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  • All but 1 (the first one) were on Goff.

    Those 4 throws had: a bad decision, a first-read lock, an overthrow and a breakdown.

    Four bad, bad throws.

    Here's a good video making the rounds today:

    Ben Fennell@BenFennell_NFL
    Goff... You dogggg, you! (2014). The subtle slide. The anticipation. The placement. Coming to a Sunday near you!

    He throws off balance and short-arms it. Bad decision. Not a great throw. But it works. Good anticipation.

  • All but 1 (the first one) were on Goff.

    Those 4 throws had: a bad decision, a first-read lock, an overthrow and a breakdown.

    Four bad, bad throws.

    Here's a good video making the rounds today:

    Ben Fennell@BenFennell_NFL
    Goff... You dogggg, you! (2014). The subtle slide. The anticipation. The placement. Coming to a Sunday near you!

    He throws off balance and short-arms it. Bad decision. Not a great throw. But it works. Good anticipation.

    @mike-h said:

    All but 1 (the first one) were on Goff.

    Those 4 throws had: a bad decision, a first-read lock, an overthrow and a breakdown.

    Four bad, bad throws.

    Here's a good video making the rounds today:

    https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/715941609234436096/video/1

    He throws off balance and short-arms it. Bad decision. Not a great throw. But it works. Good anticipation.

    Maybe it worked at Cal.....not so sure about the NFL.

  • That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.

    Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.

    There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.

  • That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.

    Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.

    There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.

    @mike-h said:

    That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.

    Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.

    There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.

    This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.

    People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.

    People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.

    People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"

    Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.

  • @mike-h said:

    That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.

    Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.

    There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.

    This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.

    People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.

    People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.

    People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"

    Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.

    People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.

    People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.

    People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"

    Isn't that what I said?

    Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.

  • @mike-h said:

    Entire NFL draft debate/dilemma concisely summarized by TCPO.

    We can get back to more important topics now, like Trump's hair piece.

    You think that's fake? I don't think its fake. Is it really fake?

  • @mike-h said:

    That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.

    Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.

    There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.

    This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.

    People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.

    People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.

    People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"

    Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.

    People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.

    People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.

    People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"

    Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.

    In a nutshell, good summary.
  • Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.

  • Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.

    In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.

    (just not you know who 😉 )

    WSS

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.

    In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.

    (just not you know who 😉 )

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.

    (just not you know who 😉 )

    WSS

    Jackson isn't a substance abuse counselor.

  • The Browns can't afford to take any more chances on

    just physical talent anymore.

  • @westside-steve said:

    In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.

    (just not you know who 😉 )

    WSS

    Jackson isn't a substance abuse counselor.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Jackson isn't a substance abuse counselor.

    I never said he was, this just sounds like asshole kid behavior, not some sort of gutter alcoholic.

    I figured the coach might believe he could set him on the straight and narrow.

    WSS



  • Browns Reportedly Prefer Jared Goff To Carson Wentz http://bit.ly/23upnNJ #Browns #NFL


  • so, it's definately Wentz then...

  • I knew I liked this FO for some reason...

  • Jared Goff was far and away the Browns Top QB. They only liked 1 QB.

    3:42 AM - 23 Apr 2016

  • I have more twitter followers than he does.

  • Time seems about right for a Goff-guy to dredge up this oldie... 🙂

    Jury is still out, not ready to gloat.... yet... but after a mixed debut in bad weather, Jared played well vs. Saints in NOLA... not the toughest Defensive test in the league, but it's not nothing.

    In another thread I just cited Bill Polian's comment on NFL Insiders previewing last nite's DAL/MN tilt. In the same show he talked about Goff, who he traveled to NOLA to see in person. Here's the gist of his take:

    There's no comparison between the Goff we saw struggle in preseason and the one who took the field Sunday. He now has command of the Offense as evidenced by not incurring a single delay penalty in a very noisy dome. And he made every throw you'd expect a #1 pick to make. Clearly he has room to improve more as he is not yet ready to compete in a shoot-out like the one the Saints created, but for the first time the Rams can feel good about their pick... and they do.

    I spoke to the Rams staff before the game about what they thought I'd see from Jared and "command" was their answer. He has learned not just the play calling, which was a problem, but also has developed a firm grasp of the offense conceptually.

    The Rams had a plan for him, stuck to it and are now positioned to reap the benefits.

    Here's his line from the Saints' game: 20/32 for 214 yards with 3 TDs and 1 INT