No Love for Quinn
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this thread reminds me of a quote on a hunting forum I frequent
"I swear, the IQ of this board drops every day!!"
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this thread reminds me of a quote on a hunting forum I frequent
"I swear, the IQ of this board drops every day!!"
this thread reminds me of a quote on a hunting forum I frequent
"I swear, the IQ of this board drops every day!!"
Thanks for adding that extremely intelligent and informative post.
Reading a thread and then making a post within it concerning it's lack of value or intelligence is like going to a county fair and then talking about how only hillbillies go to the county fair.....Brilliant!
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@inspecta said:
every report you here out of berea says this kid is a gym rat and a film junkie.You may have confused "reports out of Berea" with "posts by shep"
...unless he's doing this stuff between punches.
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@inspecta said:
every report you here out of berea says this kid is a gym rat and a film junkie.You may have confused "reports out of Berea" with "posts by shep"
...unless he's doing this stuff between punches.
You may have confused "reports out of Berea" with "posts by shep"
Absolutely agreed, Lum. Does this guy look like he works out? Absolutely not!
And that terrible lethargy surely leads to no film study. Graduating from Notre Dame with dual degrees in Politcal Science and Finance, I'm sure his study habits are pathetic.
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You may have confused "reports out of Berea" with "posts by shep"
Absolutely agreed, Lum. Does this guy look like he works out? Absolutely not!
And that terrible lethargy surely leads to no film study. Graduating from Notre Dame with dual degrees in Politcal Science and Finance, I'm sure his study habits are pathetic.
Absolutely agreed, Lum. Does this guy look like he works out? Absolutely not!
What does body waxing have to do with this?
FYI, I've heard Anderson say he can bench 4 bills. How's about ole chest wax there, what's he bench?
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What does body waxing have to do with this?
FYI, I've heard Anderson say he can bench 4 bills. How's about ole chest wax there, what's he bench?
Well, it depends how you look at it. At the combine, he threw up 225 24 times. I'm pretty sure that translates to a max of at least 400. If DA can really bench 400, pigs can fly.
Week 9 at last year, he benched Derek Anderson.
Take your pick.
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What does body waxing have to do with this?
FYI, I've heard Anderson say he can bench 4 bills. How's about ole chest wax there, what's he bench?
Well, it depends how you look at it. At the combine, he threw up 225 24 times. I'm pretty sure that translates to a max of at least 400. If DA can really bench 400, pigs can fly.
Week 9 at last year, he benched Derek Anderson.
Take your pick.
Well, it depends how you look at it. At the combine, he threw up 225 24 times. I'm pretty sure that translates to a max of at least 400. If DA can really bench 400, pigs can fly.
Week 9 at last year, he benched Derek Anderson.
Take your pick.
This is insane! Quinn played well against Denver last year (His first start and ony game he wasn't injured) and they would have won the game had the awful defence not taken a crap on the field. He won the Monday night game against the Bills with a broken finger, and was shut down for the year the game after that. He is NOT going anywhere. BE on the other hand is probably gone. He is a head case and probably will not work well with Mangini. I like the idea of some picks and Steve Smith from the Giants. If they want BE bad enough they will get it done. If not, we have BE signed through this year, can match his restricted FA offer next year, and can Fran-tag him the next year to lock him up for the next 3 seasons. Either way we will be fine.
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You may have confused "reports out of Berea" with "posts by shep"
Absolutely agreed, Lum. Does this guy look like he works out? Absolutely not!
And that terrible lethargy surely leads to no film study. Graduating from Notre Dame with dual degrees in Politcal Science and Finance, I'm sure his study habits are pathetic.
Absolutely agreed, Lum. Does this guy look like he works out? Absolutely not!
And that terrible lethargy surely leads to no film study. Graduating from Notre Dame with dual degrees in Politcal Science and Finance, I'm sure his study habits are pathetic.
Gayest thread ever.
Who's faster, the Green Lantern or Superman?
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if some of you will substitute "can't" with "hasn't" in regards to DA i can almost guarantee i'll post a lot less.
fair enough?
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@shepwrite said:
My concern with Quinn is his ability to go downfield accurately. Because of the injury, that question hasn't been answered.Well, he needs a chance to prove it before they talk trade. Sanchez is not the answer. He's got a bum knee and the running game can't support him right now. Quinn is mobile and COULD go downfield when he played at ND. Just my 2 cents. I say we trade DA to the Niners for a 3rd (or Vernon Davis) and give the guy a chance.
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Well, it depends how you look at it. At the combine, he threw up 225 24 times. I'm pretty sure that translates to a max of at least 400. If DA can really bench 400, pigs can fly.
