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Submarine Hillary has changed target, Trump now in cross hairs

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  • @clevfan4life said:

    But it doesn't have to be. The only reason it is....is because conservatives are so got damn intellectually lazy that they can't go to the legal Hispanic voting block and make the proper case. Instead it "always" comes off dooshey and overtly racist as fuck whenever a conservative opens his mouth and talks about immigration. Trump set that effort back 50 years when he talked about their criminals and rapists back stroking the rio grande.

    Seriously I could make a case for that wall to actual Hispanics that would have a good chance of flying. Instead Trump made it sound like there's gonna be guys in white hoods patrolling the top of the wall. And no it wasn't some liberal media context filter, I heard his own words. He's an idiot.

    80% of Central American women who make the journey to cross the US-Mexico border get raped.

    So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.

    @bbedward said:

    So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.

    no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.

  • @bbedward said:

    So he isn't wrong, and he never said "all mexicans are rapists" which is what the media likes to portray.

    no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.

    @clevfan4life said:

    no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.

    No he didn't

    "They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"

    First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Just remember when you buy into the Litany of phony attacks against the guy (example : he hates immigrants. No he doesn't he opposes illegal immigration as should we all.) that it could be a lot worse. And it will be a lot worse under Hillary.

    .

    WSS

    Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),

    opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.

    @dste-ace said:

    Steve, the problem on the immigration issue is that, to most Hispanics (large voting bloc),

    opposing illegal immigration and hating immigrants is one and the same.

    Unfortunately there is truth in that statement. Just as unfortunate is the fact that opposing illegal immigrants has nothing to do with whether or not you like other immigrants but the media, who are the lap dogs of the Democrat Party, have painted it that way.

    You know the drill, repeat the falsehood enough times...

    WSS

  • And before you reach to the knee-jerk response yes I admit both sides do shit like that.

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    no he said all the illegals coming over here are rapists and murderers. And then an incident happens where an illegal kills someone and automatically it vindicates his broad stroke statement.

    No he didn't

    "They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"

    First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.

    @bbedward said:

    No he didn't

    "They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"

    First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.

    Full quote:"When mexico sends it's people (as if the Mexican govt is actively sending people over the border), they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. (what does that even mean ofc they're not sending us....idiot). They're sending people that have lots' of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (I'm sure he meant to say TO us but whatever) They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

    he said "THEY ARE RAPISTS"...except for a couple of em which he assumes are good people. Sorry Ed. THere's no way to spin that shit.

  • @bbedward said:

    No he didn't

    "They're bringing crime, their rapists, and some I assume are good people"

    First, he didn't say "all illegals are rapists and murderers." Second, he's not wrong about the crime - particularly rape, drug trafficking, and human trafficking that occurs at our southern border.

    Full quote:"When mexico sends it's people (as if the Mexican govt is actively sending people over the border), they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. (what does that even mean ofc they're not sending us....idiot). They're sending people that have lots' of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (I'm sure he meant to say TO us but whatever) They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

    he said "THEY ARE RAPISTS"...except for a couple of em which he assumes are good people. Sorry Ed. THere's no way to spin that shit.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Full quote:"When mexico sends it's people (as if the Mexican govt is actively sending people over the border), they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. (what does that even mean ofc they're not sending us....idiot). They're sending people that have lots' of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (I'm sure he meant to say TO us but whatever) They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

    he said "THEY ARE RAPISTS"...except for a couple of em which he assumes are good people. Sorry Ed. THere's no way to spin that shit.

    When he pointed to the crowd he meant "they're not sending their best, not you (points)" as in the people in the crowd are the best.

    And I always viewed it more as

    "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're bring <their> rapists"

    I don't see how you interpret it as he thinks every single illegal immigrant is a rapist

  • So, left or right, does anyone here believe that foreign governments especially those of third world shitholes, make a practice of sending their criminals Etc to the United States? Columbia? Mexico? Cuba? Yes or no?

    WSS

  • That whole talking point is only designed to do one thing anyway - ignore the problem he mentioned.

    "Yea well the majority of women who cross the border are raped, drug and human trafficking are huge problems - along with other crime - but instead of acknowledging his point say RACIST!"

  • I think he thinks that the vast majority fall in one of his neat little categories

  • I think he thinks that the vast majority fall in one of his neat little categories

    @clevfan4life said:

    I think he thinks that the vast majority fall in one of his neat little categories

    Well for one thing all illegal immigrants are breaking the law.

    WSS

  • @bbedward said:

    Hillary Clinton spent a million dollars to "correct the record" on reddit, twitter, and facebook.

    She has to pay people to defend her on the internet, she's toast.

    Ed i'm not in disagreement with you on how distasteful Hillary is. I'm just telling you, Trump has gone out of his way to make himself even more grotesque and distasteful. WHY?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Ed i'm not in disagreement with you on how distasteful Hillary is. I'm just telling you, Trump has gone out of his way to make himself even more grotesque and distasteful. WHY?

    Stuart

    This is distasteful.

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