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  • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Some animals are more equal than others?

    There's a difference between equal and equitable... not all that subtle either.

    But on the other hand the "donate tax" red herring is one of my favs...

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      Some animals are more equal than others?

      There's a difference between equal and equitable... not all that subtle either.

      But on the other hand the "donate tax" red herring is one of my favs...

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      @tour2ma said:

      But on the other hand the "donate tax" red herring is one of my favs...

      Why is it a red herring? You set the example or shut your face. I feel the same way about other hypocrites. (i.e. politicians who bitch about gays and the sanctity of marriage while going on wife number 5)

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        Because it is...

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          Because it is...

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          Because it is...

          Holding someone to their own ideals distracts from the point?

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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            Socialism works SO WELL, starving Venezuelans are EATING ZOO ANIMALS to survive…

            Bernie has been defeated, but his idiot followers still believe socialism is the answer to their poor entitled lives having to pay their absurd college loans with a low wage barista job. Well, they should really take a look at the “socialist paradise” of Venezuela that is so poorly run that starving citizens are now having to kill zoo animals to survive.

            http://therightscoop.com/socialism-works-so-well-starving-venezuelans-are-eating-zoo-animals-to-survive/

            Witnessing a ‘Complete Collapse of Society’ in Venezuela

            http://time.com/4419186/photographing-venezuela-collapse/

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              jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                @tiamat63 said:

                Going to source that comment by chance?

                No because it was a joke.

                Though he did have several family members on the campaign payroll raking in good amounts of money.

                @clevfan4life said:

                Omg not a 4 bdrm holy shit!!! Trumps get around town car is only like a 3 bdrm so this clearly beats that.

                A socialist who doesn't believe in charity and spent a year riling up blue haired hippies about how we need to redistribute the wealth in the country sold out to Clinton then bought a waterfront house for over a half mil. That's kind of ironic.

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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                @bbedward said:

                No because it was a joke.

                Though he did have several family members on the campaign payroll raking in good amounts of money.

                A socialist who doesn't believe in charity and spent a year riling up blue haired hippies about how we need to redistribute the wealth in the country sold out to Clinton then bought a waterfront house for over a half mil. That's kind of ironic.

                I meant a poster on that website used the line you provided. Figured you'd credit your source.

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                  @bbedward said:

                  No because it was a joke.

                  Though he did have several family members on the campaign payroll raking in good amounts of money.

                  A socialist who doesn't believe in charity and spent a year riling up blue haired hippies about how we need to redistribute the wealth in the country sold out to Clinton then bought a waterfront house for over a half mil. That's kind of ironic.

                  I meant a poster on that website used the line you provided. Figured you'd credit your source.

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  I meant a poster on that website used the line you provided. Figured you'd credit your source.

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/18/bernie-sanders-keeps-saying-his-average-donation-is-27-but-it-really-isnt/

                  Bernie always sent emails, posted on Reddit asking for $27, $27, $27. Everywhere.

                  600000/27 = 22222

                  That's my source numb nuts

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                    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by BaconHound
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                    The political buzzwords of my lifetime have really illuminated this country's overall mentality.

                    Flip-Flop, so I can't change my mind I just forge ahead on a stupid idea.

                    Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

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                      The political buzzwords of my lifetime have really illuminated this country's overall mentality.

                      Flip-Flop, so I can't change my mind I just forge ahead on a stupid idea.

                      Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @baconhound said:

                      Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

                      The terminology is my gripe. Saying "free tuition" and "free healthcare" is not true but you would be surprised how many young people believe it is free. I have been in favor of universal healthcare. However, I hate when it is misrepresented as being something that can just be wished into being. It costs tax payer money.

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                        @baconhound said:

                        Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

                        The terminology is my gripe. Saying "free tuition" and "free healthcare" is not true but you would be surprised how many young people believe it is free. I have been in favor of universal healthcare. However, I hate when it is misrepresented as being something that can just be wished into being. It costs tax payer money.

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                        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        The terminology is my gripe. Saying "free tuition" and "free healthcare" is not true but you would be surprised how many young people believe it is free. I have been in favor of universal healthcare. However, I hate when it is misrepresented as being something that can just be wished into being. It costs tax payer money.

                        Of course it does but so does the trillions that Iraq and Afghanistan have cost us. There is a cost associated with Government as a whole and as a whole it is out of control. The problem is EACH side of the aisle, myself included, prioritize different program spending and rarely do either side agree. There was a centrist movement in the early 2000s that I was hoping would take hold but it isn't a sexy as this vulgar, bashing political environment that were currently have. It also tends to focus people on the actual and away from the perceived issues of this Country and that doesn't set up well for those in power.

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

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                            Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

                            Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                            How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                            http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

                              Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                              How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                              http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              @oldbrownsfan said:

                              Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                              How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                              http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

                              Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina blah blah blah i take all that with the same grain of salt. Ive lived long enough now to inteinsically understand most fatal flaws of humans....capitalism or socialism matters next to nothing.

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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                                How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                                http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

                                Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina blah blah blah i take all that with the same grain of salt. Ive lived long enough now to inteinsically understand most fatal flaws of humans....capitalism or socialism matters next to nothing.

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina

                                You can? Let's see 'em.

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                                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                  http://www.marxist.com/zimbabwe-failure-capitalism.htm
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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                                    How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                                    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

                                    Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina blah blah blah i take all that with the same grain of salt. Ive lived long enough now to inteinsically understand most fatal flaws of humans....capitalism or socialism matters next to nothing.

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                                    Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                                    Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina


                                    You can? Let's see 'em.
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                                      BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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                                      Karl Marx understood the evils of capitalism when he said that the proletariat will rise up against the bourgeoisie. We can't disagree that we are seeing that today with politicians running on "income inequality" and fast food workers wanting $15 an hour, and sit-ins like Occupy Wall Street and millennials wanting more pay with very little experience and irrelevant liberal arts degrees. Marx believed that capitalism creates an imbalance of classes, and to some degree he was right. But Socialism/Communism has shown, historically, they don't work either. I don't know if a mix of democratic socialism is the fix either.

                                      What capitalism does foster is growth, invention and ingenuity and the ability for an individual to succeed. Capitalism also aligns itself more so with our constitution. But how do we fix some of the actual extremes that Marx' predicts while keeping our constitution in tact and making sure that property and individual pursuit of life, liberty and happiness are not infringed, while, supporting those that are in honest need of help, financially, employment, etc., while decreasing the numbers of those that are habitual, lifetime, welfare recipients?

                                      I look forward to reading honest solutions.

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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina

                                        You can? Let's see 'em.

                                        WSS

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                                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        You can? Let's see 'em.

                                        WSS

                                        http://www.marxist.com/zimbabwe-failure-capitalism.htm

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                                          Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                                          Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina


                                          You can? Let's see 'em.
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                                          oh, boy, this should be good.... ! Go ahead, Cleve, make our hay.

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                                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                                          Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                                          You can? Let's see 'em.

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                                          oh, boy, this should be good.... ! Go ahead, Cleve, make our hay.

                                          http://en.internationalism.org/wr/315/zimbabwe

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