***Official Browns @ Eagles Game Day Thread***
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Josh at QB actually gives guys like Coleman a chance to develop ... he's a veteran with a big arm which puts the entire playbook in play.
Precisely....which is why I advocate for a veteran backup. Development is the key to this team. Give the other young guys a chance.
If we had a much more veteran, capable team around Kessler I would be in favor of him taking over perhaps in the event of an injury to McC. But we don't have that kind of team. That would be the blind leading the blind.
Let us have a guide dog in a veteran QB so that all our little eggs can hatch instead of being stolen by the fox of insecurity.
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Josh at QB actually gives guys like Coleman a chance to develop ... he's a veteran with a big arm which puts the entire playbook in play.
Precisely....which is why I advocate for a veteran backup. Development is the key to this team. Give the other young guys a chance.
If we had a much more veteran, capable team around Kessler I would be in favor of him taking over perhaps in the event of an injury to McC. But we don't have that kind of team. That would be the blind leading the blind.
Let us have a guide dog in a veteran QB so that all our little eggs can hatch instead of being stolen by the fox of insecurity.
Josh at QB actually gives guys like Coleman a chance to develop ... he's a veteran with a big arm which puts the entire playbook in play.
Precisely....which is why I advocate for a veteran backup. Development is the key to this team. Give the other young guys a chance.
If we had a much more veteran, capable team around Kessler I would be in favor of him taking over perhaps in the event of an injury to McC. But we don't have that kind of team. That would be the blind leading the blind.
Let us have a guide dog in a veteran QB so that all our little eggs can hatch instead of being stolen by the fox of insecurity.
You are just ahead of yourself.
McCown can start and Kessler can backup.
We don't need another QB this week.
Those washups will still be out there when we need them.
Z
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Reminded me I had not looked up this mystery bone as yet...
Coincidence that the bone is named after our Week 2 opponent? Some people are saying it's not...
The coracoid process (from Greek κόραξ, crow) is a small hook-like structure on the lateral edge of the superior anterior portion of the scapula. Pointing laterally forward, it, together with the acromion, serves to stabilize the shoulder joint. It is palpable in the deltopectoral groove between the deltoid and pectoralis major muscles.
"Coracoid" in itself means "like a raven's beak", with reference to its shape. (Greek "Korax" = Raven)
T, from the Greek in me.^^^ Crow had nothing to do with it. From re-rolling the tape, just seems Rg3 was put in a no win situation. Can't slide when you have a defender pushing you from behind to sidelines & Sure enough theirs a defenders face mask waiting for you before you hit the sidelines. Ravens Beak? & I say Eagles Beak..
"Washups" is the perfect word...
Can't slide when you have a defender pushing you from behind to sidelines & Sure enough theirs a defenders face mask waiting for you before you hit the sidelines. Ravens Beak? & I say Eagles Beak..
True on the push, but RG had committed to the collision before the push occurred. Look again... there was a clear path OB a couple yards shy of where the collision ultimately occurred.
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"Washups" is the perfect word...
Can't slide when you have a defender pushing you from behind to sidelines & Sure enough theirs a defenders face mask waiting for you before you hit the sidelines. Ravens Beak? & I say Eagles Beak..
True on the push, but RG had committed to the collision before the push occurred. Look again... there was a clear path OB a couple yards shy of where the collision ultimately occurred.
"Washups" is the perfect word...
True on the push, but RG had committed to the collision before the push occurred. Look again... there was a clear path OB a couple yards shy of where the collision ultimately occurred.
Lets just say that like his passing, RG didn't show good judgment or skill on what he did there.
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Watching the throws from Wentz, he's really grown using his eyes holding the safety in place. Helps we didn't show a ton of 2 high as well. He's become much better at finding his second read.
The philly Oline did a pretty bang up job in pass pro. Also, I'm not sure I like Haden in this defense coming off an ankle injury. He's usually clocking people at the LOS but he seemed very hesitant jamming receivers.
On the Aguilar TD he mirror his released decently enough but didn't get a hand on him. That's just not Haden's game. He's a press corner.
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"Washups" is the perfect word...
Can't slide when you have a defender pushing you from behind to sidelines & Sure enough theirs a defenders face mask waiting for you before you hit the sidelines. Ravens Beak? & I say Eagles Beak..
True on the push, but RG had committed to the collision before the push occurred. Look again... there was a clear path OB a couple yards shy of where the collision ultimately occurred.
True on the push, but RG had committed to the collision before the push occurred. Look again... there was a clear path OB a couple yards shy of where the collision ultimately occurred.
