Kruger Cut By Browns in roster trimdown
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If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..
Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..
If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..
Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..
If we don't then Horton needs to start looking. If we do then we need to bring in Garrett in the draft.
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Tell me this is the same pumped up - cliche driven - happy go lucky coach you saw just a couple weeks ago....
Tell me this is the same pumped up - cliche driven - happy go lucky coach you saw just a couple weeks ago....
Loved this bit:
On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:
“We are working on that."
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So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.
Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...
And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......
Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...
Maybe they really like Joe Schobert, Cam Johnson and Jason Neal.
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)
They drafted Schobert, picked up Johnson as a FA.
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...
Well, if you know me, I put less emphasis on those positions labels than most. I expect him to be talented and versatile enough to handle either spot.
And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....
I think the page that they are on is: Get rid of the dead weight......meaning Mingo and Kruger. And they are on the same page of: let the young guys play.....we can get as much production out of them as we did out of the guys we let go.....even if it doesn't seem to be a perfect fit. The young guys can grow into the job.
Now, I may not wholly agree with this philosophy....but that is the plan....and they do seem to me to be on the same page with that plan....even if it doesn't look right to you.
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......
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If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..
Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..
If we don't then Horton needs to start looking. If we do then we need to bring in Garrett in the draft.
If we don't then Horton needs to start looking. If we do then we need to bring in Garrett in the draft.
There will be a lot of cuts made after this next week. There could be an OLB out there that the Browns may want to snag.
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Hopefully we do run a base 4-3. I mean look at what our DE rotation would be....orchard, ogbah, nassib. Im k with that.
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Hopefully we do run a base 4-3. I mean look at what our DE rotation would be....orchard, ogbah, nassib. Im k with that.
Hopefully we do run a base 4-3. I mean look at what our DE rotation would be....orchard, ogbah, nassib. Im k with that.
We can only hope.
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So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.
Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...
And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......
Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...
And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......
I would just point you to Tour's post on another thread and say Hue'll figure it out.
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Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now.... CUBAN CIGARS!! They lite like fireworks
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him. KRUGER>>CAN"T BE THAT HARD
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2... NEW DEPTH CHART OUT..
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay) NOT A LB DRAFT MUD, DL YES
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB... 3-4 GOOD. WILL NEVER GET TO QB FROM DE. JUST THE WORD CONVERTS TO::: SUCKS.....
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone....... NOW THAT'S THE MUD WE KNOW
Caps^^We can still beat the Da Bears.. (Just don't have to watch 2 Hug anymore #99)
We can still beat the Da Bears.. (Just don't have to watch 2 Hug anymore #99)
It'll be our ones VS da Bears 2's and 3's.....better beat em....but, I wouldnt hold my breath on that.....
And yet we have not cut Ray Horton.
WSS
Yep....thats a cut Id like to see,,,
Loved this bit:
On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:
“We are working on that."
Pathetic.....truly.....
Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...
Maybe they really like Joe Schobert, Cam Johnson and Jason Neal.
Maybe they do. Not sure what they see, but we will soon find out.
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)
They drafted Schobert, picked up Johnson as a FA.
I meant "good" linebackers. Not a 4th round hopeful and retread UDFA.
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...
Well, if you know me, I put less emphasis on those positions labels than most. I expect him to be talented and versatile enough to handle either spot.
Good. Usually rookies and coaches state that the first year is a severe learning curve for rookies and the terminology, speed, etc are tough for them to adapt too. Adding a new position, then asking them to learn 2 positions seems like a lot, when they normally admit just ONE position is tough. So, lets hope Ogbah is amazing...but so far, fairly hum drum.
And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....
I think the page that they are on is: Get rid of the dead weight......meaning Mingo and Kruger. And they are on the same page of: let the young guys play.....we can get as much production out of them as we did out of the guys we let go.....even if it doesn't seem to be a perfect fit. The young guys can grow into the job.
Now, I may not wholly agree with this philosophy....but that is the plan....and they do seem to me to be on the same page with that plan....even if it doesn't look right to you.
