Camp Goff
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All of them.
lol...
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All of them.
lol...
lol...
Probably not.....I would have to review the film. Most were on him....but the QB always gets the blame, even if it isn't really his fault.
Since you seem to think you know what happened in that game so intimately....give us your views.....off the top of your head.
Don't bother. Here is the film:
I would say 3 for sure were his fault. One was not. One other could be considered either way.
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All but 1 (the first one) were on Goff.
Those 4 throws had: a bad decision, a first-read lock, an overthrow and a breakdown.
Four bad, bad throws.
Here's a good video making the rounds today:
Ben Fennell@BenFennell_NFLGoff... You dogggg, you! (2014). The subtle slide. The anticipation. The placement. Coming to a Sunday near you!He throws off balance and short-arms it. Bad decision. Not a great throw. But it works. Good anticipation.
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All but 1 (the first one) were on Goff.
Those 4 throws had: a bad decision, a first-read lock, an overthrow and a breakdown.
Four bad, bad throws.
Here's a good video making the rounds today:
Ben Fennell@BenFennell_NFLGoff... You dogggg, you! (2014). The subtle slide. The anticipation. The placement. Coming to a Sunday near you!He throws off balance and short-arms it. Bad decision. Not a great throw. But it works. Good anticipation.
All but 1 (the first one) were on Goff.
Those 4 throws had: a bad decision, a first-read lock, an overthrow and a breakdown.
Four bad, bad throws.
Here's a good video making the rounds today:
https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/715941609234436096/video/1
He throws off balance and short-arms it. Bad decision. Not a great throw. But it works. Good anticipation.
Maybe it worked at Cal.....not so sure about the NFL.
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That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.
Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.
There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.
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That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.
Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.
There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.
That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.
Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.
There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.
This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.
People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.
People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.
People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"
Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.
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That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.
Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.
There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.
This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.
People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.
People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.
People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"
Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.
This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.
People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.
People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.
People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"
Isn't that what I said?
Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.
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@mike-h said:
Entire NFL draft debate/dilemma concisely summarized by TCPO.
We can get back to more important topics now, like Trump's hair piece.
You think that's fake? I don't think its fake. Is it really fake?
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That clip prompted alleged NFL draft expert Matt Miller at Bleacher Report to tweet "QB1" --- People see what they want to see, and none of it matters unless you work for one of the teams. Miller, Rob Rang, and any other media prognosticator isn't talented enough to get a job with one of the 32 teams.
Daniel Jeremiah is the one exception to my rule on that, IMO.
There isn't much in that clip for me to get excited about.
This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.
People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.
People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.
People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"
Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.
In a nutshell, good summary.This clip shows one thing and one thing only - confirmation bias. Just like you said.
People who don't like Goff will see a poor PA fake, short armed throw and an absolutely ugly pass.
People who do like Goff will see a decent side step, great anticipation and perfect ball placement.
People who don't care either way will see both and wonder "it's impressive, yet how often will that work in the NFL?"
Goff is a good talent. If Goff can thread the same needles in the NFL, he'll be a great pro. Just like people pile on Wentz that the speed of the game will change, the speed changes the exact same for Goff. That's really all there is to it.
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sad, but what a difference a night on the town makes. dui.
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Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.
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Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.
In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.
(just not you know who
)WSS
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In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.Catching a DUI on spring break a year after getting into a drunken brawl at spring break will likely not help his draft position. Browns could draft him but they just have to cage him up on spring break.
(just not you know who
)WSS
In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.
(just not you know who
)WSS
Jackson isn't a substance abuse counselor.
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The Browns can't afford to take any more chances on
just physical talent anymore.
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In most cases, but it seems that coach Jackson sees himself as a redeemer of Lost Souls. Kaepernick, Griffin and Pryor all failed quarterbacks with attitude problems.
(just not you know who
)WSS
Jackson isn't a substance abuse counselor.
Jackson isn't a substance abuse counselor.
I never said he was, this just sounds like asshole kid behavior, not some sort of gutter alcoholic.
I figured the coach might believe he could set him on the straight and narrow.
WSS
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so, it's definately Wentz then...
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Jared Goff was far and away the Browns Top QB. They only liked 1 QB.
3:42 AM - 23 Apr 2016
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