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Uninformed cry Trump is a Russian agent - Scholar of Russian Geopolitics thinks Trump has a point

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  • C Clevfan4life

    I somewhat agree with that profesdor but at the same time you dont openly threaten nato in public. You tell them behind the scenes itsvtime to pony up or in publuc tou do so very very very tactfully. Doing it like trump did you give putin ammo to go to these small fringe countries and offer them a better deal

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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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    @clevfan4life said:

    I somewhat agree with that profesdor but at the same time you dont openly threaten nato in public. You tell them behind the scenes itsvtime to pony up or in publuc tou do so very very very tactfully. Doing it like trump did you give putin ammo to go to these small fringe countries and offer them a better deal

    Was Trump's rhetoric (or Obama's lack thereof, for that matter) responsible for the Russian military involvement against Georgia, Chechnya, and Ukraine?

    No. The fact is that we aren't going to do a damn thing to protect non-NATO countries. If Russia wants to reabsorb their former Soviet bloc countries, the US will not do anything to stop them because that's how you start a world war.

    As far as publicly calling out NATO, it's not nearly as detrimental as you're making it out to be. NATO's Supreme Commander agrees with Trump (source) for crying out loud. The US, UK, and Poland are the only ones who are paying the agreed upon 2% of their budget on defense of all NATO nations. The rest of the countries are freeloading off of US military power; it's time for a reassessment of that whole situation.

    Again, if you're interested in learning more about this situation check out Dan Carlin's Common Sense podcast episode 305. He talks precisely about individual European nation economies, and how they should be strong enough to build militaries that can stand up to Russia.

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Europe has lived off the USA's Defense dollars for decades. It's about time they pay there fair share.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        We can just give Russia a big red button that says "overcharge" and all will be fine.

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            Спасибо товарищу Путину

            Спасибо товарищу Путину

            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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              Спасибо товарищу Путину

              Спасибо товарищу Путину

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              StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Спасибо товарищу Путину[/size]

              Спасибо товарищу Путину[/size]

              Stuart

              Thanks tovarichoo Putin

              What is Tovarichoo Diehard??

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                how interesting, Putin tells zakaria almost in precise words the same sentiments that i have multiple times over the past few years tried to expound on some of you monkeys to zero avail. But because Putin said Trump is a colorful and brilliant candidate you guys take Putins (and Trumps) load all over your face and rub it in like lotion.

                ic how that works.

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  I somewhat agree with that profesdor but at the same time you dont openly threaten nato in public. You tell them behind the scenes itsvtime to pony up or in publuc tou do so very very very tactfully. Doing it like trump did you give putin ammo to go to these small fringe countries and offer them a better deal

                  Was Trump's rhetoric (or Obama's lack thereof, for that matter) responsible for the Russian military involvement against Georgia, Chechnya, and Ukraine?

                  No. The fact is that we aren't going to do a damn thing to protect non-NATO countries. If Russia wants to reabsorb their former Soviet bloc countries, the US will not do anything to stop them because that's how you start a world war.

                  As far as publicly calling out NATO, it's not nearly as detrimental as you're making it out to be. NATO's Supreme Commander agrees with Trump (source) for crying out loud. The US, UK, and Poland are the only ones who are paying the agreed upon 2% of their budget on defense of all NATO nations. The rest of the countries are freeloading off of US military power; it's time for a reassessment of that whole situation.

                  Again, if you're interested in learning more about this situation check out Dan Carlin's Common Sense podcast episode 305. He talks precisely about individual European nation economies, and how they should be strong enough to build militaries that can stand up to Russia.

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  Very excellent post

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                  @vaportrail said:

                  Was Trump's rhetoric (or Obama's lack thereof, for that matter) responsible for the Russian military involvement against Georgia, Chechnya, and Ukraine?

                  No. The fact is that we aren't going to do a damn thing to protect non-NATO countries. If Russia wants to reabsorb their former Soviet bloc countries, the US will not do anything to stop them because that's how you start a world war.

