***Official Browns @ Eagles Game Day Thread***
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The general temperature of the fans gets factored into decisions, especially around here. You want to hide behind this "the FO hasn't asked my opinion" crap like that's the only way you can affect their decision making.
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Ups and Downs. Plenty of downs. Let's see:
Rough first quarter. No pressure on the rookie QB, and pass D non existent. Down
Good response and adjustments in the second quarter from the D. Up
A couple of big plays on O in that second quarter. Up.
Still went in at the half down 13-7. Down.
Came out quite strong after the half with a good drive, putting points on the board, then got the stop immediately and got the ball back. We looked like a mediocre football team... Biggest Up.
Cam Erving happened. Down.
Our D played worse and worse afterwards. Down
Our O couldn't get anything going. Down
We were stuck with poor field position all day, with our O going 3 and out, or 5 and out, and our D not doing the same to them. Down
Our run game actually wasn't horrible - 15 rushes from Duke and Crow for 84 yards, (5.6 ypc), and RG3 picked up good yards on the ground. Up
Our passing game was horrible. Two big plays to Pryor and Coleman, combined for 102 yards. Outside of that, RG3 was 10-24, for 88 yards. Biggest down
Carl Nassib and Ogbah showed up, look like they will be contributors. Up
Our DL didn't look much, and we let them get off some big runs, particularly Barner. Down
Our pass D was horrible. Literally abysmal. We will get absolutely shredded, and that's *if* Haden can stay healthy. If not, look out for opposition offenses not even having to take advantage of our leaky run D. Down.
No stupid penalties - 12 men on the field, illegal formation etc. Well, one, Pryor lining up 6 inches too far forward - I'll let him off that if he learns from it. Up
Tackling. Or rather, lack of. A lot of times we were in position to make a tackle (up!) but didn't wrap up. It looks like we have about 4 players who can tackle properly and they're DBs and ILBs. Down
It's going to be a long season, folks. Our pass D is starting off bad, outside of about 20 minutes (second quarter and early third). Our pas O is worse at the moment. Our run game is ok, actually, but that won't last if we can't get something going through the air.
I *hope* that by about game 6 or 7, we start to actually look like a team that has what it takes to play in this league, otherwise we'll see a lot of trading back in next year's draft and picking up a lot more players.
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I did see a Sumo wrestler on our D line. That didn't work too well though. Maybe we should try a few Amish guys on the team now. They're about as tough a group as you can get. I live in NE Ohio and the pitchforks and torches are getting broke out early. I wonder what the anal guys are thinking now? ohh, I know....lets raise ticket prices. Throw da bums out now and hire some clown from the woods. He couldn't do much worse
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Shelton was the 5th highest graded Brown defender per PFF. Kirksey and Davis were 1 and 2..
I'm more interested in watching the opposition at this point. I took off work tomorrow, watching all the throws from Robert right now.
Vintage Jim Schwartz. He might be one of the very best in the league at creating pressure with four man fronts and getting creative with as little blitzing as possible.
He was very ready for a lot of the tells on our formations, personnel groupings and patterns. To the point where defenders early on are just watching RG3's eyes and falling off assignments very early.
I like coach Horton, I respect his designs. Schwartz was the guy I wanted though and it sucks seeing Philly's defense could actually take a step forward in year 1.
I'm more interested in watching the opposition at this point. I took off work tomorrow, watching all the throws from Robert right now.
Vintage Jim Schwartz. He might be one of the very best in the league at creating pressure with four man fronts and getting creative with as little blitzing as possible.
He was very ready for a lot of the tells on our formations, personnel groupings and patterns. To the point where defenders early on are just watching RG3's eyes and falling off assignments very early.
I like coach Horton, I respect his designs. Schwartz was the guy I wanted though and it sucks seeing Philly's defense could actually take a step forward in year 1.
hell, i liked schwartz as a HC candidate.
i say pull mangini out of retirement, have pettine run the D and hue the offense, no wait.
