Submarine Hillary has changed target, Trump now in cross hairs
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Well I can't tell you who to vote for and not to vote for. TO me th answer, if not perfect, is clear.
As the process went on my favorite candidates dropped out one by one and though he wasn't my last choice Donald Trump I was far from my first.
I can't imagine how you think the Hillary and the Democrats will be friendly to your list of wishes. Shrink the welfare state? Not a chance in the world, it will expand beyond your wildest dreams.
Have a clue about foreign affairs? How has that gone for the last three four five Etc presidents?
As a matter of fact no president in my memory has been an expert on International affairs and has selected a team to handle that. Barack Obama selected Hillary and a bunch of other morons who have done a terrible job in my opinion. Donald Trump will assemble a team. I can't imagine they'd be much worse and quite possibly would be better.
You say he hasn't mentioned chipping away at the national debt? You are either too hostile or just not listening. One plan that's been mentioned, the Penny Plan, requires eliminating one penny from every dollar. Assume that wouldn't even be noticed, like removing one of the olives from an airline's salad, saves a ton of money. Remember that the overblown shutting down the government battles have been over a mouth hovering around one-and-a-half percent.
As for women at some point they will have to decide whether they want to be equal members of society or want to be protected by patriarchal men, it's as simple as that.
But I will repeat, and you should remember, that the current president nor any president, can't be an expert on the job he has to do. All he can do is assemble experts who will guide United States policy.
Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.
And as for wishing for another candidate? Unfortunately the stupid process has eliminated that from ever happening. But it is what it is.
As far as I'm concerned the best hope is an independent run from Bernie Sanders to siphon off votes from the Wicked Witch of the West Wing. Then cross your fingers that Donald Trump picks the right team.
WSS
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Well I can't tell you who to vote for and not to vote for. TO me th answer, if not perfect, is clear.
As the process went on my favorite candidates dropped out one by one and though he wasn't my last choice Donald Trump I was far from my first.
I can't imagine how you think the Hillary and the Democrats will be friendly to your list of wishes. Shrink the welfare state? Not a chance in the world, it will expand beyond your wildest dreams.
Have a clue about foreign affairs? How has that gone for the last three four five Etc presidents?
As a matter of fact no president in my memory has been an expert on International affairs and has selected a team to handle that. Barack Obama selected Hillary and a bunch of other morons who have done a terrible job in my opinion. Donald Trump will assemble a team. I can't imagine they'd be much worse and quite possibly would be better.
You say he hasn't mentioned chipping away at the national debt? You are either too hostile or just not listening. One plan that's been mentioned, the Penny Plan, requires eliminating one penny from every dollar. Assume that wouldn't even be noticed, like removing one of the olives from an airline's salad, saves a ton of money. Remember that the overblown shutting down the government battles have been over a mouth hovering around one-and-a-half percent.
As for women at some point they will have to decide whether they want to be equal members of society or want to be protected by patriarchal men, it's as simple as that.
But I will repeat, and you should remember, that the current president nor any president, can't be an expert on the job he has to do. All he can do is assemble experts who will guide United States policy.
Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.
And as for wishing for another candidate? Unfortunately the stupid process has eliminated that from ever happening. But it is what it is.
As far as I'm concerned the best hope is an independent run from Bernie Sanders to siphon off votes from the Wicked Witch of the West Wing. Then cross your fingers that Donald Trump picks the right team.
WSS
Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.
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WSS
Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),
opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.
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Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.
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WSS
Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),
opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.
Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),
opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.
But it doesn't have to be. The only reason it is....is because conservatives are so got damn intellectually lazy that they can't go to the legal Hispanic voting block and make the proper case. Instead it "always" comes off dooshey and overtly racist as fuck whenever a conservative opens his mouth and talks about immigration. Trump set that effort back 50 years when he talked about their criminals and rapists back stroking the rio grande.
