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  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Good luck in November:

    Trump's negatives:

    Women: over 70 percent disapproval (represent 53 percent of voters)

    Blacks: 83 percent disapproval

    Hispanics: 77 percent disapproval

    Millennials: Over 80 percent disapproval

    Ironically the four biggest groups of pains in the ass I can imagine!

    Let's go 30 and older literate white men w!ith jobs!

    😁

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Ironically the four biggest groups of pains in the ass I can imagine!

    Let's go 30 and older literate white men w!ith jobs!

    😁

    WSS

    Here's what dilbert creator Scott Adams has to say about Trump.

    6. To bend reality, Trump is a master of identity politics – and identity is the strongest persuader.

    "Do you think it is a coincidence that Trump called Megyn Kelly a bimbo and then she got a non-bimbo haircut that is ... well, Trumpian?" Adams writes. "It doesn't look like a coincidence to this trained persuader."

    One way to achieve this is by deploying "linguistic kill shots" that land true, and alter perception through two ways.

    "The best Trump linguistic kill shots," Adams writes,"have the following qualities: 1. Fresh word that is not generally used in politics; 2. Relates to the physicality of the subject (so you are always reminded)."

    Writes Adams: "Identity is always the strongest level of persuasion. The only way to beat it is with dirty tricks or a stronger identity play. ... (And) Trump is well on his way to owning the identities of American Alpha Males, and Women Who Like Alpha Males. Clinton is well on her way to owning the identities of angry women, beta males, immigrants, and disenfranchised minorities.

    "If this were poker, which hand looks stronger to you for a national election?"

  • @westside-steve said:

    Ironically the four biggest groups of pains in the ass I can imagine!

    Let's go 30 and older literate white men w!ith jobs!

    😁

    WSS

    That includes me, fwiw. And trump is an asshole.

    @gftchris said:

    That includes me, fwiw. And trump is an asshole.

    You can't even vote

  • @westside-steve said:

    Ironically the four biggest groups of pains in the ass I can imagine!

    Let's go 30 and older literate white men w!ith jobs!

    😁

    WSS

    That includes me, fwiw. And trump is an asshole.

    @gftchris said:

    That includes me, fwiw. And trump is an asshole.

    So am I. Your point? Anyway you've only got a year right?

    Unless Bernie Sanders wins, you move to the United States and become a citizen and he lowers the retirement age to 30.

    😉

    WSS

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  • @gftchris said:

    That includes me, fwiw. And trump is an asshole.

    So am I. Your point? Anyway you've only got a year right?

    Unless Bernie Sanders wins, you move to the United States and become a citizen and he lowers the retirement age to 30.

    😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So am I. Your point? Anyway you've only got a year right?

    Unless Bernie Sanders wins, you move to the United States and become a citizen and he lowers the retirement age to 30.

    😉

    WSS

    Or are you 39? I thought you were talking about being a millennial...

    WSS

  • @bbedward said:

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    That is the greatest caricature I have ever seen.

  • @bbedward said:

    66KSMNK.jpg

    That is the greatest caricature I have ever seen.

    @vaportrail said:

    That is the greatest caricature I have ever seen.

    Idk. It kind of creeps me out

    Oh, wait. Right. Spot on

  • Drumpf strikes again:

    Donald Trump: make America great again by letting more countries have nukes

    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/30/11332074/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-japan-south-korea-saudi-arabia

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  • So hypothetically you believe it's better for Iran North Korea Pakistan etcetera to have nukes but not Japan or South Korea?

    WSS

  • Japan and South Korea Confused by Trump’s Suggestion They Build Nuclear Arsenals

    In his interview with the Times, Trump said America's alliances with countries like Japan and South Korea are too expensive. Instead of relying on American troops, which costs the U.S. money, Trump suggested these countries build up their own nuclear arsenals.

    Evidently, Trump did not run this idea by Japanese and South Korean leaders before proposing it. According to the Washington Post, officials and newspapers from both countries responded to Trump's remarks with confusion at best and derision at worst. "We are dumbfounded at such myopic views of a leading candidate in the U.S. presidential race who tries to approach such critical issues only from the perspective of expenses," JoongAng Ilbo, one of South Korea's biggest newspapers, wrote in an editorial.

    Another paper, Hankyoreh, urged the South Korean government to "express its firm opposition to Trump’s foreign policy plan, which constitutes a threat to security on the Korean Peninsula."

