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  • I look at our O, and I see a potentially very serviceable WR tandem with Pryor and Coleman, a pro-bowl (FWIW) tight end in Barnidge, two pretty decent runner in Crow and Duke. I see several components of a very solid OL in JT, Bitonio, Greco. Obviously a QB is a big thing, but we're not too many players away from having a very productive O, if injuries could stop fucking us over.

    On the D side, I see...? Haden is good when not injured. Nassib looks promising but it's very early. Same for a few others, but we're a lot more than a couple of players away from having a competitive, let alone top, defence.

    Get the feeling we'll see some Saints/Giants-esque performances, where our games end up finishing like 41-38, if both sides add one or two key players in the offseason.

    @gftchris said:

    On the D side, I see...? Haden is good when not injured. Nassib looks promising but it's very early. Same for a few others, but we're a lot more than a couple of players away from having a competitive, let alone top, defence.

    I have to add our DTs (feels good to type "DTs") Shelton and Meder/Paea have turned into space eaters inside.

  • SCHWARTZ DIDNT WANT TO SIGN WITH US STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I look at our O, and I see a potentially very serviceable WR tandem with Pryor and Coleman, a pro-bowl (FWIW) tight end in Barnidge, two pretty decent runner in Crow and Duke. I see several components of a very solid OL in JT, Bitonio, Greco. Obviously a QB is a big thing, but we're not too many players away from having a very productive O, if injuries could stop fucking us over.

    On the D side, I see...? Haden is good when not injured. Nassib looks promising but it's very early. Same for a few others, but we're a lot more than a couple of players away from having a competitive, let alone top, defence.

    Get the feeling we'll see some Saints/Giants-esque performances, where our games end up finishing like 41-38, if both sides add one or two key players in the offseason.

    @gftchris said:

    I see a potentially very serviceable WR tandem with Pryor and Coleman

    how can u see that with a sampling size of what, 1.3 games in coleman? and pryor now delegated to do everything?

    but ur right. coleman could be the next sammy watkins........ 🥷 :ph34r:

  • @gftchris said:

    I see a potentially very serviceable WR tandem with Pryor and Coleman

    how can u see that with a sampling size of what, 1.3 games in coleman? and pryor now delegated to do everything?

    but ur right. coleman could be the next sammy watkins........ 🥷 :ph34r:

    @miktoxic said:

    how can u see that with a sampling size of what, 1.3 games in coleman? and pryor now delegated to do everything?

    but ur right. coleman could be the next sammy watkins........ 🥷 :ph34r:

    Nice post potato tits.
  • @gftchris said:

    I look at our O, and I see a potentially very serviceable WR tandem with Pryor and Coleman, a pro-bowl (FWIW) tight end in Barnidge, two pretty decent runner in Crow and Duke. I see several components of a very solid OL in JT, Bitonio, Greco. Obviously a QB is a big thing, but we're not too many players away from having a very productive O, if injuries could stop fucking us over.

    On the D side, I see...? Haden is good when not injured. Nassib looks promising but it's very early. Same for a few others, but we're a lot more than a couple of players away from having a competitive, let alone top, defence.

    Get the feeling we'll see some Saints/Giants-esque performances, where our games end up finishing like 41-38, if both sides add one or two key players in the offseason.

    Agree. Injuries hurt badly....but absent those, the offense has tools (per the good definition).....where the defense seems to have a bunch of tools...per the bad definition.

    Jesus to Jesus, how did they get to this point? Letting go of Dansby/Whitner/Gipson/Kruger/ etc. etc. etc.?

    We could use both Myles Garrett and Jabril Peppers in the draft next year.....to hell with a Quarterback. (well, maybe not...but the defense is equally urgent.....more needs there).

    @the-gipper said:

    Jabril Peppers

    Nope.

  • As it stands I don't see us taking a QB early next year because from what I've read/seen there isn't one worth taking

    That could obviously change like it did with Wentz but with Kessler performing well I don't see it happening

  • @miktoxic said:

    how can u see that with a sampling size of what, 1.3 games in coleman? and pryor now delegated to do everything?

    but ur right. coleman could be the next sammy watkins........ 🥷 :ph34r:

    Nice post potato tits.

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    Nice post potato tits.

    That's Mr. Potato Tits to u.

    Good Day Sir!!

