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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    I don't understand the Muslims vs really violent terrorist "Muslims" both claiming, by the millions/hundreds

    of thousands... adherence to the Koran. Just seems like the Koran is an all-pervasive blanket that socially,

    politically, legally, and religiously permeates everything - at least to a lot of the..."not really Muslim Muslims"

    It's confusing. I honestly don't get it.

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      I don't understand the Muslims vs really violent terrorist "Muslims" both claiming, by the millions/hundreds

      of thousands... adherence to the Koran. Just seems like the Koran is an all-pervasive blanket that socially,

      politically, legally, and religiously permeates everything - at least to a lot of the..."not really Muslim Muslims"

      It's confusing. I honestly don't get it.

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      @calfoxwc said:

      I don't understand the Muslims vs really violent terrorist "Muslims" both claiming, by the millions/hundreds

      of thousands... adherence to the Koran. Just seems like the Koran is an all-pervasive blanket that socially,

      politically, legally, and religiously permeates everything - at least to a lot of the..."not really Muslim Muslims"

      It's confusing. I honestly don't get it.

      There are a ton of denominations of Christianity who interpret the Bible differently from one another. However, none of the denominations found a way to interpret it where they declare war on everyone who isn't them.

      The Koran makes it pretty easy to be interpreted that way. Written by a desert bandit. Lots of head chopping. No reformation or "New Testament" equivalent.

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        jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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        Maajid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation http://www.quilliamfoundation.org do good work agains Islamist extremism. Maajid'S backstory is interesting, and it gives me hope that we can combat extremism.

        "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          My eyes got opened years ago watching a show on television where moderate Muslims were condemning violence and advocating peace and they won me over until the end of the show where the moderator brought out verses of violence against infidels and asked the moderate Muslims if they would say this is wrong. NOPE they would not and then I saw it. it is the koran itself that is the problem. Most of what we call moderate Muslims are those who simply do not follow the teachings of the koran much like some who (say they) are Christians do not follow the teachings of the bible. But to be a koran believing Muslim it will produce the results we are seeing.

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            Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

            http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

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            StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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            @mld-woody said:

            Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

            http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

            Stuart

            In the wake of many terrorist attacks some Muslim leader or group makes a cameo appearance. Don't be so naĂŻve Woody, they've got to at least appear on the up and up.

            I'm not saying none are sincere, but it is difficult to determine when Islam and the Koran preaches it is OK to lie and be deceitful if it promotes Islam.

            Look it up.

            Btw...the article you linked there was this statement by the Imam:

            “We are totally condemning what’s happening in Europe,” he said. “It’s just a crisis.”

            What do suppose he meant by that Woody? Or is he just an Islamophobe?

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                  The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                  StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                  Can't put "dead" there because dead ones will have taken innocent men women and children with them.

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                    Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                    http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                    http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

                    Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.
                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      The only good muslim is a __________ muslim. Fill in the blank.

                      The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.

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                      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      The only good muslim is a (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) muslim. Fill in the blank.

                      I like yusuf and all but he did support the fatwa against Salman rushdie so...

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Except there are plenty of Muslim groups that have condemned acts like this and ISIS. That just doesn't make for click baity news

                        http://m.pe.com/articles/people-798004-muslim-attack.html

                        Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.
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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                        Condemning them isn't enough. Not when they're suicide bombing every other day. They need to raise an army and deal with it.

                        Please layout your plan about this army. Thanks.

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                          Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            They prefer to let Europeans and americans have to deal with it so they don't have to pretend to decry jihad very hard.

                            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                              Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-cysko-kid said:

                              Yeah. Muslims who are "sick" of these "non muslims" killing people daily in the name of islam need to do something about it then. All the powers that be over there have manpower. Saudi, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, various others. That they refuse to do anything about it implies that they either don't care or support it. You denounce the KKK but how is that helping anyone? Except the KKK doesn't kill 30-70 or more people in high profile attacks all over the world every couple of days.

                              Like this? http://time.com/3727926/isis-jordan-king-abdullah/

                              http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/11/18/jordans-king-abdullah-ii-facing-third-world-war-isis/

                              How is your fight going against Christian terrorist groups in Africa? Have you raised an army to fight them yet?

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                First: I'm not a christian, jackass.

                                Second: no one cares about africa, not even africans.

                                Third: that's one. Where's the others?

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  My dislike for Muslims as a whole is because of terrorism. They're not all terrorists of course but action needs to take place. A person needs to be the face of unity and before it does I don't trust any of them.

                                  My brother opened a card shop in the early 90's and he had a partner that was Islam. It was my first encounter with one and he was kind and fare. But that's about it. I see Muslims all the time at work and most are rude because they don't understand wtf is going on. I had one ask me if he was in il. I told him yes and he argued with me he was in Indiana. I thot " goddamn someone hired this freako?"

                                  Pilot has a machine to get receipts from called a kiosk. It stands alone so if a driver needs a receipt he can get in and out quickly. Well....I seen one at the ATM trying to get a fuel receipt ya it's that bad.

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                                    First: I'm not a christian, jackass.

                                    Second: no one cares about africa, not even africans.

                                    Third: that's one. Where's the others?

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    First: I'm not a christian, jackass.

                                    Second: no one cares about africa, not even africans.

                                    Third: that's one. Where's the others?

                                    1) Alright. Then why aren't any of the Christians on here condemning those attacks? Why aren't they creating an army and going to fight?

                                    2) Your ignorance can't be used as a "point" here

                                    3) Oh, have you been studying at Cal's "Throw It All at the Wall and Hope Something Sticks" school?

                                    3a) Can we agree you were wrong about having Jordan on that list?

                                    3b) Next up, Egypt

                                    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Aug-13/267022-al-azhar-condemns-isis-as-corrupt-and-a-danger-to-islam.ashx

                                    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-bombs-isis-in-revenge-for-beheadings/

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      By the way christian terrorists aren't even close to the threat in Africa posed by muslim groups like boko haram.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        You seem to be deflecting

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          Jordan is certainly talking and might have committed to airstrikes (which, by the way are largely ineffective) but apparently the only ones with the balls to actually fight are the Kurds and I commend them for it. They're not really muslims though. The muslims aren't really doing shit.

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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