Week 9 at last year, he benched Derek Anderson.
Take your pick.
This is insane! Quinn played well against Denver last year (His first start and ony game he wasn't injured) and they would have won the game had the awful defence not taken a crap on the field. He won the Monday night game against the Bills with a broken finger, and was shut down for the year the game after that. He is NOT going anywhere. BE on the other hand is probably gone. He is a head case and probably will not work well with Mangini. I like the idea of some picks and Steve Smith from the Giants. If they want BE bad enough they will get it done. If not, we have BE signed through this year, can match his restricted FA offer next year, and can Fran-tag him the next year to lock him up for the next 3 seasons. Either way we will be fine.
Quinn played well against Denver last year (His first start and ony game he wasn't injured) and they would have won the game had the awful defence not taken a crap on the field.
just for the sake of argument....Denver's defense was as pathetic as ours last year.....and he still lost. it could be blamed on our D not stopping a good offense, or it could be blamed on our offense's inability to do anything against another horrid defense.
i remember the defense losing a few other games that a certain unpopular QB was playing in....but that blame was also placed on said QB's shoulders.
take off the glasses.....perception is in the eye of the beholder.....
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@inspecta said:
Embrace the fact that Quinn works harder at being a better pro than Derek Bear. Because it is absolute facthow do you justify this? how can you say what DA does at all outside of games? he even does off-field stuff like kid's football camps. (!)
will it ever be enough?
the guy just has no chance with so many of you, there seems no end to it.
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@inspecta said:
Embrace the fact that Quinn works harder at being a better pro than Derek Bear. Because it is absolute facthow do you justify this? how can you say what DA does at all outside of games? he even does off-field stuff like kid's football camps. (!)
will it ever be enough?
the guy just has no chance with so many of you, there seems no end to it.
how do you justify this? how can you say what DA does at all outside of games? he even does off-field stuff like kid's football camps. (!)
will it ever be enough?
the guy just has no chance with so many of you, there seems no end to it.
The reason is he simply is not a very good QB Bill, and that will always be first and foremost the reason why.
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Quinn played well against Denver last year (His first start and ony game he wasn't injured) and they would have won the game had the awful defence not taken a crap on the field.
just for the sake of argument....Denver's defense was as pathetic as ours last year.....and he still lost. it could be blamed on our D not stopping a good offense, or it could be blamed on our offense's inability to do anything against another horrid defense.
i remember the defense losing a few other games that a certain unpopular QB was playing in....but that blame was also placed on said QB's shoulders.
take off the glasses.....perception is in the eye of the beholder.....
just for the sake of argument....Denver's defense was as pathetic as ours last year.....and he still lost. it could be blamed on our D not stopping a good offense, or it could be blamed on our offense's inability to do anything against another horrid defense.
i remember the defense losing a few other games that a certain unpopular QB was playing in....but that blame was also placed on said QB's shoulders.
take off the glasses.....perception is in the eye of the beholder.....
What is your answer then? DA? His QB rating was less tha 60 2 years ago and he never recovered from that Cinci loss that cost us the playoffs (see record and QB rating last year). All I am saying is give the guy a chance. We drafted him for a reason and Savage was not a complete idiot.
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you still seem hung up on the idea that to say anything negative about quinn means that individual is a raging lumbergh......
im not sitting here armchair quarterbacking.....frankly, i care very little about WHO is under center.....only that that person is competent. i have no faith in anyone on the roster right now, so i dont care who they trade.
just get picks.....if we are rebuilding, we need picks so it doesn't take 3 more years.
im not enamored by quinns play.....in college or in the pros. but im not an ohio native either.
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that position has been known to take awhile for guys to develop, especially w/out a quality vet to mentor from. neither of our current guys have had that. the top 10 QB's in the league still make mistakes regularly, yet everyone overlooks it (except Philly fans). similar to how the league values Braylon more than CLE seems to. our situation might require the better guy to play, even if he won't be the better guy forever.
i like our QB situation and hope we keep them both--as i've said before iron sharpens iron and those guys have shown they can coexist.
it's fan opinion that seems to be the problem. even if BQ starts and falters many will want to give him a two-year leash it seems. i'm ok with the best guy playing regardless and trust the staff to evaluate the talent for me. let the weaker choice develop on the practice field.
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@shepwrite said:
My concern with Quinn is his ability to go downfield accurately. Because of the injury, that question hasn't been answered.It hasn't been answered about any rookie that hasn't even put on a NFL uniform yet either. Why is the grass always seem greener on the other side?