I get what the plan is....I get it!....people keep explaining that to me....i freaking get it....
My point is I dont like the plan....NOW, lets see if you all can get that???
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......
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Tell me this is the same pumped up - cliche driven - happy go lucky coach you saw just a couple weeks ago....
Loved this bit:
On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:
“We are working on that."
Loved this bit:
On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:
“We are working on that."
Were gonna need a bigger boat. Kinda in Z's boat on this one.. think Hue thought he could boot Krug in the ass, till Hue got his own look in Camp. Than TB tape killed it..#NOWweworkingonit
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Loved this bit:
On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:
“We are working on that."
Were gonna need a bigger boat. Kinda in Z's boat on this one.. think Hue thought he could boot Krug in the ass, till Hue got his own look in Camp. Than TB tape killed it..#NOWweworkingonit
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We can still beat the Da Bears.. (Just don't have to watch 2 Hug anymore #99)
It'll be our ones VS da Bears 2's and 3's.....better beat em....but, I wouldnt hold my breath on that.....
And yet we have not cut Ray Horton.
WSS
Yep....thats a cut Id like to see,,,
Loved this bit:
On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:
“We are working on that."
Pathetic.....truly.....
Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....
Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.
Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...
Maybe they really like Joe Schobert, Cam Johnson and Jason Neal.
Maybe they do. Not sure what they see, but we will soon find out.
Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)
They drafted Schobert, picked up Johnson as a FA.
I meant "good" linebackers. Not a 4th round hopeful and retread UDFA.
Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...
Well, if you know me, I put less emphasis on those positions labels than most. I expect him to be talented and versatile enough to handle either spot.
Good. Usually rookies and coaches state that the first year is a severe learning curve for rookies and the terminology, speed, etc are tough for them to adapt too. Adding a new position, then asking them to learn 2 positions seems like a lot, when they normally admit just ONE position is tough. So, lets hope Ogbah is amazing...but so far, fairly hum drum.
And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....
I think the page that they are on is: Get rid of the dead weight......meaning Mingo and Kruger. And they are on the same page of: let the young guys play.....we can get as much production out of them as we did out of the guys we let go.....even if it doesn't seem to be a perfect fit. The young guys can grow into the job.
Now, I may not wholly agree with this philosophy....but that is the plan....and they do seem to me to be on the same page with that plan....even if it doesn't look right to you.
I get what the plan is....I get it!....people keep explaining that to me....i freaking get it....
My point is I dont like the plan....NOW, lets see if you all can get that???
But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......
My point is I don't like the plan
You're referring to the plan to completely scrap and rebuild the team, right? Why don't you like it? We've tried it the other way a half dozen times now. It doesn't work. As you've pointed out ad nauseum, we don't have the talent to "win now," so why waste your time trying? Much smarter to play the long game.
Now if you're just referring to the "plan" (or non-plan) of moving Ogbah back and forth a million times, then that's fair.
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Here's my theory on the events that transpired here and why Hue was so disappointed in yesterday's PC:
Sashi tells Hue at the beginning of preseason that they will be evaluating Krueger and there's a chance of cutting him.
Hue says please don't, my defense sucks and he's a starter.
Sashi says I get that but you're just going to have to endure a rough season. Krueger is taking us nowhere. If we decide to cut him, it will be merited.
Hue says "I'm upset by this and hope you reconsider, but you're the boss."
Sashi says damn right.
Hue is hopeful Sashi will reconsider.
Sashi cuts Krueger.
Hue is upset yesterday. Gives press conference.
Now here's the kicker.....
Hue GETS OVER IT
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Or, Hue's disappointment/frustration was because he wanted Kruger to be a part of the team, but realized Kruger had to go due to a diminished skillset.. It is possible that he agreed with the decision to cut Kruger.
Hue's allowed to be pissed at the situation and not directed towards a person..
We'll never know if Hue at some point stood up for kruger behind the scenes, and so Hue wanted to be right with his evaluation. And so even though he recognized Kruger had to be cut, he was still pissed just in general that he was wrong -- because you don't get anywhere in the NFL without a degree of ego.