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Honestly.. STFU. Take a year off. Watch the rewind. Haden made plays.Our OL pass protection did not give up a sack till 3rd Quarter adjustments not matched by us. Than with time & score, both sides of the ball up front were gassed..Some hope for better around here but, you have not 1 post of a real fan..Get off Our Lawn!!
poor little gumby....still the iq of a vegetable...
poor little gumby....still the iq of a vegetable...
poor little gumhead...he thought that fake punt was a great call...heheheheee...fucking moron thinks our oline is good...what a football moron .....
Yoa, "I only Bitch52". My positive post will be here weekly. Don't ask someones opinion, than make it that i said anything about "great or good"..You are the pricks on this board that just got my attention All 17 Weeks..Enjoy the Ride..I will..
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poor little gumby....still the iq of a vegetable...
poor little gumhead...he thought that fake punt was a great call...heheheheee...fucking moron thinks our oline is good...what a football moron .....
Yoa, "I only Bitch52". My positive post will be here weekly. Don't ask someones opinion, than make it that i said anything about "great or good"..You are the pricks on this board that just got my attention All 17 Weeks..Enjoy the Ride..I will..
I admire your optimism Gumby. You can at least escape the negativity. Here the fans are getting squirrely...with cause. I want to see them win too. Go in the hardware store, circle k or any store or shop and it's pitchfork and torch burning time. At least the weather is good, the Tribe is good, the Cavs should be. You need to be about 30 to remember the Browns as anything other than the NFL jv squad. Dee is running around town having sex in the back seat of the limo while Jimmy drives...oh the fun! at least in NC they like to talk civil war battles, but that don't happen here.Yoa, "I only Bitch52". My positive post will be here weekly. Don't ask someones opinion, than make it that i said anything about "great or good"..You are the pricks on this board that just got my attention All 17 Weeks..Enjoy the Ride..I will..
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circle k? haven't seen one of those since i left po-dunk az.
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circle k? haven't seen one of those since i left po-dunk az.
I think you have that confused with circle-j mik.
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circle k? haven't seen one of those since i left po-dunk az.
Welcome to podunk oh mik. There are 2 of em within 3 miles of me. At one time they were Lawson stores.....back in the days of real Cleveland Browns football and redcap beer. Its so bad now that even the stool fans say good luck and mean it when I wear Browns gear. That is the bottom of the barrel for me
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I think you have that confused with circle-j mik.
Something unique to Texas?
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While getting a rare Monday off from work, I was listening to Cleveland sports radio this morning.
It was at 7:15 the station received its first "fire Hue" caller.
I don't care who the HC is, but damn we can't keep firing coaches every year or two.
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let's say the Browns had drafted Wentz. Do you honestly think he would have looked that good on the Browns behind a shitty O-line and with our receiver corps? Part of the reason Wentz looked so good is because our secondary is shit and he wasn't constantly on the run from our guys bringing pressure. Nassib, Ogbah and Kirksey had some moments but it takes more than 1 or 2 good plays to win.
I get what the new FO is trying to do but I'm getting very impatient, getting very sick of building for the future instead of building for now. The Browns are more than just 1 QB away. The Browns need good offensive and defensive linemen, a good secondary (Tramon Williams can't keep up with anyone anymore and Haden is not getting any younger), and some linebackers that can actually pressure a QB. Offense seems a bit further along (I know I know, not one first down in the 1st quarter but hear me out), Crowell was finding gaps and I saw him make a few good blocks that bought RG3 some time, and I like the long passes to Coleman and Pryor. I think the playmakers are there, they just need to get the timing between QB and receivers worked out. Once RG3 gets injured and McCown takes over I think there will be lots of improvement on that side of the ball, at least McCown could get first downs.
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my point is these rebuilds shouldn't take this long. i mean 1999? there has to be some meat on the bone from other regimes where the new regime just doesn't throw it all out and then start from scratch. amazing how the good teams might be thin one year at a position, draft or acquire and then they are back on top. yet the browns franchise just can't figure it out?
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I'm getting very impatient, getting very sick of building for the future instead of building for now.
OK, fine, I get that...
The Browns are more than just 1 QB away. The Browns need good offensive and defensive linemen, a good secondary (Tramon Williams can't keep up with anyone anymore and Haden is not getting any younger), and some linebackers that can actually pressure a QB.