                  As far as publicly calling out NATO, it's not nearly as detrimental as you're making it out to be. NATO's Supreme Commander agrees with Trump (source) for crying out loud. The US, UK, and Poland are the only ones who are paying the agreed upon 2% of their budget on defense of all NATO nations. The rest of the countries are freeloading off of US military power; it's time for a reassessment of that whole situation.

                  Again, if you're interested in learning more about this situation check out Dan Carlin's Common Sense podcast episode 305. He talks precisely about individual European nation economies, and how they should be strong enough to build militaries that can stand up to Russia.

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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    What was the deal with the CNN interviewer having a pile of Hillary signs in the background?

                    I also liked how he got perennially BTFO for 5 minutes then said "I'd love to have this discussion with you all day, but we're out of time!"

                    Then they promptly cut back to a panel of "analysts" who continued talking shit about Trump.

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                      What was the deal with the CNN interviewer having a pile of Hillary signs in the background?

                      I also liked how he got perennially BTFO for 5 minutes then said "I'd love to have this discussion with you all day, but we're out of time!"

                      Then they promptly cut back to a panel of "analysts" who continued talking shit about Trump.

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      @bbedward said:

                      What was the deal with the CNN interviewer having a pile of Hillary signs in the background?

                      I also liked how he got perennially BTFO for 5 minutes then said "I'd love to have this discussion with you all day, but we're out of time!"

                      Then they promptly cut back to a panel of "analysts" who continued talking shit about Trump.

                      have you tried rubbing it into ur bald spots?

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        I saw somebody post this - seems accurate

                        "Trump Too Offensive To Work With Russia While Trump Is Working For Russia To Start War With Russia Because He Is Too Uninformed About International Relations To Know How To Deal With Russia And Has A Long History Of Dealings With Russia"

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                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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                          Putin isn't necessarily someone I would trust but I will say that the guy was dead on.

                          Side note: there is about zero chance Hillary tries to come to a reasonable relationship with Russia after accusing them of somehow trying to keep her from winning.

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                            Putin isn't necessarily someone I would trust but I will say that the guy was dead on.

                            Side note: there is about zero chance Hillary tries to come to a reasonable relationship with Russia after accusing them of somehow trying to keep her from winning.

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            Side note: there is about zero chance Hillary tries to come to a reasonable relationship with Russia after accusing them of somehow trying to keep her from winning.

                            Yup

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                              Thank god trump wasnt pres though and somebody did something like this to his admin.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                Psssh. Another so called "expert". Next you'll be wanting me to believe them about climate change

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                  F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                  "We're approaching a Cuban Missile Crisis level nuclear confrontation with Russia," he explained. "And there is absolutely no discussion, no debate, about this in the American media."

                                  I was wondering why he said this

                                  because our collective attention spans wont let us think about Russia's military ambitions

                                  past our need to find and collect peekachews....?

                                  check this out - http://www.g-a-i.org/u/2016/08/Report-Skolkvovo-08012016.pdf

                                  “From Russia with Money: Hillary Clinton, the Russian Reset, and Cronyism”

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                                    F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                    Skolkovo
                                    A major part of this technological cooperation included Russian plans to
                                    create its own version of Silicon Valley.23 The research facility, on the outskirts
                                    Moscow, was dubbed “Skolkovo” and would be developed with the cooperation
                                    and investment of major U.S. tech firms.24 In 2010, Cisco pledged a cool $1
                                    billion to Skolkovo, and Google and Intel also jumped on board.25 (All three
                                    happened to be major Clinton Foundation supporters as well—
                                    as we will see, a
                                    significant factor for dozens of companies who became involved with Skolkovo.)

                                    so its more - look at what Trumps sayin - instead of what the crook, liar hag is DOing!

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                                      F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta sat on the board of a small energy company alongside Russian officials that received $35 million from a Putin-connected Russian government fund, a relationship Podesta failed to fully disclose on his federal financial disclosures as required by law.

                                      http://www.allenbwest.com/michellejesse/bombshell-hillarys-ties-russia

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                                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                        And paul manafort was yanikovich's right hand man in the ukraine. Major putin ties there, yanukovich was "his boy" in ukraine

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          'Uninformed people think stupid things' warrants a thread?

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