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/japan-south-korea-confused-by-trump-nuke-policy.html

  • He was more or less saying countries like Japan and South Korea need to be more independent and able to defend themselves. And said it's not as bad if those countries have nukes compared to places like pakistan and north korea.

    Likewise he said he "wouldn't rule out" using nukes which freaked everybody out - but what else is he supposed to say. If we'd rule out using nukes might as well destroy our arsenal.

    Trump's foreign policy ideas are more isolationist - the rest of the world doesn't like that because it means America comes first.

  • Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't) Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering
    By Jesse Berney

    December 16, 2015

    Trump has said a lot of scary (and racist) things on the campaign trail, from calling undocumented immigrants rapists to saying he'd ban Muslims from the country to urging supporters at his rallies to attack protesters.

    But his answer Tuesday night was especially terrifying; it revealed what it means to put an ignorant blowhard with a head full of jagged rocks in charge of enough munitions to blow up the entire world several times over.

    Let's go through his answer. If you didn't see it in real time, know that you should experience the stomach-churning terror you feel when you climb that first hill on an especially tall roller coaster.

    First, Hewitt's question:

    "Mr. Trump, Dr. Carson just referenced the single most important job of the president, the command, the control and the care of our nuclear forces. And he mentioned the triad. The B-52s are older than I am. The missiles are old. The submarines are aging out. It's an executive order. It's a commander-in-chief decision.

    "What's your priority among our nuclear triad?"

    No matter how little you know about the makeup of our nuclear forces, it's clear Hewitt is suggesting the technologies we use to deliver a nuclear attack are too old, and asking Trump what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining them. Right? You'd have to be completely ignorant, an utter buffoon with the intelligence of an earthworm the other earthworms make fun of for being dumb not to get the gist of what Hewitt is asking here.

    And yet.

    This was Trump's response:

    "Well, first of all, I think we need somebody absolutely that we can trust, who is totally responsible, who really knows what he or she is doing. That is so powerful and so important."

    On the face of it, Trump's first comments may seem reasonable. We do need someone we can trust, who is totally responsible, who knows what he or she is doing when it comes to taking charge of our nuclear arsenal. But this wasn't an introduction to a fuller answer explaining why he knows what he's doing (or what his plans are). To Trump, that was the substantive answer. Listen to Trump for 30 seconds at any of his rallies and you realize that's the entirety of his thought process. "Make America Great Again" is a perfectly fine slogan if you have a plan to make America great again, but with Trump, the slogan is the entire agenda. There is no plan.

    How do we know Trump is responsible enough to handle our nuclear arsenal? He went on:

    "And one of the things that I'm frankly most proud of is that in 2003, 2004, I was totally against going into Iraq because you're going to destabilize the Middle East. I called it. I called it very strongly. And it was very important."

    First of all, Trump is simply lying; he did not, in fact, strongly object to the Iraq War before it began. But even if he was against the Iraq War, that doesn't qualify him to control and maintain the world's largest collection of nuclear bombs. I opposed the war, marching with signs and everything. And please believe me when I tell you I have no business anywhere near a bomb with the power to evaporate a city.

    Trump wasn't done yet.

    "But we have to be extremely vigilant and extremely careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ballgame. Frankly, I would have said get out of Syria; get out – if we didn't have the power of weaponry today. The power is so massive that we can't just leave areas that 50 years ago or 75 years ago we wouldn't care. It was hand-to-hand combat."

    Yes, in 1940 soldiers only fought in hand-to-hand combat. The boxing-related deaths of World War II were truly devastating.

    Again, Trump is right, in a childlike way. We do have to be careful with nuclear; it does change the whole ballgame. But these are generalities borne out of ignorance. In 145 words Trump has yet to approach anything remotely like an answer to Hewitt's question. He hasn't said what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining or upgrading our nukes. He hasn't even said what his principles would be. But surely that's coming soon, right?

    You know what? Let's just finish the exchange.

    Trump: "The biggest problem this world has today is not President Obama with global warming, which is inconceivable, this is what he's saying. The biggest problem we have is nuclear – nuclear proliferation and having some maniac, having some madman go out and get a nuclear weapon. That's in my opinion, that is the single biggest problem that our country faces right now."

    Hewitt: "Of the three legs of the triad, though, do you have a priority? I want to go to Sen. Rubio after that and ask him."

    Trump: "I think – I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me."