Yet, some would suggest we mortgage our future on a very suspect rookie QB class that features 2 underclassmen who have proved nothing. Let's hand the reins back to Mr. Accuracy Anderson, who isn't afraid to throw into triple coverage and can't hit a 5 yard crossing pattern while a guy that will be paid between 30 and 40 million sits with a clipboard and learns for a year or so. And by the end of the 2010 season we might know if he has what it takes to be a starter in the NFL. In the mean time we will be looking for a new coach and GM who will want to come in a bring in their own QB.
Around and around and around and where it stops nobody knows.
The one thing Lerner said after he fired Savage and RAC is that their biggest problem was they couldn't decide on a QB to run this team. And when he hired Mangini he said, "I can win with Quinn".
Maybe MaryKay Grossi will search the blogs and find another rumor to make these next 9 or 10 days even more disruptive.
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@shepwrite said:
My concern with Quinn is his ability to go downfield accurately. Because of the injury, that question hasn't been answered.It hasn't been answered about any rookie that hasn't even put on a NFL uniform yet either. Why is the grass always seem greener on the other side?
Yet, some would suggest we mortgage our future on a very suspect rookie QB class that features 2 underclassmen who have proved nothing. Let's hand the reins back to Mr. Accuracy Anderson, who isn't afraid to throw into triple coverage and can't hit a 5 yard crossing pattern while a guy that will be paid between 30 and 40 million sits with a clipboard and learns for a year or so. And by the end of the 2010 season we might know if he has what it takes to be a starter in the NFL. In the mean time we will be looking for a new coach and GM who will want to come in a bring in their own QB.
Around and around and around and where it stops nobody knows.
The one thing Lerner said after he fired Savage and RAC is that their biggest problem was they couldn't decide on a QB to run this team. And when he hired Mangini he said, "I can win with Quinn".
Maybe MaryKay Grossi will search the blogs and find another rumor to make these next 9 or 10 days even more disruptive.
It hasn't been answered about any rookie that hasn't even put on a NFL uniform yet either. Why is the grass always seem greener on the other side?
Yet, some would suggest we mortgage our future on a very suspect rookie QB class that features 2 underclassmen who have proved nothing. Let's hand the reins back to Mr. Accuracy Anderson, who isn't afraid to throw into triple coverage and can't hit a 5 yard crossing pattern while a guy that will be paid between 30 and 40 million sits with a clipboard and learns for a year or so. And by the end of the 2010 season we might know if he has what it takes to be a starter in the NFL. In the mean time we will be looking for a new coach and GM who will want to come in a bring in their own QB.
Around and around and around and where it stops nobody knows.
The one thing Lerner said after he fired Savage and RAC is that their biggest problem was they couldn't decide on a QB to run this team. And when he hired Mangini he said, "I can win with Quinn".
Maybe MaryKay Grossi will search the blogs and find another rumor to make these next 9 or 10 days even more disruptive.
Brady Quinn threw into blatant triple coverage twice and when he got yanked there were four red, white, and navy jerseys closer than anything resembling orange and brown.
deep balls sail but for the most part DA's long balls are easily catchable. he vastly improved his short game touch from '07 to '08 but could improve more.
not horrible for a guy who began cultivating his short pass while in the pros.
from my perspective there's a lot of bias in your post y-town.
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@shepwrite said:
My concern with Quinn is his ability to go downfield accurately. Because of the injury, that question hasn't been answered.It hasn't been answered about any rookie that hasn't even put on a NFL uniform yet either. Why is the grass always seem greener on the other side?
Yet, some would suggest we mortgage our future on a very suspect rookie QB class that features 2 underclassmen who have proved nothing. Let's hand the reins back to Mr. Accuracy Anderson, who isn't afraid to throw into triple coverage and can't hit a 5 yard crossing pattern while a guy that will be paid between 30 and 40 million sits with a clipboard and learns for a year or so. And by the end of the 2010 season we might know if he has what it takes to be a starter in the NFL. In the mean time we will be looking for a new coach and GM who will want to come in a bring in their own QB.
Around and around and around and where it stops nobody knows.
The one thing Lerner said after he fired Savage and RAC is that their biggest problem was they couldn't decide on a QB to run this team. And when he hired Mangini he said, "I can win with Quinn".
Maybe MaryKay Grossi will search the blogs and find another rumor to make these next 9 or 10 days even more disruptive.
And when he hired Mangini he said, "I can win with Quinn".
Mangini never said it on the record, somebody at the OBR had reported that they heard it from someone else.
While I know that it's basically become the holy grail for BQ Nation, keep in mind that there's a pretty damn good chance that it was never said. Especially now with BQ clearly out on the trade block.
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