...which means it's going to take a couple of years to turn it around. There's no real difference between 'building for the future' and 'building for now' apart from maybe one or two older players who are currently slightly better taking reps away from younger players who will probably be better at the end of the season. See Campbell/Whitner, Schobert/Kruger etc.
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circle k? haven't seen one of those since i left po-dunk az.
Welcome to podunk oh mik. There are 2 of em within 3 miles of me. At one time they were Lawson stores.....back in the days of real Cleveland Browns football and redcap beer. Its so bad now that even the stool fans say good luck and mean it when I wear Browns gear. That is the bottom of the barrel for me
Welcome to podunk oh mik. There are 2 of em within 3 miles of me. At one time they were Lawson stores.....back in the days of real Cleveland Browns football and redcap beer. Its so bad now that even the stool fans say good luck and mean it when I wear Browns gear. That is the bottom of the barrel for me
They have a circle K at the Marathon about 3 miles from here. They have Lawsons and Circle K in Japan also, along with 7/11.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Those are bad examples.. Whitner and Kruger would not earn time on a team that had any talent behind them.
The only reason Kruger has a job right now is because the Saints have found ways to be worse than the Browns at defense. Not coincidentally, they were led by RobRyan for the last 3 years.
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Welcome to podunk oh mik. There are 2 of em within 3 miles of me. At one time they were Lawson stores.....back in the days of real Cleveland Browns football and redcap beer. Its so bad now that even the stool fans say good luck and mean it when I wear Browns gear. That is the bottom of the barrel for me
They have a circle K at the Marathon about 3 miles from here. They have Lawsons and Circle K in Japan also, along with 7/11.
They have a circle K at the Marathon about 3 miles from here. They have Lawsons and Circle K in Japan also, along with 7/11.
Kinda funny but there hasn't been a 7/11 around here in years. Circle Ks are about it now for stand alone stores...with or without gas pumps. All the other convenience type shops are gas stations too.
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They have a circle K at the Marathon about 3 miles from here. They have Lawsons and Circle K in Japan also, along with 7/11.
Kinda funny but there hasn't been a 7/11 around here in years. Circle Ks are about it now for stand alone stores...with or without gas pumps. All the other convenience type shops are gas stations too.
Kinda funny but there hasn't been a 7/11 around here in years. Circle Ks are about it now for stand alone stores...with or without gas pumps. All the other convenience type shops are gas stations too.
Go down south, there is one about every mile or so. Also CA has a shit load. There are a few around here.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
They have a circle K at the Marathon about 3 miles from here. They have Lawsons and Circle K in Japan also, along with 7/11.
Kinda funny but there hasn't been a 7/11 around here in years. Circle Ks are about it now for stand alone stores...with or without gas pumps. All the other convenience type shops are gas stations too.
Kinda funny but there hasn't been a 7/11 around here in years. Circle Ks are about it now for stand alone stores...with or without gas pumps. All the other convenience type shops are gas stations too.
Theres one on 185th st. in Cleveland ,just north of Muldoons..
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Kinda funny but there hasn't been a 7/11 around here in years. Circle Ks are about it now for stand alone stores...with or without gas pumps. All the other convenience type shops are gas stations too.
Go down south, there is one about every mile or so. Also CA has a shit load. There are a few around here.
We have Circle K over here. They bought out the local Wareco. They're open 24/7 and while I'm feeling chatty let me tell you something it's been bugging me.Go down south, there is one about every mile or so. Also CA has a shit load. There are a few around here.
I'm in manager training right now for six weeks I'm in week four starting this afternoon. I was opening for three weeks now I close for three weeks. I have to work 10 and a half hrs a day. Minimum of 50 hrs a week I get Sundays and Tuesdays off...anyway..
Driving from my small town into the city is a 45 minute trip. When I open the store I have to be there at 4:30 am so I get up at 3 am. Ok I stop at the Circle K and they guy working is smoking outside the gas station. I do my meds before I leave for work and need carbs to maintain my blood sugar level. So...I go into the store I'm waiting at the counter, he finally comes in talking on his cell phone and gives me the "hold on a sec finger"
I pay for my things and prepay my gas and told him I'll never be back and he's a lazy MFer.
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