Yep, I see ya T. Game of small windows & that one got broke. But we have been a couple yards shy since 99. We need a truck QB named CamBerger
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True on the push, but RG had committed to the collision before the push occurred. Look again... there was a clear path OB a couple yards shy of where the collision ultimately occurred.
Yep, I see ya T. Game of small windows & that one got broke. But we have been a couple yards shy since 99. We need a truck QB named CamBerger
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Actually we'll probably only have to chose whether we like saying Deshone or Deshaun better.
What's Dedifference?
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The first couple seasons of Always Sunny... made me laugh as hard as any sitcom ever has.
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Now that I've had time to think about McCown starting, I'm a little upset that we didn't trade him when we had the chance. Josh can play some ball, and while he's obviously far from perfect, he can still sling it. He'll push the ball downfield, be decently accurate, and hang tough in the pocket (sometimes TOO tough). He'll move the offense pretty well, but stall inside the red zone because we don't have enough viable targets yet. Lots of field goals, lots of field goals...
Josh might play well enough to knock us out of the top draft spot, and that's the problem. If your team is going to suck, why not COMPLETELY suck? We drafted Cody Kessler for a reason, so why not throw his ass in there? Baptism by fire...sink or swim. If by a miracle he turns out to show promise, then we hit the lottery. If he's not progressing, then we can draft whoever we want with the top pick. But McCown might catch fire a few times this year and win 4-5 games. That somewhat scares me.
On the other hand, Josh might make us more watchable, and that's a good thing. Many of us spend big bucks each year watching our team, going to games, or whatever. Josh moving the chains and putting some points on the board might make us a lot more fun to tolerate. Perhaps McCown gives us the best opportunity to truly evaluate our cupboard full of new receivers, and that is definitely a good thing.
I remember thinking last year, "Man...McCown can really sling the ball. I wonder what he could do with a guy like Josh Gordon?" Well, it appears like we might get that chance to see what Josh cooks up with an elite talent. We're going to be down a bunch of points in many games, and that means we're going to have to throw the ball. If you have Josh Gordon on your fantasy team, his value just went way up. This is also good for Corey Coleman. Nobody liked watching his awful drop last week, but Josh will be good for the kid. He'll settle him down and build a working relationship. Josh might be the best thing for Coleman, and it's about time a first round draft pick showed their worth in Cleveland. Fingers crossed.
Defense wasn't that terrible against the Eagles, and they appeared to get drained by the end of the game. Biggest problem was they didn't force turnovers. Had some chances too...
Now that Josh is starting you wish we would have traded him?
You guys that think we have to 0-16 to get good perplex me. Like we have to be super-bad to put ourself in position to get the right draft picks.
We have been Super Bad for years! It's not about drafting in the right spot, it's about drafting the right players.
I could care less about next years draft right now. I am excited to watch these young guys we have learn in Hue's system and then we will restock next year and hopefully draft the right guys and be much better.
Josh at QB actually gives guys like Coleman a chance to develop ... he's a veteran with a big arm which puts the entire playbook in play.
Let's go out and play football and be the best team we can be. The front office is doing a great job accumulating draft picks, don't worry about where we end up, look for progress, look for signs, look for the talent that is on the field and how it is being brought along. We've got two first rounders, we will be players in the draft. Let's hope Josh beats Baltimore and move forward from there.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Now that Josh is starting you wish we would have traded him?
You guys that think we have to 0-16 to get good perplex me. Like we have to be super-bad to put ourself in position to get the right draft picks.
We have been Super Bad for years! It's not about drafting in the right spot, it's about drafting the right players.
I could care less about next years draft right now. I am excited to watch these young guys we have learn in Hue's system and then we will restock next year and hopefully draft the right guys and be much better.
Josh at QB actually gives guys like Coleman a chance to develop ... he's a veteran with a big arm which puts the entire playbook in play.
Let's go out and play football and be the best team we can be. The front office is doing a great job accumulating draft picks, don't worry about where we end up, look for progress, look for signs, look for the talent that is on the field and how it is being brought along. We've got two first rounders, we will be players in the draft. Let's hope Josh beats Baltimore and move forward from there.
Zombo
Nah, we don't have to go 0-16, 2-14 will probably do it. MHO- Griffin stunk so bad against the Eagles McCown can't possibly do any worse. The is "Suck for Luck" revisited, I'm certainly not in denial over that fact. The National Media is literally Laughing out loud at the Browns incompetence.
Cheer up Z- next year with 2 firsts, two seconds, (that's 4 in the first 64) plus a couple compensatory picks in the 4th and 5th (that can now be traded) we had better get at least a couple pro bowlers out of that.
Actually we'll probably only have to chose whether we like saying Deshone or Deshaun better.
