he comes to Cleveland I will root for him to get fucked up bad.
I will take 3 Super Bowl appearances....which is what Fran Tarkenton had....and I will take my chances on winning at least one of those. (though...I know, Tark won none)
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I understand kicking the tires, but Kaep and RGIII are a NO in my book.
Not seein it. I know that the Browns gave up a lot of sacks, etc, but
that's because they didn't have dangerous wr's, so they could just
cover Benjamin on the fly, and double Barnidge...
and all out blitz and rush the qb, and the run. The qb can't beat the rush
if he has no one to throw to.
Fix the wr position. Forget the veteran fa qb thing. Draft Wentz.
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