Brian Hoyer released by Texans
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Never thought Hoyer was good. He won some games but this whole hype about him being Brady's backup was crazy. I honestly think he was just as good as Brandon Weeden.
Never thought Hoyer was good. He won some games but this whole hype about him being Brady's backup was crazy. I honestly think he was just as good as Brandon Weeden.
Weeden definitely was more physically gifted but he made some really piss poor decisions, I mean really really realllllly bad ones. While Hoyer crumbles under pressure, he was a much better game manager than Weeden ever was. Hoyer was, unfortunately, the best QB we've had since Anderson's fluke year.
But when you're talking who's the better QB your team had, and it's between Weeden and Hoyer, it's pretty sad...
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Never thought Hoyer was good. He won some games but this whole hype about him being Brady's backup was crazy. I honestly think he was just as good as Brandon Weeden.
Weeden definitely was more physically gifted but he made some really piss poor decisions, I mean really really realllllly bad ones. While Hoyer crumbles under pressure, he was a much better game manager than Weeden ever was. Hoyer was, unfortunately, the best QB we've had since Anderson's fluke year.
But when you're talking who's the better QB your team had, and it's between Weeden and Hoyer, it's pretty sad...
Weeden definitely was more physically gifted but he made some really piss poor decisions, I mean really really realllllly bad ones. While Hoyer crumbles under pressure, he was a much better game manager than Weeden ever was. Hoyer was, unfortunately, the best QB we've had since Anderson's fluke year.
But when you're talking who's the better QB your team had, and it's between Weeden and Hoyer, it's pretty sad...
Yep, he had some good games but got figured out for who he was and teams destroyed him with that info. It's easy to forget that the Browns run game was dominant that season before it all fell apart. It became a pretty simple model with him: stop the run, blitz and he'll crumble.
With that being said he's shown enough to be a solid back-up somewhere.
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Hoyers the kind of QB that needs some really smart WR's around him that run their routes "precisely"....cause he can't make up for their route deficiencies. Especially on deep balls cause he has to put more air under them than say a Rogers or someone like that. If the WR didn't run his route right that ball comes down with a lot of the opposing secondary nearby. Like Weedon, there's certain throws that Hoyer just can't make and opposing teams learn that and take those routes away daring them to beat them on the routes they don't throw well.
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Hoyers the kind of QB that needs some really smart WR's around him that run their routes "precisely"....cause he can't make up for their route deficiencies. Especially on deep balls cause he has to put more air under them than say a Rogers or someone like that. If the WR didn't run his route right that ball comes down with a lot of the opposing secondary nearby. Like Weedon, there's certain throws that Hoyer just can't make and opposing teams learn that and take those routes away daring them to beat them on the routes they don't throw well.
Hoyers the kind of QB that needs some really smart WR's around him that run their routes "precisely"....
... and a ground game he can PA off. Needing both is the case with most "timing" QBs. Only way they can compensate for their lack of arm talent.
Still plenty of teams that need QB depth out there. Brian is the kind of QB that could win a game or two while a starter recoups from an injury
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Hoyers the kind of QB that needs some really smart WR's around him that run their routes "precisely"....
... and a ground game he can PA off. Needing both is the case with most "timing" QBs. Only way they can compensate for their lack of arm talent.
Still plenty of teams that need QB depth out there. Brian is the kind of QB that could win a game or two while a starter recoups from an injury
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I thought this happened some time ago.
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jets look like they might sign him just to fuck fitzpatrick.
hoyer>fitzpatrick for the 2nd time in 2 years. HA!
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He just didn't have enough weapons here, bring him back and we have a super bowl guaranteed!
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He just didn't have enough weapons here, bring him back and we have a super bowl guaranteed!
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He sat behind Brady, he can sit behind RG III. Nah- we're not bringing him back- he sailed his ship to Houston, he's not in our rebuilding future plans.
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He sat behind Brady, he can sit behind RG III. Nah- we're not bringing him back- he sailed his ship to Houston, he's not in our rebuilding future plans.
In all seriousness, he's just another example of the realization that we just as an organization have had shitty QB's. It wasn't because they didn't have a good line, great weapons or a dominant defense blah blah blah. These guys just sucked, went to objectively better teams and still sucked. You can go down the list and realize it's not just a trend.
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Hoyer is basically a top tier backup in this league. Which means he'll keep getting tried out as a starter when he's on teams that have no starter.