Right now it's Deshone, but Notre Dame quarterbacks give me the heebie jeebies. (Quinn, Clausen) As long as we have one of the top 2 picks, we'll be fine.
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I think Devito ruined it, but yeah the first couple seasons were awesome....WILD CARD!
You're fucking with us, right?
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Zombo said:
Now that Josh is starting you wish we would have traded him?
You guys that think we have to 0-16 to get good perplex me. Like we have to be super-bad to put ourself in position to get the right draft picks.
We have been Super Bad for years! It's not about drafting in the right spot, it's about drafting the right players.
I could care less about next years draft right now. I am excited to watch these young guys we have learn in Hue's system and then we will restock next year and hopefully draft the right guys and be much better.
Josh at QB actually gives guys like Coleman a chance to develop ... he's a veteran with a big arm which puts the entire playbook in play.
Let's go out and play football and be the best team we can be. The front office is doing a great job accumulating draft picks, don't worry about where we end up, look for progress, look for signs, look for the talent that is on the field and how it is being brought along. We've got two first rounders, we will be players in the draft. Let's hope Josh beats Baltimore and move forward from there.
Zombo
Nah, we don't have to go 0-16, 2-14 will probably do it. MHO- Griffin stunk so bad against the Eagles McCown can't possibly do any worse. The is "Suck for Luck" revisited, I'm certainly not in denial over that fact. The National Media is literally Laughing out loud at the Browns incompetence.
Cheer up Z- next year with 2 firsts, two seconds, (that's 4 in the first 64) plus a couple compensatory picks in the 4th and 5th (that can now be traded) we had better get at least a couple pro bowlers out of that.
Actually we'll probably only have to chose whether we like saying Deshone or Deshaun better.
Right now it's Deshone, but Notre Dame quarterbacks give me the heebie jeebies. (Quinn, Clausen) As long as we have one of the top 2 picks, we'll be fine.
Nah, we don't have to go 0-16, 2-14 will probably do it. MHO- Griffin stunk so bad against the Eagles McCown can't possibly do any worse. The is "Suck for Luck" revisited, I'm certainly not in denial over that fact. The National Media is literally Laughing out loud at the Browns incompetence.
Cheer up Z- next year with 2 firsts, two seconds, (that's 4 in the first 64) plus a couple compensatory picks in the 4th and 5th (that can now be traded) we had better get at least a couple pro bowlers out of that.
Right now it's Deshone, but Notre Dame quarterbacks give me the heebie jeebies. (Quinn, Clausen) As long as we have one of the top 2 picks, we'll be fine.
Cheer up??? I think I'm the only one that loves this team!
You guys enjoy talking about the draft and moaning like miserable mopes.
Zombo
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Nah, we don't have to go 0-16, 2-14 will probably do it. MHO- Griffin stunk so bad against the Eagles McCown can't possibly do any worse. The is "Suck for Luck" revisited, I'm certainly not in denial over that fact. The National Media is literally Laughing out loud at the Browns incompetence.
Cheer up Z- next year with 2 firsts, two seconds, (that's 4 in the first 64) plus a couple compensatory picks in the 4th and 5th (that can now be traded) we had better get at least a couple pro bowlers out of that.
Right now it's Deshone, but Notre Dame quarterbacks give me the heebie jeebies. (Quinn, Clausen) As long as we have one of the top 2 picks, we'll be fine.
Cheer up??? I think I'm the only one that loves this team!
You guys enjoy talking about the draft and moaning like miserable mopes.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Cheer up??? I think I'm the only one that loves this team!
It could be the rest of us have a 2-bag limit...
It could be the rest of us have a 2-bag limit...
That team from 2015, that was the limit for me.
Manziel, Dwayne Bowe, Justin Gilbert ... Pettine, Farmer and the worst draft selections of all time ... that was a hard team to stomach, I can't blame anyone for not liking that team.
But ... BAM ... they're gone!
And replaced with a young team we can grow with as fans.
We rebooted a miserable 3-13 team ... sure losing is hard to stomach ... but what were you guys expecting the first year??
I love watching a young guy like Carl Nassib ... we nailed a pick ... and a third rounder!
Coleman looks to have great skills ... Kindred, Oggie, Schoebert ... football players!
We replaced a bunch of sacks of shits and pussies like Mingo and Gilbert with young productive guys. Or did you enjoy rooting for old slow outside linebackers that couldn't get to the QB anymore?
We NEEDED to go scorched earth. Finally we have a real plan, from the beginning, and I am going to enjoy every second of it .. I can't wait to see them line up Sunday and see who emerges this week.