Seriously I could make a case for that wall to actual Hispanics that would have a good chance of flying. Instead Trump made it sound like there's gonna be guys in white hoods patrolling the top of the wall. And no it wasn't some liberal media context filter, I heard his own words. He's an idiot.
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It's been said on here before, when you take the stereotypical hispanic - hard working, family oriented, god fearing - there's a natural synergy with the republican narrative. It would be so easy to win over that bloc and yet it hasn't happened.
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Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),
opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.
But it doesn't have to be. The only reason it is....is because conservatives are so got damn intellectually lazy that they can't go to the legal Hispanic voting block and make the proper case. Instead it "always" comes off dooshey and overtly racist as fuck whenever a conservative opens his mouth and talks about immigration. Trump set that effort back 50 years when he talked about their criminals and rapists back stroking the rio grande.
Seriously I could make a case for that wall to actual Hispanics that would have a good chance of flying. Instead Trump made it sound like there's gonna be guys in white hoods patrolling the top of the wall. And no it wasn't some liberal media context filter, I heard his own words. He's an idiot.
But it doesn't have to be. The only reason it is....is because conservatives are so got damn intellectually lazy that they can't go to the legal Hispanic voting block and make the proper case. Instead it "always" comes off dooshey and overtly racist as fuck whenever a conservative opens his mouth and talks about immigration. Trump set that effort back 50 years when he talked about their criminals and rapists back stroking the rio grande.
Seriously I could make a case for that wall to actual Hispanics that would have a good chance of flying. Instead Trump made it sound like there's gonna be guys in white hoods patrolling the top of the wall. And no it wasn't some liberal media context filter, I heard his own words. He's an idiot.
80% of Central American women who make the journey to cross the US-Mexico border get raped.
So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.
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Well I can't tell you who to vote for and not to vote for. TO me th answer, if not perfect, is clear.
As the process went on my favorite candidates dropped out one by one and though he wasn't my last choice Donald Trump I was far from my first.
I can't imagine how you think the Hillary and the Democrats will be friendly to your list of wishes. Shrink the welfare state? Not a chance in the world, it will expand beyond your wildest dreams.
Have a clue about foreign affairs? How has that gone for the last three four five Etc presidents?
As a matter of fact no president in my memory has been an expert on International affairs and has selected a team to handle that. Barack Obama selected Hillary and a bunch of other morons who have done a terrible job in my opinion. Donald Trump will assemble a team. I can't imagine they'd be much worse and quite possibly would be better.
You say he hasn't mentioned chipping away at the national debt? You are either too hostile or just not listening. One plan that's been mentioned, the Penny Plan, requires eliminating one penny from every dollar. Assume that wouldn't even be noticed, like removing one of the olives from an airline's salad, saves a ton of money. Remember that the overblown shutting down the government battles have been over a mouth hovering around one-and-a-half percent.
As for women at some point they will have to decide whether they want to be equal members of society or want to be protected by patriarchal men, it's as simple as that.
But I will repeat, and you should remember, that the current president nor any president, can't be an expert on the job he has to do. All he can do is assemble experts who will guide United States policy.
Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.
And as for wishing for another candidate? Unfortunately the stupid process has eliminated that from ever happening. But it is what it is.
As far as I'm concerned the best hope is an independent run from Bernie Sanders to siphon off votes from the Wicked Witch of the West Wing. Then cross your fingers that Donald Trump picks the right team.
WSS
And as for wishing for another candidate? Unfortunately the stupid process has eliminated that from ever happening. But it is what it is.
As far as I'm concerned the best hope is an independent run from Bernie Sanders to siphon off votes from the Wicked Witch of the West Wing. Then cross your fingers that Donald Trump picks the right team.
WSS
Steve, I would love for that to happen, but it's maybe a 2% chance.
Trump's rhetoric scares the hell out of me- if he's being sincere about it. Ya know, comments about building a wall, the Muslims, the women insults.