    The devastation is very important to him. That flailing nonsense is the best Trump can manage. A reasonably well-informed fifth grader could come up with something better.

    The problem isn't simply that Trump doesn't have detailed plans to make sure our nuclear weapons are safely maintained. The problem is that he doesn't understand even the most basic premise of a relatively simple question. He couldn't muster a "I'll make sure we have the most modern, best nuclear arsenal the world has ever seen," because he didn't know what he was being asked.

    Imagine handing over the nuclear codes to a man with the comprehension skills of Donald J. Trump. Do you honestly believe he would understand the consequences of using them? Trump is obsessed with tough-guy machismo. How much provocation does he need to press that button?

    Trump hasn't walked back any of the racist, ignorant, stupid things he's said over the course of the campaign, and he certainly won't admit to making a mistake last night. But his inability to muster ten remotely sensible words about what he would do as president with the most destructive collection of weapons in the history of mankind should be an automatic disqualifier for the presidency.

    This moment should be the beginning of the end for his campaign. Just like all the other moments should have been.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trumps-terrifying-nuke-answer-at-the-debate-should-end-his-campaign-but-it-wont-20151216?page=2

  • Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't) Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering
    By Jesse Berney

    December 16, 2015

    Trump has said a lot of scary (and racist) things on the campaign trail, from calling undocumented immigrants rapists to saying he'd ban Muslims from the country to urging supporters at his rallies to attack protesters.

    But his answer Tuesday night was especially terrifying; it revealed what it means to put an ignorant blowhard with a head full of jagged rocks in charge of enough munitions to blow up the entire world several times over.

    Let's go through his answer. If you didn't see it in real time, know that you should experience the stomach-churning terror you feel when you climb that first hill on an especially tall roller coaster.

    First, Hewitt's question:

    "Mr. Trump, Dr. Carson just referenced the single most important job of the president, the command, the control and the care of our nuclear forces. And he mentioned the triad. The B-52s are older than I am. The missiles are old. The submarines are aging out. It's an executive order. It's a commander-in-chief decision.

    "What's your priority among our nuclear triad?"

    No matter how little you know about the makeup of our nuclear forces, it's clear Hewitt is suggesting the technologies we use to deliver a nuclear attack are too old, and asking Trump what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining them. Right? You'd have to be completely ignorant, an utter buffoon with the intelligence of an earthworm the other earthworms make fun of for being dumb not to get the gist of what Hewitt is asking here.

    And yet.

    This was Trump's response:

    "Well, first of all, I think we need somebody absolutely that we can trust, who is totally responsible, who really knows what he or she is doing. That is so powerful and so important."

    On the face of it, Trump's first comments may seem reasonable. We do need someone we can trust, who is totally responsible, who knows what he or she is doing when it comes to taking charge of our nuclear arsenal. But this wasn't an introduction to a fuller answer explaining why he knows what he's doing (or what his plans are). To Trump, that was the substantive answer. Listen to Trump for 30 seconds at any of his rallies and you realize that's the entirety of his thought process. "Make America Great Again" is a perfectly fine slogan if you have a plan to make America great again, but with Trump, the slogan is the entire agenda. There is no plan.

    How do we know Trump is responsible enough to handle our nuclear arsenal? He went on:

    "And one of the things that I'm frankly most proud of is that in 2003, 2004, I was totally against going into Iraq because you're going to destabilize the Middle East. I called it. I called it very strongly. And it was very important."

    First of all, Trump is simply lying; he did not, in fact, strongly object to the Iraq War before it began. But even if he was against the Iraq War, that doesn't qualify him to control and maintain the world's largest collection of nuclear bombs. I opposed the war, marching with signs and everything. And please believe me when I tell you I have no business anywhere near a bomb with the power to evaporate a city.

    Trump wasn't done yet.

    "But we have to be extremely vigilant and extremely careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ballgame. Frankly, I would have said get out of Syria; get out – if we didn't have the power of weaponry today. The power is so massive that we can't just leave areas that 50 years ago or 75 years ago we wouldn't care. It was hand-to-hand combat."

    Yes, in 1940 soldiers only fought in hand-to-hand combat. The boxing-related deaths of World War II were truly devastating.

    Again, Trump is right, in a childlike way. We do have to be careful with nuclear; it does change the whole ballgame. But these are generalities borne out of ignorance. In 145 words Trump has yet to approach anything remotely like an answer to Hewitt's question. He hasn't said what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining or upgrading our nukes. He hasn't even said what his principles would be. But surely that's coming soon, right?

