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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Good thing they have you to show them the way...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      I heard this from a co worker and he referenced the name from a Senator that had this idea.

      https://www.facebook.com/Mike-Black-Sunday-Stories-1780988822148720/?ref=bookmarks
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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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        When they kill you for simply wishing Christians to have a happy Easter I think that speaks volumes for why nobody wants to come forward.

        Family of Muslim Man Who Was Killed After Posting Loving Message to Christians and Jesus Are ‘Scared for Our Lives’

        Asad Shah was murdered in his shop in Glasgow on Thursday hours after posting a message on Facebook professing love for Christians and Jesus and wishing Christians a happy Easter.

        http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/03/28/family-muslim-man-who-was-killed-after-posting-loving-message-to-christians-and-jesus-are-scared-for-our-lives/

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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          Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

          http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Befriending Non-Believers

              Are Muslims allowed to be friends with Christians, Jews or other non-Muslims?

              Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Quran) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend that they be taken as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Quran plainly orders believers not to take unbelievers as friends.

              Cultural superiority is a doctrine of Islam that actually has a name; it's called Jahiliyya - and literally means thatany culture without Islam is "ignorant and stupid." Stunning bigotry by Islamic scholars is so casual that it often goes unnoticed. For example, a 2007 fatwa responds to a question on whether Muslims can swim in a pool in which a non-Muslim has swam:

              If the size of the public pool is more than 225 sq ft (20.9 m2) then it is considered a large body of water and will not become impure by non-Muslims swimming in it. If the pool is less then 225 sq ft (20.9 m2), then if the non-Muslim had taken a bath before swimming, the water will be pure since there is no impurity on him. If he did not take a bath before swimming and it is certain that there was impurity on him before he swam, then the pool is impure and all the water must be removed and refilled with clean water.

              Even though they are explicitly kufr (unbelievers, Quran 5:17, 4:44-59) Jews and Christians are given special status in the Quran. So, if Muhammad warned believers against taking them as friends, then it surely is not permissible for Muslims to befriend atheists or those of other religions.

              Some Muslims interpret this to mean that they should not even act friendly toward nonbelievers; fortunately, many do not. Islamic TV preacher Sheikh Muhammad Hassan says that a Muslim is not permitted even to smile at a non-Muslim. A fatwa from Islam Q&A permits infidels to be dealt with "in a kind manner in the hope that they might become Muslim," but it warns Muslims against taking unbelievers as "sincere friends" (The same site also encourages Muslims to "stop keeping company with Christians and replace them with Muslim friends").

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                I don't understand the Muslims vs really violent terrorist "Muslims" both claiming, by the millions/hundreds

                of thousands... adherence to the Koran. Just seems like the Koran is an all-pervasive blanket that socially,

                politically, legally, and religiously permeates everything - at least to a lot of the..."not really Muslim Muslims"

                It's confusing. I honestly don't get it.

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                  I don't understand the Muslims vs really violent terrorist "Muslims" both claiming, by the millions/hundreds

                  of thousands... adherence to the Koran. Just seems like the Koran is an all-pervasive blanket that socially,

                  politically, legally, and religiously permeates everything - at least to a lot of the..."not really Muslim Muslims"

                  It's confusing. I honestly don't get it.

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  I don't understand the Muslims vs really violent terrorist "Muslims" both claiming, by the millions/hundreds

                  of thousands... adherence to the Koran. Just seems like the Koran is an all-pervasive blanket that socially,

                  politically, legally, and religiously permeates everything - at least to a lot of the..."not really Muslim Muslims"

                  It's confusing. I honestly don't get it.

                  There are a ton of denominations of Christianity who interpret the Bible differently from one another. However, none of the denominations found a way to interpret it where they declare war on everyone who isn't them.

                  The Koran makes it pretty easy to be interpreted that way. Written by a desert bandit. Lots of head chopping. No reformation or "New Testament" equivalent.

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                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                    Maajid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation http://www.quilliamfoundation.org do good work agains Islamist extremism. Maajid'S backstory is interesting, and it gives me hope that we can combat extremism.

                    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      My eyes got opened years ago watching a show on television where moderate Muslims were condemning violence and advocating peace and they won me over until the end of the show where the moderator brought out verses of violence against infidels and asked the moderate Muslims if they would say this is wrong. NOPE they would not and then I saw it. it is the koran itself that is the problem. Most of what we call moderate Muslims are those who simply do not follow the teachings of the koran much like some who (say they) are Christians do not follow the teachings of the bible. But to be a koran believing Muslim it will produce the results we are seeing.

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                      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                        Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                        http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

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                        StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                        http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

                        Stuart

                        In the wake of many terrorist attacks some Muslim leader or group makes a cameo appearance. Don't be so naïve Woody, they've got to at least appear on the up and up.

                        I'm not saying none are sincere, but it is difficult to determine when Islam and the Koran preaches it is OK to lie and be deceitful if it promotes Islam.

                        Look it up.

                        Btw...the article you linked there was this statement by the Imam:

                        “We are totally condemning what’s happening in Europe,” he said. “It’s just a crisis.”

                        What do suppose he meant by that Woody? Or is he just an Islamophobe?

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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                            The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                            The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                              The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                              StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                              @diehardbrownsfan said:

                              The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                              Can't put "dead" there because dead ones will have taken innocent men women and children with them.

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                                Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                                http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

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                                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                                http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

                                Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.
                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                                  The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.

                                  I like yusuf and all but he did support the fatwa against Salman rushdie so...

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                                    http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

                                    Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.
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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.

                                    Please layout your plan about this army. Thanks.

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        They prefer to let Europeans and americans have to deal with it so they don't have to pretend to decry jihad very hard.

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                                          Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.

                                          Like this? http://time.com/3727926/isis-jordan-king-abdullah/

                                          http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/11/18/jordans-king-abdullah-ii-facing-third-world-war-isis/

                                          How is your fight going against Christian terrorist groups in Africa? Have you raised an army to fight them yet?

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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