Our next President...

gftChris

@the-cysko-kid said:
Levels off at more than 11 million. Bfd. Amirite?

Point being that it's levelled off since Obama came in to office it hasn't really increased despite what BreitBlaze would have you believe.

DieHardBrownsFan

I'd love to know where they get these figures from? Do they have people with counters at the border when they leave and return? Its bullshit.

The Cysko Kid

@gftchris said:
Point being that it's levelled off since Obama came in to office it hasn't really increased despite what BreitBlaze would have you believe.

Or...has Obamao made the us so shitty that even Mexico looks better by comparison?

gftChris

@the-cysko-kid said:
Or...has Obamao made the us so shitty that even Mexico looks better by comparison?

Sure. You actually believe that?

LogicIsForSquares

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I'd love to know where they get these figures from? Do they have people with counters at the border when they leave and return? Its bullshit.

They count how many gift bags were grabbed when they passed over the border.

LogicIsForSquares

@gftchris said:
Sure. You actually believe that?

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/

"The views Mexicans have of life north of the border are changing too. While almost half (48%) of adults in Mexico believe life is better in the U.S., a growing share says it is neither better nor worse than life in Mexico.Today, a third (33%) of adults in Mexico say those who move to the U.S. lead a life that is equivalent to that in Mexico – a share 10 percentage points higher than in 2007."

The Cysko Kid

@gftchris said:
Sure. You actually believe that?

I thought the Obamao would be a dead giveaway.

The Cysko Kid

I've long said that I think republicans ought to be heavily investing in recruiting Latino and mexican allies. Their basic values are very similar.

The Cysko Kid

Hard working, religious family oriented people with pride. I think they could easily be converted to republicans if certain loudmouths could lay off the racism.

gftChris

@the-cysko-kid said:
Hard working, religious family oriented people with pride. I think they could easily be converted to republicans if certain loudmouths could lay off the racism.

You would think that there would be some synergy there for sure.

LogicIsForSquares

@the-cysko-kid said:
Hard working, religious family oriented people with pride. I think they could easily be converted to republicans if certain loudmouths could lay off the racism.

Indeed. But you can't get some politicians to lay off the rhetoric long enough to appeal to hispanic voters. Nearly all hispanic people I have met/worked with have been devoutly Catholic and not afraid of hard work.

OldBrownsFan

@the-cysko-kid said:
I've long said that I think republicans ought to be heavily investing in recruiting Latino and mexican allies. Their basic values are very similar.

I think that was the plan until Trump. What is ironic is that Trump actually told Romney he lost the election because he was "too harsh on immigration". Trump has single handedly offended about every demographic group it would take to win a general election. The GOP had been working hard to get the Hispanic vote as they will be the deciding voters of the future.

The Cysko Kid

@oldbrownsfan said:

I think that was the plan until Trump. What is ironic is that Trump actually told Romney he lost the election because he was "too harsh on immigration". Trump has single handedly offended about every demographic group it would take to win a general election. The GOP had been working hard to get the Hispanic vote as they will be the deciding voters of the future.

You can be a friend to immigration and an enemy to illegal immigration. Asking people to play by the rules isn't despicable. It's commendable.

Westside Steve

@the-cysko-kid said:
You can be a friend to immigration and an enemy to illegal immigration. Asking people to play by the rules isn't despicable. It's commendable.

Just a few days ago I had a nice conversation with a young engineer from India who pretty much agrees with that sentiment. His father is a cardiologist and he and his wife are all now citizens. It was something of a pain in the ass jumping through hoops but he did it. He really doesn't like the idea people just jumping the fence and being handed citizenship without earning it. I agree with him.

WSS

LogicIsForSquares

@westside-steve said:

Just a few days ago I had a nice conversation with a young engineer from India who pretty much agrees with that sentiment. His father is a cardiologist and he and his wife are all now citizens. It was something of a pain in the ass jumping through hoops but he did it. He really doesn't like the idea people just jumping the fence and being handed citizenship without earning it. I agree with him.

WSS

I have several coworkers who are from all over the world. They share this opinion. A coworker's husband is from Ireland and he joked that at one point he was going to just fly to Mexico and hop the border.

calfoxwc

the trouble is, you can get data to reflect information the way you want it to.

Sometimes, legitimately,

sometimes, deceitfully.

calfoxwc

calfoxwc

calfoxwc

and, then there's the warnings, and contradictory graph about ObaMao:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2014/02/daily-chart-5

calfoxwc

grew dramatically under Clinton and Bush...

leveled off dramatically under ObaMao. and now,

ObaMao has ordered illegals to be released and not

held when captured.