    You know what? Let's just finish the exchange.

    Trump: "The biggest problem this world has today is not President Obama with global warming, which is inconceivable, this is what he's saying. The biggest problem we have is nuclear – nuclear proliferation and having some maniac, having some madman go out and get a nuclear weapon. That's in my opinion, that is the single biggest problem that our country faces right now."

    Hewitt: "Of the three legs of the triad, though, do you have a priority? I want to go to Sen. Rubio after that and ask him."

    Trump: "I think – I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me."

    The devastation is very important to him. That flailing nonsense is the best Trump can manage. A reasonably well-informed fifth grader could come up with something better.

    The problem isn't simply that Trump doesn't have detailed plans to make sure our nuclear weapons are safely maintained. The problem is that he doesn't understand even the most basic premise of a relatively simple question. He couldn't muster a "I'll make sure we have the most modern, best nuclear arsenal the world has ever seen," because he didn't know what he was being asked.

    Imagine handing over the nuclear codes to a man with the comprehension skills of Donald J. Trump. Do you honestly believe he would understand the consequences of using them? Trump is obsessed with tough-guy machismo. How much provocation does he need to press that button?

    Trump hasn't walked back any of the racist, ignorant, stupid things he's said over the course of the campaign, and he certainly won't admit to making a mistake last night. But his inability to muster ten remotely sensible words about what he would do as president with the most destructive collection of weapons in the history of mankind should be an automatic disqualifier for the presidency.

    This moment should be the beginning of the end for his campaign. Just like all the other moments should have been.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trumps-terrifying-nuke-answer-at-the-debate-should-end-his-campaign-but-it-wont-20151216?page=2

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't) Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering

    Just give it up, the media isn't your friend trust me - they are fully out to stop Trump.

    At this point you're either with Trump or you're with Hillary, there's no in between because those are the only two people who have a chance to win the presidency.

  • And remember as soon as they stop Trump they will turn their fire on Teddy or John.

    WSS

  • And remember as soon as they stop Trump they will turn their fire on Teddy or John.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And remember as soon as they stop Trump they will turn their fire on Teddy or John.

    WSS

    No doubt.

    I thought it was strange Obama was just complaining the other day about Trump getting a microphone and saying whatever he wants without being challenged by the media and then Matthews comes after Trump full force. Matthews probably getting some high fives with his liberal pals at MSNBC and maybe a call from the WH.

    US election: Obama blames media for Trump's success

    US President Barack Obama has said the media is partly to blame for the rise of Republican Donald Trump as a political force.

    Speaking at an event for political reporters, Mr Obama said it was not enough to give "someone a microphone".

    In a reference to Mr Trump's domination of the news cycle, the president said the job of a political reporter was "more than just handing someone a microphone".

    Billions of dollars in free media should come with serious accountability, especially when politicians issue unworkable plans or make promises they cannot keep, he said.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35919186

  • Obama was complaining about that? 99% of the things they say on every network is anti Trump.

    WSS

  • Not only that Steve look at how the liberal media has always fawned all over Obama and given him favorable coverage but Obama doesn't think they are being tough enough on Trump. Give me a break.

  • Obama was complaining about that? 99% of the things they say on every network is anti Trump.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Obama was complaining about that? 99% of the things they say on every network is anti Trump.

    WSS

    Which is another way of saying 99% of the things they say on every network is trump-related.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Obama was complaining about that? 99% of the things they say on every network is anti Trump.

    WSS

    Which is another way of saying 99% of the things they say on every network is trump-related.

    @gftchris said:

    Which is another way of saying 99% of the things they say on every network is trump-related.

    It is, but if anybody else got the same amount of negative and misleading publicity as Trump did I don't think they'd survive like he has - it's pretty impressive he managed to win the nomination considering they pushed the narrative that he's racist, sexist, his supporters are violent, he's hitler, etc, etc.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Obama was complaining about that? 99% of the things they say on every network is anti Trump.

    WSS

    Which is another way of saying 99% of the things they say on every network is trump-related.

    @gftchris said:

    Which is another way of saying 99% of the things they say on every network is trump-related.

    Yes indeed.

    Is that good or bad? Publicity is great but I hear so many people repeating bullshit because the news media doesn't feel the need to use a truth filter when it comes to Trump.

    WSS