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  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @mld-woody said:

    Sure, but it isn't trying to be a show that people get their news from.

    I 100% disagree with that. Every single video you've posted is injected with the politics of current events.

    Okay, I have to say it. You all realize more Mexicans are leaving the United State than coming in right?

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/

    I'm about 99.8% sure that will go over people's head though, and rather just a roar of "they took err jobs!"

    @vaportrail said:

    I 100% disagree with that. Every single video you've posted is injected with the politics of current events.

    I mean, it's a comedy show about current events I don't think they are trying to hide that.. I also clearly showed a video that was just a silly thing, which is a good 30-50% of his show every week. That's just not accurate, again John Oliver is a comedian first.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Okay, I have to say it. You all realize more Mexicans are leaving the United State than coming in right?

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/

    I'm about 99.8% sure that will go over people's head though, and rather just a roar of "they took err jobs!"

    @vaportrail said:

    I 100% disagree with that. Every single video you've posted is injected with the politics of current events.

    I mean, it's a comedy show about current events I don't think they are trying to hide that.. I also clearly showed a video that was just a silly thing, which is a good 30-50% of his show every week. That's just not accurate, again John Oliver is a comedian first.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I mean, it's a comedy show about current events I don't think they are trying to hide that.. I also clearly showed a video that was just a silly thing, which is a good 30-50% of his show every week. That's just not accurate, again John Oliver is a comedian first.

    If the other 50-70% of the show is about political issues and current events, how are you guys arguing that he's not a news personality? The guy is both a news personality and a comedian. Saying that he is one of the above does not make him exempt from criticism for the other half of what he does.

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  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @jrb12711 said:

    I mean, it's a comedy show about current events I don't think they are trying to hide that.. I also clearly showed a video that was just a silly thing, which is a good 30-50% of his show every week. That's just not accurate, again John Oliver is a comedian first.

    If the other 50-70% of the show is about political issues and current events, how are you guys arguing that he's not a news personality? The guy is both a news personality and a comedian. Saying that he is one of the above does not make him exempt from criticism for the other half of what he does.

    @vaportrail said:

    If the other 50-70% of the show is about political issues and current events, how are you guys arguing that he's not a news personality? The guy is both a news personality and a comedian. Saying that he is one of the above does not make him exempt from criticism for the other half of what he does.

    He's not presenting the news in a factual manner though. He's not Scott Pelley recounting the days events in a monotone, neutral regard. He's injecting humor (because he's a comedian) into current events in a comedy show. I really, really don't get how that's hard to understand. Do you consider late night talk show hosts news personalities too? They talk about current events with comedy.

    I realize people listen to him and take his stuff at face value, but welcome to the world. People listen to non-authorities on issues all the time.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @vaportrail said:

    If the other 50-70% of the show is about political issues and current events, how are you guys arguing that he's not a news personality? The guy is both a news personality and a comedian. Saying that he is one of the above does not make him exempt from criticism for the other half of what he does.

    He's not presenting the news in a factual manner though. He's not Scott Pelley recounting the days events in a monotone, neutral regard. He's injecting humor (because he's a comedian) into current events in a comedy show. I really, really don't get how that's hard to understand. Do you consider late night talk show hosts news personalities too? They talk about current events with comedy.

    I realize people listen to him and take his stuff at face value, but welcome to the world. People listen to non-authorities on issues all the time.

    @jrb12711 said:

    He's not presenting the news in a factual manner though. He's not Scott Pelley recounting the days events in a monotone, neutral regard. He's injecting humor (because he's a comedian) into current events in a comedy show. I really, really don't get how that's hard to understand. Do you consider late night talk show hosts news personalities too? They talk about current events with comedy.

    I realize people listen to him and take his stuff at face value, but welcome to the world. People listen to non-authorities on issues all the time.

    I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

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  • I don't consider Stewert or Colbert news persons.

    They make fun of the news.

    Sure there are facts in what they do, but it is more about the jokes then it is about the story IMO

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • They know full well that they are the liberal answer to o'Reilly and beck. They just try and cover their asses by saying "well its just a comedy show"

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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  • Okay, I have a better idea for the wall. Build it, and then coat it with that

    glue that they use on fly sticking tape. Let em get stuck on it, and regret

    trying to invade our country.

  • C calfoxwc

    Okay, I have a better idea for the wall. Build it, and then coat it with that

    glue that they use on fly sticking tape. Let em get stuck on it, and regret

    trying to invade our country.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Okay, I have a better idea for the wall. Build it, and then coat it with that

    blue that they use on fly sticking tape. Let em get stuck on it, and regret

    trying to invade our country.

    I like the laser idea better
    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @jrb12711 said:

    He's not presenting the news in a factual manner though. He's not Scott Pelley recounting the days events in a monotone, neutral regard. He's injecting humor (because he's a comedian) into current events in a comedy show. I really, really don't get how that's hard to understand. Do you consider late night talk show hosts news personalities too? They talk about current events with comedy.

    I realize people listen to him and take his stuff at face value, but welcome to the world. People listen to non-authorities on issues all the time.