Finally, we have a coach who is not just here to be here, but is on an effing mission.
I love these young Brownies. I know that we NEEDED a reboot, and I am rooting for it all the way.
Every time I see a guy start to blossom into someone that is going to be a big part of this plan I get excited.
Hate on last year all you want. Why bitch about these guys as soon as they come out of the gate? You know what they are doing. Be patient. Quit being embarrassed to be a Browns fan and rally around these guys now ... it'll be fun, and you'll be glad you did.
Or you can sit around bitching about whether we are going 0-16 or 2-14 and how we are "National Joke" and how we have to draft so-and-so but that we will probably blow it ... BARF! So 2015.
Go Browns. Let's see these young guys smack some Ravens around.
Zombo
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It could be the rest of us have a 2-bag limit...
That team from 2015, that was the limit for me.
Manziel, Dwayne Bowe, Justin Gilbert ... Pettine, Farmer and the worst draft selections of all time ... that was a hard team to stomach, I can't blame anyone for not liking that team.
But ... BAM ... they're gone!
And replaced with a young team we can grow with as fans.
We rebooted a miserable 3-13 team ... sure losing is hard to stomach ... but what were you guys expecting the first year??
I love watching a young guy like Carl Nassib ... we nailed a pick ... and a third rounder!
Coleman looks to have great skills ... Kindred, Oggie, Schoebert ... football players!
We replaced a bunch of sacks of shits and pussies like Mingo and Gilbert with young productive guys. Or did you enjoy rooting for old slow outside linebackers that couldn't get to the QB anymore?
We NEEDED to go scorched earth. Finally we have a real plan, from the beginning, and I am going to enjoy every second of it .. I can't wait to see them line up Sunday and see who emerges this week.
Finally, we have a coach who is not just here to be here, but is on an effing mission.
I love these young Brownies. I know that we NEEDED a reboot, and I am rooting for it all the way.
Every time I see a guy start to blossom into someone that is going to be a big part of this plan I get excited.
Hate on last year all you want. Why bitch about these guys as soon as they come out of the gate? You know what they are doing. Be patient. Quit being embarrassed to be a Browns fan and rally around these guys now ... it'll be fun, and you'll be glad you did.
Or you can sit around bitching about whether we are going 0-16 or 2-14 and how we are "National Joke" and how we have to draft so-and-so but that we will probably blow it ... BARF! So 2015.
Go Browns. Let's see these young guys smack some Ravens around.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I love these young Brownies. I know that we NEEDED a reboot, and I am rooting for it all the way.Every time I see a guy start to blossom into someone that is going to be a big part of this plan I get excited.
Hate on last year all you want. Why bitch about these guys as soon as they come out of the gate? You know what they are doing. Be patient. Quit being embarrassed to be a Browns fan and rally around these guys now ... it'll be fun, and you'll be glad you did.
Or you can sit around bitching about whether we are going 0-16 or 2-14 and how we are "National Joke" and how we have to draft so-and-so but that we we will probably blow it ... BARF! So 2015.
Go Browns. Let's see these young guys smack some Ravens around.
Zombo
The past is past- and Ray has been Farmed out, as was Phil Savage and a host of other losers. Just saw one of the guys that The Hoorta was screaming we should take (Ladainian Tomlinson) got nominated for the HOF. (He's not the only potential HOFer that was still on the board when we drafted either.) If they had listened to my sage drafting acumen, we wouldn't have had to deal with the Quinn Fags, Wee-Dones, or Johnny Juicers either. Yes Mr. Zombo that's why the Browns have continued to suck- they have drafted like shit, and drafted shit. Like Jeremiah Pharms arrested for robbery before he ever made it to training camp, and the very forgettable Beau Bell. Mohamed Massive Drop, Brian Slowbiski, Davie Veikune, the list is almost endless. But I'm seeing faint signs of hope from this draft class. Judgement reserved.
I know we're going to be good, maybe even really good, come 2018 season. I'm not bitching about how bad we're going to be this year- just being realistic, and sort of laughing through the growing pains. I've resigned myself to the Dumpster Dive for one of the Ds. No sense getting upset or losing sleep over it.To put it in Ghoolie terms- I'm sort of worried about our Fatass Samoan Danny. He's not looking like a dominant first round pick right now.
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I enjoy seeing the new faces, even if I question the QB situation we were placed in. And I pass on judging the team until the second half of the season. I want to see hope blossom during games 9-16 and something besides trade downs if we have great (not just good) players we can add to the youth movement.
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No joke. Frank is fucking great.
Took a good show and turned into a great one. Classic lines from that character.
'and me...? I like banging whooores'.
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