Swarming defenses outweigh franchise QB's.
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it seems like the past regime was adament about building the D. too bad none of their picks have panned out as planned.
key to building anything is to make sure the building blocks aren't made of butter.
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it seems like the past regime was adament about building the D. too bad none of their picks have panned out as planned.
key to building anything is to make sure the building blocks aren't made of butter.
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Yep. Again, look at the current champsWho said defense can't score points, or at very least put an average offense in position to score easy points
Yep. Again, look at the current champs
Current doesn't stay current for too long..They don't get there without Manning..
Lets see how average they are this season...
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Building a franchise D is easier than finding a franchise QB.
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Building a franchise D is easier than finding a franchise QB.
Building a franchise D is easier than finding a franchise QB.
If it were that easy .. Everyone would do it..
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Will do.
Dude seriously I've been stressed out today and it's getting to me. I read this man thanks for the laugh. Very cool.Will do.
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Building a franchise D is easier than finding a franchise QB.
Building a franchise D is easier than finding a franchise QB.
Our regimes have made everything look hard to do.
Here's why I think we should build an offense first:
1) With a good offense you're never really out of a game.
2) You may be able to outscore teams to cover for your defense and win games.
3) The games most probably will be more exciting and more entertaining to the masses.
With a good offense we MIGHT even make the playoffs...or contend for them.
As has been said, you need both if you want to be a champion as the defense is the separator once you make the playoffs.
And on offense you HAVE TO be able to pass the ball well. Again, some sort of 'feared' balance is needed (you have to be able to run the ball somewhat at least).
A good defense cannot score enough points to cover for an inept offense.
When you come to the conclusion that you DON'T have a good enough QB, then you have to step back up to the plate and try to hit the home run......again......and again.....until you DO get your QB, because...the position is just that important to success these days. It doesn't have to be a Tom Brady (though that's the goal) but it can't be a backup quality QB as your starter.
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no, no, no.
doesn't matter which one you build first, you try to build both - the best building blocks
as you can get them.
If Brady had been drafted by the Browns, nobody would know who he was - it's the Arcie Manning
syndrome - you can't win without the pieces in place.
Now, a swarming defense is eleven guys playing in sync. A true, elite franchise qb is only one player.
11 > 1. Now, seriously - Peyton Manniing took a playoff caliber team to the superbowl and won it.
The Broncos got to the playoffs in 2011...with freaking Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow, the latter saved their
season. Orton started, they lost a few games, and then Tim Tebow took over.
Tim Tebow was a popsickle stick.
But Denver had most of the pieces in place. The qb made the difference, and Tebow isn't an
elite franchise qb.
Building a football team to win, is like the old mousetrap game racing another mousetrap game. You have to
get all the right pieces in place, or the mouse won't be trapped. It does't work. Now, you are missing a few pieces,
sure, you can duct tape a popsickle stick into the mousetrap and make it work... if you have a good popsickle stick.
Past regimes of the Browns just didn't get it. They were like "say, we want our mousetrap game to work, let's use
this expensive pencil, and a few grapes and an avacado, and try to make the mousetrap work".
Nah. Hue and Co are way, way too smart and experienced for that. They get it.
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Brady won his first 3 SB's with a swarming defense and the best kicker ever. He's above average, not special.
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Brady won his first 3 SB's with a swarming defense and the best kicker ever. He's above average, not special.
Brady won his first 3 SB's with a swarming defense and the best kicker ever. He's above average, not special.
Yea, I don't think you are going to get many people to agree with you. Brady is top 3 QBs ever.
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Brady won his first 3 SB's with a swarming defense and the best kicker ever. He's above average, not special.
He's above average, not special.
Yes and only the best damn QB in modern times.. Go back to school , Charlie.
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D should always be stronger than O. Short of an Aaron Rodgers, build your D and develop a competent offense.
D should always be stronger than O. Short of an Aaron Rodgers, build your D and develop a competent offense.
Easier said than done.
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I will always say that a team needs a strong defense. Its my favorite side of the team. DE, DT, & LB are my favorite positions. I know a team needs a productive QB, and a good RB & WR, but I will stick to building a strong defense 100%.
