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    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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      @tiamat63 said:

      Going to source that comment by chance?

      No because it was a joke.

      Though he did have several family members on the campaign payroll raking in good amounts of money.

      @clevfan4life said:

      Omg not a 4 bdrm holy shit!!! Trumps get around town car is only like a 3 bdrm so this clearly beats that.

      A socialist who doesn't believe in charity and spent a year riling up blue haired hippies about how we need to redistribute the wealth in the country sold out to Clinton then bought a waterfront house for over a half mil. That's kind of ironic.

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @bbedward said:

      No because it was a joke.

      Though he did have several family members on the campaign payroll raking in good amounts of money.

      A socialist who doesn't believe in charity and spent a year riling up blue haired hippies about how we need to redistribute the wealth in the country sold out to Clinton then bought a waterfront house for over a half mil. That's kind of ironic.

      I meant a poster on that website used the line you provided. Figured you'd credit your source.

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        @bbedward said:

        No because it was a joke.

        Though he did have several family members on the campaign payroll raking in good amounts of money.

        A socialist who doesn't believe in charity and spent a year riling up blue haired hippies about how we need to redistribute the wealth in the country sold out to Clinton then bought a waterfront house for over a half mil. That's kind of ironic.

        I meant a poster on that website used the line you provided. Figured you'd credit your source.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        @tiamat63 said:

        I meant a poster on that website used the line you provided. Figured you'd credit your source.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/18/bernie-sanders-keeps-saying-his-average-donation-is-27-but-it-really-isnt/

        Bernie always sent emails, posted on Reddit asking for $27, $27, $27. Everywhere.

        600000/27 = 22222

        That's my source numb nuts

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          B BaconHound wrote on last edited by BaconHound
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          The political buzzwords of my lifetime have really illuminated this country's overall mentality.

          Flip-Flop, so I can't change my mind I just forge ahead on a stupid idea.

          Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

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            The political buzzwords of my lifetime have really illuminated this country's overall mentality.

            Flip-Flop, so I can't change my mind I just forge ahead on a stupid idea.

            Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @baconhound said:

            Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

            The terminology is my gripe. Saying "free tuition" and "free healthcare" is not true but you would be surprised how many young people believe it is free. I have been in favor of universal healthcare. However, I hate when it is misrepresented as being something that can just be wished into being. It costs tax payer money.

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              @baconhound said:

              Free-Stuff, so I pay taxes and it goes to health care for old people and building a ridiculous military machine but God forbid I want some of my tax money to provide relief for my tuition or invest in future labor.

              The terminology is my gripe. Saying "free tuition" and "free healthcare" is not true but you would be surprised how many young people believe it is free. I have been in favor of universal healthcare. However, I hate when it is misrepresented as being something that can just be wished into being. It costs tax payer money.

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              B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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              @logicisforsquares said:

              The terminology is my gripe. Saying "free tuition" and "free healthcare" is not true but you would be surprised how many young people believe it is free. I have been in favor of universal healthcare. However, I hate when it is misrepresented as being something that can just be wished into being. It costs tax payer money.

              Of course it does but so does the trillions that Iraq and Afghanistan have cost us. There is a cost associated with Government as a whole and as a whole it is out of control. The problem is EACH side of the aisle, myself included, prioritize different program spending and rarely do either side agree. There was a centrist movement in the early 2000s that I was hoping would take hold but it isn't a sexy as this vulgar, bashing political environment that were currently have. It also tends to focus people on the actual and away from the perceived issues of this Country and that doesn't set up well for those in power.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

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                  Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

                  Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                  How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                  http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Ughh, blaming the collapse of venezuela on socialism...the convenient boogeyman of the right. But dont dare bring up capitalism when countries like argentina or zimbabwe undergo hyperinflation.....than its all about mismanagement. The same argument you can easily make for venezuela

                    Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                    How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                    How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

                    Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina blah blah blah i take all that with the same grain of salt. Ive lived long enough now to inteinsically understand most fatal flaws of humans....capitalism or socialism matters next to nothing.

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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                      How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                      http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

                      Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina blah blah blah i take all that with the same grain of salt. Ive lived long enough now to inteinsically understand most fatal flaws of humans....capitalism or socialism matters next to nothing.

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina

                      You can? Let's see 'em.

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                        http://www.marxist.com/zimbabwe-failure-capitalism.htm
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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          Socialism has destroyed Venezuela. There shouldn't even be an argument there.

                          How Socialism Has Destroyed Venezuela

                          http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-socialism-has-destroyed-venezuela

                          Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina blah blah blah i take all that with the same grain of salt. Ive lived long enough now to inteinsically understand most fatal flaws of humans....capitalism or socialism matters next to nothing.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                          Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                          @clevfan4life said:

                          Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina


                          You can? Let's see 'em.
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                          oh, boy, this should be good.... ! Go ahead, Cleve, make our hay.