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My point is I don't like the plan
You're referring to the plan to completely scrap and rebuild the team, right? Why don't you like it? We've tried it the other way a half dozen times now. It doesn't work. As you've pointed out ad nauseum, we don't have the talent to "win now," so why waste your time trying? Much smarter to play the long game.
Now if you're just referring to the "plan" (or non-plan) of moving Ogbah back and forth a million times, then that's fair.
Could be Hue sees Krug's dismissal, the dismissal of a "starter", as too open of an admission of tanking the season. Hue is the one that has to face the final 53.
Now if you're just referring to the "plan" (or non-plan) of moving Ogbah back and forth a million times, then that's fair.
Two things:
- only 999,999 to go to reach a million; and
- given the way Krugs was used, the move can be as simple as going from a 3-pt to a 2-pt. We probably dropped our RDE as many times as we did Krugs the past three years.
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Here's my theory on the events that transpired here and why Hue was so disappointed in yesterday's PC:
Sashi tells Hue at the beginning of preseason that they will be evaluating Krueger and there's a chance of cutting him.
Hue says please don't, my defense sucks and he's a starter.
Sashi says I get that but you're just going to have to endure a rough season. Krueger is taking us nowhere. If we decide to cut him, it will be merited.
Hue says "I'm upset by this and hope you reconsider, but you're the boss."
Sashi says damn right.
Hue is hopeful Sashi will reconsider.
Sashi cuts Krueger.
Hue is upset yesterday. Gives press conference.
Now here's the kicker.....
Hue GETS OVER IT
Here's my theory on the events that transpired here and why Hue was so disappointed in yesterday's PC:
Sashi tells Hue at the beginning of preseason that they will be evaluating Krueger and there's a chance of cutting him.
Hue says please don't, my defense sucks and he's a starter.
Sashi says I get that but you're just going to have to endure a rough season. Krueger is taking us nowhere. If we decide to cut him, it will be merited.
Hue says "I'm upset by this and hope you reconsider, but you're the boss."
Sashi says damn right.
Hue is hopeful Sashi will reconsider.
Sashi cuts Krueger.
Hue is upset yesterday. Gives press conference.
Now here's the kicker.....
Hue GETS OVER IT
OR
Hue met with the defensive coaches and they decided he wasn't going to make the team, we were better off going with the young guns.
We drafted three pass rushers, folks.
Zombo
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Well didn't take him long to land in N.O.
Well didn't take him long to land in N.O.
He can dance in place in a warmer environment.
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My point is I dont like the plan....NOW, lets see if you all can get that???
Since they never ask our opinion on these matters, our like or dislike of their plan is irrelevent, now isn't it? I only hope that the plan you don't like....or I don't like....actually works. Then I will learn to love it.
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Here's my theory on the events that transpired here and why Hue was so disappointed in yesterday's PC:
Sashi tells Hue at the beginning of preseason that they will be evaluating Krueger and there's a chance of cutting him.
Hue says please don't, my defense sucks and he's a starter.
Sashi says I get that but you're just going to have to endure a rough season. Krueger is taking us nowhere. If we decide to cut him, it will be merited.
Hue says "I'm upset by this and hope you reconsider, but you're the boss."
Sashi says damn right.
Hue is hopeful Sashi will reconsider.
Sashi cuts Krueger.
Hue is upset yesterday. Gives press conference.
Now here's the kicker.....
Hue GETS OVER IT
OR
Hue met with the defensive coaches and they decided he wasn't going to make the team, we were better off going with the young guns.
We drafted three pass rushers, folks.
Zombo
Zombo said:
OR
Hue met with the defensive coaches and they decided he wasn't going to make the team, we were better off going with the young guns.
We drafted three pass rushers, folks.
Zombo
That does nothing to explain Hue's disappointment in that presser.
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Kruger's dismissal has nothing to do with any kind of plan.
He's simply not a productive player in 2016.
The fact that he signed with the Aints doesn't validate him at all.. he will be on the other side from a Pro Bowl end, and will still get dominated by a backup RT..
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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