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Loading your D with talent always makes sense. Trent Dilfer was garbage, but he has more rings than Warren Moon, Dan Marino and Pihilip Rivers. Building your D is more realistic than praying for a franchise QB. Sometimes even "franchise" QB's win jack shit. Scoring points is great. Hurting your opponent is better, especially if you get a ring.
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Loading your D with talent always makes sense. Trent Dilfer was garbage, but he has more rings than Warren Moon, Dan Marino and Pihilip Rivers. Building your D is more realistic than praying for a franchise QB. Sometimes even "franchise" QB's win jack shit. Scoring points is great. Hurting your opponent is better, especially if you get a ring.
Loading your D with talent always makes sense. Trent Dilfer was garbage, but he has more rings than Warren Moon, Dan Marino and Pihilip Rivers. Building your D is more realistic than praying for a franchise QB. Sometimes even "franchise" QB's win jack shit. Scoring points is great. Hurting your opponent is better, especially if you get a ring.
having shit QB is no way to build a dynasty
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Did I just read that Brady is above average but not special? Is that terms for being removed from the board? Brady threw 50 tds one year. That's Retarded. How many times has he had a badass WR? Edleman is a system guy, and owes his salary to Tom.
Brady might be the best of all time. I remember a 3rd and 10 where the center stepped on Brady's foot and he fell down with the ball. Instead of covering the ball up and punting, he threw a ROPE to the sideline where his WR made an amazing catch for a 1st down. He threw a dart from his ass cheeks, 12 yards, to his guy that could not have been any better. Obviously this doesn't mean he's the best ever, but it's a play I'll never forget.
He threw it while on his ASS.
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how many times has Brady had a great, superstar TE? When Brady started in
2001 they had Troy Brown, a star college wr who slipped in the draft because he was
5'6"...but an outstanding career. Brown played wr for...well over ten years.
and he had Rod Rutledge, te, 6'5", 265 lbs who caught the first pass from Brady..
terrific blocker, 2nd round draft pick.
interesting to note - the Patriots saw that the big TE made a huge difference in their offense,
and they ended up drafting Gronkowski - 6'5", 265 lbs.... 2nd round...
He had Terry Glenn, whose yards and catches plummeted Brady's first year, first round draft pick..
Brady ended up being a terrific qb who had some tools, and a solid pass protecting offensive line,
with a terrific defense. Good combination, tremendous achieivements. But hardly the greatest
qb ever, smart, quick release...
He just went to a good situation and excelled. If he had gone to a bad situation, he wouldn't have, that's all.
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Did I just read that Brady is above average but not special? Is that terms for being removed from the board? Brady threw 50 tds one year. That's Retarded. How many times has he had a badass WR? Edleman is a system guy, and owes his salary to Tom.
Brady might be the best of all time. I remember a 3rd and 10 where the center stepped on Brady's foot and he fell down with the ball. Instead of covering the ball up and punting, he threw a ROPE to the sideline where his WR made an amazing catch for a 1st down. He threw a dart from his ass cheeks, 12 yards, to his guy that could not have been any better. Obviously this doesn't mean he's the best ever, but it's a play I'll never forget.
He threw it while on his ASS.
Did I just read that Brady is above average but not special? Is that terms for being removed from the board? Brady threw 50 tds one year. That's Retard. How many times has he had a badass WR? Edleman is a system guy, and owes his salary to Tom.
Brady might be the best of all time. I remember a 3rd and 10 where the center stepped on Brady's foot and he fell down with the ball. Instead of covering the ball up and punting, he threw a ROPE to the sideline where his WR made an amazing catch for a 1st down. He threw a dart from his ass cheeks, 12 yards, to his guy that could not have been any better. Obviously this doesn't mean he's the best ever, but it's a play I'll never forget.
He threw it while on his ASS.
Brady had a motivated Randy Moss when he threw 50 TD's. Most of those balls he just chucked up and Moss made a ridiculous adjustment for. Also, he grew up a slightly pudgy kid in the Bay Area with no arm. The older he got the stronger he got. Don't rule out some Barry Bonds BALCO type stuff.
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Most? No...
Tom is great. Certainly deserves to be in the convo of GOAT. But since he still apparently has years to go, the argument for him is incomplete.
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