Andy Lee Traded to Panthers
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@ghoolie said:
When the punter is your headline, your team is in the shitter.
To be fair he was a decent punter. And at least our media isn't talking about "Johnny Football" anymore.
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I guarantee Lee's trade will always be mentioned by ESPN as being "solely because" he didn't lay out for the opportunity to bounce off some dude with a full head of steam. This is analogous to Kruger always being described as having "covered a lot" last season.
Never mind that this trade is the absolute best for a punter that we could have ever hoped for.
If we need to trade up for something, this will be part of the ammunition.
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Yeah, he was a very good punter, but a fourth round pick is absolutely insane. We are stockpiling picks like crazy, and now we just need to use them correctly. The good news is, if RG III doesn't work out, we'll have a ton of ammunition needed to move up to grab one of the top prospects. If Deshawn Watson has the type of year many predict, I seriously doubt we'll be able to get him ONLY because so many different things would have to work out. For instance, a team that DOESN'T need a QB would have to own the first overall pick, AND we'd have to be willing to pay the exorbitant asking price. This regime appears more intent on gathering picks than trading them, but we'll see. I'd rather focus on this year and hope to the heavens that Robert is the guy we've been hoping for.
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I have no fear that we won't get the first pick.
You'll know the first pick is in sight when Tour stops doing his OL analysis because he doesn't want to lose faith in humanity.
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I have no fear that we won't get the first pick.
You'll know the first pick is in sight when Tour stops doing his OL analysis because he doesn't want to lose faith in humanity.
I have no fear that we won't get the first pick.
You'll know the first pick is in sight when Tour stops doing his OL analysis because he doesn't want to lose faith in humanity.
lol... I have to admit that my pain threshold is a factor...
On Lee... I was wondering if he was in a contract year, but he's not. He was, however, going to get much more expensive the next two seasons. Looks out of line with our current payroll and by the time we might "turn the corner" he be hitting FA.
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Guys like Mud, Mik, Tour, and myself weren't blaming Pettine & Co last year (we were in the minority).So is it the coaching or the talent?
WSS
Stevie Wonder could see that the team was nearly void of talent...and it's even going to be worse this year.
Guys like Mud, Mik, Tour, and myself weren't blaming Pettine & Co last year (we were in the minority).
Stevie Wonder could see that the team was nearly void of talent...and it's even going to be worse this year.
I don't think those two things were mutually exclusive events though, at least IMO. I could see and knew well the team was devoid of talent but also believe Pettine was a weiner who lost control of the team. No point in arguing what's already done though.
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On another note... watching Pats-Panthers replay and I saw our new punter make a tackle...
... of course it was after outkicking his coverage...
... and a whiff on his first attempt...
... but 2nd attempt = "tenacity"...
First punt was a gorgeous, high 61-yarder...
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Guys like Mud, Mik, Tour, and myself weren't blaming Pettine & Co last year (we were in the minority).So is it the coaching or the talent?
WSS
Stevie Wonder could see that the team was nearly void of talent...and it's even going to be worse this year.
Guys like Mud, Mik, Tour, and myself weren't blaming Pettine & Co last year (we were in the minority).
Stevie Wonder could see that the team was nearly void of talent...and it's even going to be worse this year.
This team hasn't underachieved since Butch Davis.
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Against the Bears one of the Browns punters had a 75 yard punt from deep in the end zone. The next punt was shanked for 19 yards. Who was punting?
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Coons was also cut
MHO that was a questionable cut. Our new guy missed an easy FG game 4. A lot of Coons misses last year were due to blocks, unless the coaches thought he in general had a low trajectory on his kicks. Ah, to have old reliable Phil Dawson back. Of course, with our youth movement, he wouldn't fit the equation. FWIW, Phil passed Lou Groza the end of last year on the career points list.
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I think it may have been more of a favor to Lee than a punishment. He is sent, as you say to where his family lives....and to a team that was just in the Super Bowl.
How is that a punishment for Lee?
Agents talk Gip. This was all over Brns & Carolina not offering up enough to Denver for P Brittion Colquitt..Than the Monte Hall let's make a deal begins..
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Coons was also cut
MHO that was a questionable cut. Our new guy missed an easy FG game 4. A lot of Coons misses last year were due to blocks, unless the coaches thought he in general had a low trajectory on his kicks. Ah, to have old reliable Phil Dawson back. Of course, with our youth movement, he wouldn't fit the equation. FWIW, Phil passed Lou Groza the end of last year on the career points list.
MHO that was a questionable cut. Our new guy missed an easy FG game 4. A lot of Coons misses last year were due to blocks, unless the coaches thought he in general had a low trajectory on his kicks. Ah, to have old reliable Phil Dawson back. Of course, with our youth movement, he wouldn't fit the equation. FWIW, Phil passed Lou Groza the end of last year on the career points list.
Murray had 5 FGs of over 50 yards his one year with the Bucs, while Coons had everything over 46 yards blocked last year. I think Murray won because he has the longer leg and gets the ball up quicker. He was 20-24 with the Bucks, so he should be OK.
Glad I didn't buy the COON DAWG jersey.
Zombo
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MHO that was a questionable cut. Our new guy missed an easy FG game 4. A lot of Coons misses last year were due to blocks, unless the coaches thought he in general had a low trajectory on his kicks. Ah, to have old reliable Phil Dawson back. Of course, with our youth movement, he wouldn't fit the equation. FWIW, Phil passed Lou Groza the end of last year on the career points list.
Murray had 5 FGs of over 50 yards his one year with the Bucs, while Coons had everything over 46 yards blocked last year. I think Murray won because he has the longer leg and gets the ball up quicker. He was 20-24 with the Bucks, so he should be OK.
Glad I didn't buy the COON DAWG jersey.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Murray had 5 FGs of over 50 yards his one year with the Bucs, while Coons had everything over 46 yards blocked last year. I think Murray won because he has the longer leg and gets the ball up quicker. He was 20-24 with the Bucks, so he should be OK.
Glad I didn't buy the COON DAWG jersey.
Zombo
I'm still celebrating that we sent Candy to Carolina for a 4th round pick and upgraded that sissy as easily as the Harvard Trust made it.
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Yeah Lee seemed angry, he definitely botched the f$%^ out of that punt.
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mile high. 76 yarder out of the bowels of their own end zone.
yeah, i could do that.
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