Not bad work for an udfa ... good for him.
Zombo
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Hoyer is basically a top tier backup in this league. Which means he'll keep getting tried out as a starter when he's on teams that have no starter.
Not bad work for an udfa ... good for him.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Hoyer is basically a top tier backup in this league. Which means he'll keep getting tried out as a starter when he's on teams that have no starter.
Not bad work for an udfa ... good for him.
Zombo
So, he's Josh McCown?
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Zombo said:
Hoyer is basically a top tier backup in this league. Which means he'll keep getting tried out as a starter when he's on teams that have no starter.
Not bad work for an udfa ... good for him.
Zombo
So, he's Josh McCown?
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Yesterday I heard reasonable speculation he'll end up in Denver who only needs a game manager. And in 2015 BH completed 60% of his passes and had a 19/7 TD/INT ratio...
Not bad...
Did gag his first career playoff game badly, but it was his first career playoff game. Better QBs than he have shit down their leg their first time out in the playoffs.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yesterday I heard reasonable speculation he'll end up in Denver who only needs a game manager. And in 2015 BH completed 60% of his passes and had a 19/7 TD/INT ratio...
Not bad...
Did gag his first career playoff game badly, but it was his first career playoff game. Better QBs than he have shit down their leg their first time out in the playoffs.
Yesterday I heard reasonable speculation he'll end up in Denver who only needs a game manager. And in 2015 BH completed 60% of his passes and had a 19/7 TD/INT ratio...
Not bad...
Did gag his first career playoff game badly, but it was his first career playoff game. Better QBs than he have shit down their leg their first time out in the playoffs.
Carson Palmer comes to mind. Andy Dalton, too.
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He sat behind Brady, he can sit behind RG III. Nah- we're not bringing him back- he sailed his ship to Houston, he's not in our rebuilding future plans.
In all seriousness, he's just another example of the realization that we just as an organization have had shitty QB's. It wasn't because they didn't have a good line, great weapons or a dominant defense blah blah blah. These guys just sucked, went to objectively better teams and still sucked. You can go down the list and realize it's not just a trend.
In all seriousness, he's just another example of the realization that we just as an organization have had shitty QB's. It wasn't because they didn't have a good line, great weapons or a dominant defense blah blah blah. These guys just sucked, went to objectively better teams and still sucked. You can go down the list and realize it's not just a trend.
I agree whole heartedly. Since Tim Couch I think that Hoyer is probably the only former Browns QB that actually started a postseason game (or maybe Garcia?). And does anyone think that Hoyer was the primary cog in the DATs playoff run? Hell no. Their defense was, and Hoyer only played half their games.
That 4 Int. performance in their playoff game sure soured the DATs on Hoyer.
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Hoyer is basically a top tier backup in this league. Which means he'll keep getting tried out as a starter when he's on teams that have no starter.
Not bad work for an udfa ... good for him.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Hoyer is basically a top tier backup in this league. Which means he'll keep getting tried out as a starter when he's on teams that have no starter.
Not bad work for an udfa ... good for him.
Zombo
So? Would you start Fitzpatrick or Hoyer if it were up to you?
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Yesterday I heard reasonable speculation he'll end up in Denver who only needs a game manager. And in 2015 BH completed 60% of his passes and had a 19/7 TD/INT ratio...
Not bad...
Did gag his first career playoff game badly, but it was his first career playoff game. Better QBs than he have shit down their leg their first time out in the playoffs.
Yesterday I heard reasonable speculation he'll end up in Denver who only needs a game manager. And in 2015 BH completed 60% of his passes and had a 19/7 TD/INT ratio...
Not bad...
Did gag his first career playoff game badly, but it was his first career playoff game. Better QBs than he have shit down their leg their first time out in the playoffs.
Would you start Hoyer or Sanchez?
And what is happening to the Kaepernick to Denver trade possibility?
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Fitz over Hoyer over Sanchez.
Fitz's problem (actually the Jet's problem) is that he wants some of this money other low level starters are scarfing up.
Zombo
--Always sign guys for two years
Zombo said:
Fitz over Hoyer over Sanchez.
Fitz's problem (actually the Jet's problem) is that he wants some of this money other low level starters are scarfing up.
Zombo
--Always sign guys for two years
So? You think Denver should grab him?
Or, do you think that Denver may be playing the game of starting a has been for a year, and hope they get their future QB either lower in the draft, or next year?
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