Wanted: A Muslim Speaker
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Maajid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation http://www.quilliamfoundation.org do good work agains Islamist extremism. Maajid'S backstory is interesting, and it gives me hope that we can combat extremism.
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My eyes got opened years ago watching a show on television where moderate Muslims were condemning violence and advocating peace and they won me over until the end of the show where the moderator brought out verses of violence against infidels and asked the moderate Muslims if they would say this is wrong. NOPE they would not and then I saw it. it is the koran itself that is the problem. Most of what we call moderate Muslims are those who simply do not follow the teachings of the koran much like some who (say they) are Christians do not follow the teachings of the bible. But to be a koran believing Muslim it will produce the results we are seeing.
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Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news
Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news
Stuart
In the wake of many terrorist attacks some Muslim leader or group makes a cameo appearance. Don't be so naïve Woody, they've got to at least appear on the up and up.
I'm not saying none are sincere, but it is difficult to determine when Islam and the Koran preaches it is OK to lie and be deceitful if it promotes Islam.
Look it up.
Btw...the article you linked there was this statement by the Imam:
“We are totally condemning what’s happening in Europe,” he said. “It’s just a crisis.”
What do suppose he meant by that Woody? Or is he just an Islamophobe?
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The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.
The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.
The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.
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The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.
The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.
Can't put "dead" there because dead ones will have taken innocent men women and children with them.
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Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news
Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.
The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.
The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.
I like yusuf and all but he did support the fatwa against Salman rushdie so...
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Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news
Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.
Please layout your plan about this army. Thanks.
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Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
They prefer to let Europeans and americans have to deal with it so they don't have to pretend to decry jihad very hard.
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Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.
Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.
Like this? http://time.com/3727926/isis-jordan-king-abdullah/
How is your fight going against Christian terrorist groups in Africa? Have you raised an army to fight them yet?
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First: I'm not a christian, jackass.
Second: no one cares about africa, not even africans.
Third: that's one. Where's the others?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
My dislike for Muslims as a whole is because of terrorism. They're not all terrorists of course but action needs to take place. A person needs to be the face of unity and before it does I don't trust any of them.
My brother opened a card shop in the early 90's and he had a partner that was Islam. It was my first encounter with one and he was kind and fare. But that's about it. I see Muslims all the time at work and most are rude because they don't understand wtf is going on. I had one ask me if he was in il. I told him yes and he argued with me he was in Indiana. I thot " goddamn someone hired this freako?"
Pilot has a machine to get receipts from called a kiosk. It stands alone so if a driver needs a receipt he can get in and out quickly. Well....I seen one at the ATM trying to get a fuel receipt ya it's that bad.
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First: I'm not a christian, jackass.
Second: no one cares about africa, not even africans.
Third: that's one. Where's the others?
First: I'm not a christian, jackass.
Second: no one cares about africa, not even africans.
Third: that's one. Where's the others?
1) Alright. Then why aren't any of the Christians on here condemning those attacks? Why aren't they creating an army and going to fight?
2) Your ignorance can't be used as a "point" here
3) Oh, have you been studying at Cal's "Throw It All at the Wall and Hope Something Sticks" school?
3a) Can we agree you were wrong about having Jordan on that list?
3b) Next up, Egypt
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-bombs-isis-in-revenge-for-beheadings/
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By the way christian terrorists aren't even close to the threat in Africa posed by muslim groups like boko haram.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
You seem to be deflecting
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Jordan is certainly talking and might have committed to airstrikes (which, by the way are largely ineffective) but apparently the only ones with the balls to actually fight are the Kurds and I commend them for it. They're not really muslims though. The muslims aren't really doing shit.
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Look at the laSt fifteen years of fighting in the middle east and let's talk about how effective bombing and airstrikes are, really. If they want to put an end to this they need (anyone would need to: not just muslims) put troops on the ground. Put guns in their hands and fight and kill them. They would need to raise an army. Airstrikes, in history, have never defeated anyone except nuclear strikes on a severely weakened japan.
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Overwhelming airstrikes didn't defeat germany or britan or Korea or Vietnam. They haven't defeated the Iraqi insurgency in 15 years. Airstrikes are a support measure not a primary warfare measure unless you go nuclear.
Massive losses of manpower at stalingrad (and others but stalingrand was the decisive battle that turner the tide of the war) was what defeated the nazis.
Massive loss of manpower in the Pacific theater at places like iwo jima was what defeated Japan, a war machine just as fanatical and far more powerful than isis.
Airstrikes and condemnation are all well and good but to destroy isis and their like is going to take massive battles in which the good guys are going to lose a lot of men which is exactly what they're unwilling to do.
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