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                            BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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                            Karl Marx understood the evils of capitalism when he said that the proletariat will rise up against the bourgeoisie. We can't disagree that we are seeing that today with politicians running on "income inequality" and fast food workers wanting $15 an hour, and sit-ins like Occupy Wall Street and millennials wanting more pay with very little experience and irrelevant liberal arts degrees. Marx believed that capitalism creates an imbalance of classes, and to some degree he was right. But Socialism/Communism has shown, historically, they don't work either. I don't know if a mix of democratic socialism is the fix either.

                            What capitalism does foster is growth, invention and ingenuity and the ability for an individual to succeed. Capitalism also aligns itself more so with our constitution. But how do we fix some of the actual extremes that Marx' predicts while keeping our constitution in tact and making sure that property and individual pursuit of life, liberty and happiness are not infringed, while, supporting those that are in honest need of help, financially, employment, etc., while decreasing the numbers of those that are habitual, lifetime, welfare recipients?

                            I look forward to reading honest solutions.

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina

                              You can? Let's see 'em.

                              WSS

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              @westside-steve said:

                              You can? Let's see 'em.

                              WSS

                              http://www.marxist.com/zimbabwe-failure-capitalism.htm

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                                Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                                Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Yes yes and i can find numerous stating how capitalism destroyed zimbabwe and argentina


                                You can? Let's see 'em.
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                                oh, boy, this should be good.... ! Go ahead, Cleve, make our hay.

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                                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                                Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                                You can? Let's see 'em.

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                                oh, boy, this should be good.... ! Go ahead, Cleve, make our hay.

                                http://en.internationalism.org/wr/315/zimbabwe

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                                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  Experience sometimes is the best teacher. After living through the horrible economy of Jimmy Carter and seeing Reagan after him have an economic boom that lasted for many years after he left office the answer is really simple. Get government off the backs of the people, lower taxes and turn the American people loose. It works amazingly well.

                                  A booming economy is the cure for all the ills and not government micromanagement. With a booming economy you have recruiters in college wooing graduates instead of grads coming out of college with no job prospects. With a booming economy employers treat employees better and pay them better. They see those employees and new employees as valuable assets instead of today as employers are looking at more at what it will cost them to hire new employees.

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    Posted Yesterday, 07:00 PM

                                    Clevfan4life, on 11 Aug 2016 - 6:51 PM, said:snapback.png

                                    You can? Let's see 'em.

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                                    oh, boy, this should be good.... ! Go ahead, Cleve, make our hay.

                                    http://en.internationalism.org/wr/315/zimbabwe

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                                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    http://en.internationalism.org/wr/315/zimbabwe

                                    I would say that isn't so much the economic system as it is that Zimbabwe is ruled by a strong man piece of shit. Mugabe regularly stole private property to "give it back to the people". That is why the farms and mines went into the shitter.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      Reagan blew upour currency. It was a ride that could never last forever. Im tired of people giving him credit for doing things with basically blank checks handed to him. We're still paying formtje excesses of the 80's and none of u seemto get it. You whine about govt spending constantly though

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                                        Reagan blew upour currency. It was a ride that could never last forever. Im tired of people giving him credit for doing things with basically blank checks handed to him. We're still paying formtje excesses of the 80's and none of u seemto get it. You whine about govt spending constantly though

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        Reagan blew upour currency. It was a ride that could never last forever. Im tired of people giving him credit for doing things with basically blank checks handed to him. We're still paying formtje excesses of the 80's and none of u seemto get it. You whine about govt spending constantly though

                                        Did you read about Reagan Cleve or did you live through it? Did you live through the economic mess of the Carter years and see and experience what happened under Reagan? And don't forget Reagan was working with a democratic congress and he was only able to get tax cuts through by not cutting spending.

                                        We are almost 20 trillion in debt today with half of that coming from Obama's term alone. What do we have to show for all of Obama's spending? A powerful military..nope...a booming economy...nope... job creation...nope...our infrastructure rebuilt...nope

                                        As for Zimbabwe Cleve without even googling anything I can tell you Mugabe over there forced out thousands of prosperous white farmers from their farms solely because they were white and gave that land many times to his cronies who knew nothing about farming and the land went to waste....add to that the incompetence and corruption of Mugabe and you have the mess he created over there

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                                          Reagan blew upour currency. It was a ride that could never last forever. Im tired of people giving him credit for doing things with basically blank checks handed to him. We're still paying formtje excesses of the 80's and none of u seemto get it. You whine about govt spending constantly though

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          Reagan blew upour currency. It was a ride that could never last forever. Im tired of people giving him credit for doing things with basically blank checks handed to him. We're still paying formtje excesses of the 80's and none of u seemto get it. You whine about govt spending constantly though

                                          "None of u"....hey now.

                                          I don't get weak in the knees and swoon every time I hear Reagan's name. I know full well that the borrowing has been going on for awhile.

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