  • @gftchris said:

    I see a potentially very serviceable WR tandem with Pryor and Coleman

    how can u see that with a sampling size of what, 1.3 games in coleman? and pryor now delegated to do everything?

    but ur right. coleman could be the next sammy watkins........ 🥷 :ph34r:

    @miktoxic said:

    how can u see that with a sampling size of what, 1.3 games in coleman? and pryor now delegated to do everything?

    but ur right. coleman could be the next sammy watkins........ 🥷 :ph34r:

    If by that you mean he could be injured most of the time, he's on his way.

    It's based on the games he's played for us where his yardage hasn't come from blown coverages where he's wide open, but from solid route running, making defenders miss and coming down with tough catches.

  • SCHWARTZ DIDNT WANT TO SIGN WITH US STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    @wargograw said:

    SCHWARTZ DIDNT WANT TO SIGN WITH US STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

  • @wargograw said:

    SCHWARTZ DIDNT WANT TO SIGN WITH US STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    Not sure we will get to the bottom of that situation any time soon.
  • The Browns radio show went into Kessler's performance in depth, and I have to say, some of the stats were nothing short of eye-popping. For instance, Pro Football Focus creates their own "QB Rating" statistic, and it's probably measured by a whole bunch of different stuff, but the bottom line is that it obviously relates to how well a QB plays. Now, according to this stat, Kessler is ranked ahead of Kirk Cousins, Blake Bortles, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and a host of others. Not only that, but guess who leads the league in completion percentage against "being pressured"? Cody freaking Kessler is ranked NUMBER ONE against pressure, and he completes an astounding 86% of his passes when under duress. Now, I don't exactly know what constitutes "being pressured", but we're not talking about Cody being "pretty good" or "in the top half" of this category, we're talking about his being freaking number one. Granted, he hasn't played as much as other starters, but this completely shocked the crap out of me.

    There's no way to sugar coat this. We got killed by Josh Gordon (again) and Corey Coleman's injury. We knew before the season started that in order for us to surprise some people and steal some wins, we were going to have to avoid the injury bug. Not only have we NOT avoided it, we've embraced the damn thing. A team likes ours simply doesn't have the depth needed to overcome pivotal injuries, and that's just how it is. We will be further tested by losing our best guard, and probably the best guard in our division. We have gotten the lion's share of our rushing yards when running behind Joel's pulling skills, so don't be surprised if we can't run worth a crap (again). Exacerbating this scenario is the fact that the Titans have a killer DL. Yikes.

    But back to Kessler. Albert Breer wrote an article today which essentially commended the Browns on what they've done and how they are approaching the most recent rebuild. Breer further stated that the Browns were completely sold on Kessler before the draft, and were amazed with his ability to quickly digest information and apply it to his craft. Further, he went on to say that Kessler was the Browns first choice of day 2 QB's, and wanted Cody above and beyond ANY of the available players left. What we're starting to see is just a little bit of why our franchise was so high on him. I can't think of too many 3rd string QB's that could come in and not be totally lost after being thrown into the mix in like game 3. That's basically unheard of.

    Am I saying that Cody is our franchise QB? That he's an eventual allstar? That our problems are solved? Hell no, nobody is saying that, but the general feeling from a few sports writers and our management is that the game is not too big for Kessler, and he just might surprise some people. He doesn't get the ball down field, he doesn't run for any yards, yet he's calm, cool, and collected against the rush, and he seems to know where to go with the ball...not to mention throwing with surprising accuracy. We dodged a severe bullet with his recent injury, and we get to watch our young QB progress and try to win a position that nobody else could lock down. He's got a chance, no matter how small, and that's pretty exciting for this team.

  • @wargograw said:

    SCHWARTZ DIDNT WANT TO SIGN WITH US STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    you are correct,it was mack who didn't want to be here as usual wargogaw doe's not know what he is talking about

  • Mack is a quitter. He chose to leave. You usually don't get that chance, we'll throw you out if you ain't bout that life. But Mack was embraced and seen as one of the few bright spots in a dark Browns past... He sold out, I couldn't care less about him. Cribbs has a place in my orange heart because he bled OnB and still does to this day.

    Fuck you Alex Mack, I named my late axolotl after you and you broke our hearts.

  • @wargograw said:

    SCHWARTZ DIDNT WANT TO SIGN WITH US STOP ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    @gftchris said:

    Not sure we will get to the bottom of that situation any time soon.