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But it doesn't have to be. The only reason it is....is because conservatives are so got damn intellectually lazy that they can't go to the legal Hispanic voting block and make the proper case. Instead it "always" comes off dooshey and overtly racist as fuck whenever a conservative opens his mouth and talks about immigration. Trump set that effort back 50 years when he talked about their criminals and rapists back stroking the rio grande.
Seriously I could make a case for that wall to actual Hispanics that would have a good chance of flying. Instead Trump made it sound like there's gonna be guys in white hoods patrolling the top of the wall. And no it wasn't some liberal media context filter, I heard his own words. He's an idiot.
80% of Central American women who make the journey to cross the US-Mexico border get raped.
So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.
So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.
no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.
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So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.
no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.
no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.
No he didn't
"They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"
First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.
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Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.
.
WSS
Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),
opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.
Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),
opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.
Unfortunately there is truth in that statement. Just as unfortunate is the fact that opposing illegal immigrants has nothing to do with whether or not you like other immigrants but the media, who are the lap dogs of the Democrat Party, have painted it that way.
You know the drill, repeat the falsehood enough times...
WSS
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And before you reach to the knee-jerk response yes I admit both sides do shit like that.
WSS
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no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.
No he didn't
"They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"
First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.
No he didn't
"They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"
First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.
Full quote:"When mexico sends it's people (as if the Mexican govt is actively sending people over the border), they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. (what does that even mean ofc they're not sending us....idiot). They're sending people that have lots' of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (I'm sure he meant to say TO us but whatever) They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
he said "THEY ARE RAPISTS"...except for a couple of em which he assumes are good people. Sorry Ed. THere's no way to spin that shit.
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No he didn't
"They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"
First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.
Full quote:"When mexico sends it's people (as if the Mexican govt is actively sending people over the border), they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. (what does that even mean ofc they're not sending us....idiot). They're sending people that have lots' of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (I'm sure he meant to say TO us but whatever) They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
he said "THEY ARE RAPISTS"...except for a couple of em which he assumes are good people. Sorry Ed. THere's no way to spin that shit.
Full quote:"When mexico sends it's people (as if the Mexican govt is actively sending people over the border), they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. (what does that even mean ofc they're not sending us....idiot). They're sending people that have lots' of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (I'm sure he meant to say TO us but whatever) They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
he said "THEY ARE RAPISTS"...except for a couple of em which he assumes are good people. Sorry Ed. THere's no way to spin that shit.
When he pointed to the crowd he meant "they're not sending their best, not you (points)" as in the people in the crowd are the best.
And I always viewed it more as
"They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're bring <their> rapists"
I don't see how you interpret it as he thinks every single illegal immigrant is a rapist
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So, left or right, does anyone here believe that foreign governments especially those of third world shitholes, make a practice of sending their criminals Etc to the United States? Columbia? Mexico? Cuba? Yes or no?
WSS
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That whole talking point is only designed to do one thing anyway - ignore the problem he mentioned.
"Yea well the majority of women who cross the border are raped, drug and human trafficking are huge problems - along with other crime - but instead of acknowledging his point say RACIST!"
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I think he thinks that the vast majority fall in one of his neat little categories
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I think he thinks that the vast majority fall in one of his neat little categories
I think he thinks that the vast majority fall in one of his neat little categories
Well for one thing all illegal immigrants are breaking the law.
WSS
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Hillary Clinton spent a million dollars to "correct the record" on reddit, twitter, and facebook.
She has to pay people to defend her on the internet, she's toast.
Ed i'm not in disagreement with you on how distasteful Hillary is. I'm just telling you, Trump has gone out of his way to make himself even more grotesque and distasteful. WHY?
Ed i'm not in disagreement with you on how distasteful Hillary is. I'm just telling you, Trump has gone out of his way to make himself even more grotesque and distasteful. WHY?
Stuart
This is distasteful.

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