    I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

    @vaportrail said:

    I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @vaportrail said:

    I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

    @jrb12711 said:

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

    C'Mon you've never laughed out loud at Wolf Blitzer kissing the Clinton's asses?

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @vaportrail said:

    I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

    @jrb12711 said:

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

    Here's another deal for you. How about you pull your head out of your ass and admit that one can be both a comedian AND a news personality? Did you see Stewart's interview with the Mad Money guy. He absolutely thrashed him. That certainly wasn't Jon being a comedian.

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  • W Westside Steve

    @jrb12711 said:

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

    C'Mon you've never laughed out loud at Wolf Blitzer kissing the Clinton's asses?

    😁

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    C'Mon you've never laughed out loud at Wolf Blitzer kissing the Clinton's asses?

    😁

    WSS

    I laugh every time I read or here the name Wolf Blitzer

    He should be hosting a comedy hour

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • T The Cysko Kid

    They know full well that they are the liberal answer to o'Reilly and beck. They just try and cover their asses by saying "well its just a comedy show"

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    They know full well that they are the liberal answer to o'Reilly and beck. They just try and cover their asses by saying "well its just a comedy show"

    This is exactly it. Watching Stewart and O'Reilly go toe-to-toe was always an amazing conversation.

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @jrb12711 said:

    I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

    Here's another deal for you. How about you pull your head out of your ass and admit that one can be both a comedian AND a news personality? Did you see Stewart's interview with the Mad Money guy. He absolutely thrashed him. That certainly wasn't Jon being a comedian.

    @vaportrail said:

    Here's another deal for you. How about you pull your head out of your ass and admit that one can be both a comedian AND a news personality? Did you see Stewart's interview with the Mad Money guy. He absolutely thrashed him. That certainly wasn't Jon being a comedian.

    I literally saw John Oliver preform a stand-up routine last year. No, I'm not going to admit a touring comedian who calls himself a comedian and hosts a comedy show is a news personality just because he talks about current events.

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  • O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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  • That being said people listen to all of them and use their opinions as a base for their (the viewers') own.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @vaportrail said:

    Here's another deal for you. How about you pull your head out of your ass and admit that one can be both a comedian AND a news personality? Did you see Stewart's interview with the Mad Money guy. He absolutely thrashed him. That certainly wasn't Jon being a comedian.

    I literally saw John Oliver preform a stand-up routine last year. No, I'm not going to admit a touring comedian who calls himself a comedian and hosts a comedy show is a news personality just because he talks about current events.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I literally saw John Oliver preform a stand-up routine last year. No, I'm not going to admit a touring comedian who calls himself a comedian and hosts a comedy show is a news personality just because he talks about current events.

    lol

    "IT'S NOT A NEWS SHOW! ONLY 30%-50% OF IT IS COMEDY NOT ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS!"

  • T The Cysko Kid

    O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

    If you're gonna argue that, then where do you draw the line? Rachel Maddow has pretty liberal opinions. Is she a news personality or an opinion personality. In this day and age, the margins that separate a news personality from everything else are pretty blurry.

  • T The Cysko Kid

    O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

    I don't disagree with you on that.

    @vaportrail said:

    lol

    "IT'S NOT A NEWS SHOW! ONLY 30%-50% OF IT IS COMEDY NOT ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS!"

    That's never what I said, and putting it in all caps doesn't change that. I've said 30-50% of his show has nothing to do with current events, and the other half is comedy is about said events. That still makes him a comedian-his official website is John Oliver l The comedian. I get you don't like the guy and if you don't find his humor funny I've never had issues with that, but he's a comedian. The day Scott Pelley creates a fake church and receives giant penis staues in the mail as part of his gag I'll shut the hell right up.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

    I don't disagree with you on that.

    @vaportrail said:

    lol

    "IT'S NOT A NEWS SHOW! ONLY 30%-50% OF IT IS COMEDY NOT ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS!"

    That's never what I said, and putting it in all caps doesn't change that. I've said 30-50% of his show has nothing to do with current events, and the other half is comedy is about said events. That still makes him a comedian-his official website is John Oliver l The comedian. I get you don't like the guy and if you don't find his humor funny I've never had issues with that, but he's a comedian. The day Scott Pelley creates a fake church and receives giant penis staues in the mail as part of his gag I'll shut the hell right up.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I don't disagree with you on that.

    That's never what I said, and putting it in all caps doesn't change that. I've said 30-50% of his show has nothing to do with current events, and the other half is comedy is about said events. That still makes him a comedian-his official website is John Oliver l The comedian. I get you don't like the guy and if you don't find his humor funny I've never had issues with that, but he's a comedian. The day Scott Pelley creates a fake church and receives giant penis staues in the mail as part of his gag I'll shut the hell right up.

    I have never argued that he wasn't a comedian.

    Here's an image that should help you. This is called a Venn diagram. The left circle represents comedians. The right circle represents news personalities. Where they overlap is where you'll find the likes of Oliver, Stewart, Colbert.

    hiv4o.gif

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