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  • LogicIsForSquares LogicIsForSquaresL Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/27/veterans-legislation-bernie-sanders-senate/5859217/

    Funny how politicians get really thrifty when it comes to veterans.

    This was a bipartisan shit show.

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Same old story. We always get fucked.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        Should have voted for bernie then

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          That's the Dems for ya.

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            That's the Dems for ya.

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            "One said:

            That's the Dems for ya.

            The republicans shot it down

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              for good reason. why throw a bunch of money

              at a clusterfook system?

              that's what dems do.

              it's a waste of time, too.

              "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied."

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                for good reason. why throw a bunch of money

                at a clusterfook system?

                that's what dems do.

                it's a waste of time, too.

                "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied."

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                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                @calfoxwc said:

                for good reason. why throw a bunch of money

                at a clusterfook system?

                that's what dems do.

                it's a waste of time, too.

                "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied."

                All individual parts were agreed upon by congress but when it came time to pass it they decided it wasn't cost effective. Convenient.

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                  D Dste Ace wrote on last edited by
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                  Gonna go out on a limb and guess that many of the same politicians

                  that voted against the bill are the same ones who are losing their shit

                  over Colin Kaepernick.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    it isn't cost-effective when it doesn't solve the problems that vets have now.

                    Fix the other problems, then pass this bill.'

                    That's what the dems do - exeactly like obamaocare - they pass a bill,

                    they brag and brag brag and bragbrag and bragbrag and brag brag and bragbrag and brag

                    about it.....

                    but it doesn't do what it's supposed to do, it doesn't solve the problems, and the problems get worse.

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                      for good reason. why throw a bunch of money

                      at a clusterfook system?

                      that's what dems do.

                      it's a waste of time, too.

                      "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied."

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      for good reason. why throw a bunch of money

                      at a clusterfook system?

                      "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied."

                      To un-clusterfook it?

                      Important to define the problems... entering the system was, and still is an issue, in no small part due to incompatible DOD and DVA computer systems chronicled in a 60 Minutes segment IIRC...

                      Once in "the system" vets' satisfaction ratings are high for both in and out-patient care. One of the sources of dissatisfaction was proximity to care and that was addressed by redefining and clarifying the boundary for requiring VA use vs. private providers.

                      Coburn was one of the more earnest conservatives in recent memory... wait.... Coburn? He resigned at the end of 2015...

                      Ah... OP's article is from 2014...

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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        for good reason. why throw a bunch of money

                        at a clusterfook system?

                        "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied."

                        To un-clusterfook it?

                        Important to define the problems... entering the system was, and still is an issue, in no small part due to incompatible DOD and DVA computer systems chronicled in a 60 Minutes segment IIRC...

                        Once in "the system" vets' satisfaction ratings are high for both in and out-patient care. One of the sources of dissatisfaction was proximity to care and that was addressed by redefining and clarifying the boundary for requiring VA use vs. private providers.

                        Coburn was one of the more earnest conservatives in recent memory... wait.... Coburn? He resigned at the end of 2015...

                        Ah... OP's article is from 2014...

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        To un-clusterfook it?

                        Important to define the problems... entering the system was, and still is an issue, in no small part due to incompatible DOD and DVA computer systems chronicled in a 60 Minutes segment IIRC...

                        Once in "the system" vets' satisfaction ratings are high for both in and out-patient care. One of the sources of dissatisfaction was proximity to care and that was addressed by redefining and clarifying the boundary for requiring VA use vs. private providers.

                        Coburn was one of the more earnest conservatives in recent memory... wait.... Coburn? He resigned at the end of 2015...

                        Ah... OP's article is from 2014...

                        That is a mistake on my part. I just saw that. Someone sent it to me as if it was something new.

                        Burn the thread down. Nothing to see here folks.

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