    Guys, HueJax & FO have a plan on changing the culture in this town. Do you luv the game? Do you believe you can join us in making C-town a winner again? No Dak-DWI, stories were out Bosa nor Zeke wanted to be Browns. Story I read on Schwartz, was Browns wanted a answer from Mitch's agent on a deal that gave him more $$ than KC period. But agent refused, cuz agent(got number$$) still wanted to consult Mitch & KC. Does that sound like a guy Hue wants to go into battle with on Sundays? FO Statement was made that day. But penny pinching on talented FA's may doom them just as well too..

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    @gftchris said:

    Not sure we will get to the bottom of that situation any time soon.

    Guys, HueJax & FO have a plan on changing the culture in this town. Do you luv the game? Do you believe you can join us in making C-town a winner again? No Dak-DWI, stories were out Bosa nor Zeke wanted to be Browns. Story I read on Schwartz, was Browns wanted a answer from Mitch's agent on a deal that gave him more $$ than KC period. But agent refused, cuz agent(got number$$) still wanted to consult Mitch & KC. Does that sound like a guy Hue wants to go into battle with on Sundays? FO Statement was made that day. But penny pinching on talented FA's may doom them just as well too..

    @gumby73 said:

    Guys, HueJax & FO have a plan on changing the culture in this town. Do you luv the game? Do you believe you can join us in making C-town a winner again? No Dak-DWI, stories were out Bosa nor Zeke wanted to be Browns. Story I read on Schwartz, was Browns wanted a answer from Mitch's agent on a deal that gave him more $$ than KC period. But agent refused, cuz agent(got number$$) still wanted to consult Mitch & KC. Does that sound like a guy Hue wants to go into battle with on Sundays? FO Statement was made that day. But penny pinching on talented FA's may doom them just as well too..

    where is a fucking link to any of this you said ? you heard stories huh ? from fucking who ?

    hey I heard a story that the world is really flat the sky is green and the grass is blue

    so gumby I have to say you are talking out of your fucking ass

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    @gumby73 said:

    Guys, HueJax & FO have a plan on changing the culture in this town. Do you luv the game? Do you believe you can join us in making C-town a winner again? No Dak-DWI, stories were out Bosa nor Zeke wanted to be Browns. Story I read on Schwartz, was Browns wanted a answer from Mitch's agent on a deal that gave him more $$ than KC period. But agent refused, cuz agent(got number$$) still wanted to consult Mitch & KC. Does that sound like a guy Hue wants to go into battle with on Sundays? FO Statement was made that day. But penny pinching on talented FA's may doom them just as well too..

    where is a fucking link to any of this you said ? you heard stories huh ? from fucking who ?

    hey I heard a story that the world is really flat the sky is green and the grass is blue

    so gumby I have to say you are talking out of your fucking ass

    @syd said:

    where is a fucking link to any of this you said ? you heard stories huh ? from fucking who ?

    hey I heard a story that the world is really flat the sky is green and the grass is blue

    so gumby I have to say you are talking out of your fucking ass

    around here we have to babysit asshats like yourself. Go backwards to load more topic till you find Schwartz FA topics & read what is in front of you & not out of your ass..PS...may a herd of DAWGS shit Links in your Yard..(cuz this laptop won't) KC has a media also..Now, Can U Read between the lines?

  • sydS syd

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Really? I thought I recalled we took our offer off the table or something?

    you are correct,it was mack who didn't want to be here as usual wargogaw doe's not know what he is talking about

    @syd said:

    you are correct,it was mack who didn't want to be here as usual wargogaw doe's not know what he is talking about

    It was both reetard.

  • @syd said:

    where is a fucking link to any of this you said ? you heard stories huh ? from fucking who ?

    hey I heard a story that the world is really flat the sky is green and the grass is blue

    so gumby I have to say you are talking out of your fucking ass

    around here we have to babysit asshats like yourself. Go backwards to load more topic till you find Schwartz FA topics & read what is in front of you & not out of your ass..PS...may a herd of DAWGS shit Links in your Yard..(cuz this laptop won't) KC has a media also..Now, Can U Read between the lines?

    @gumby73 said:

    around here we have to babysit asshats like yourself. Go backwards to load more topic till you find Schwartz FA topics & read what is in front of you & not out of your ass..PS...may a herd of DAWGS shit Links in your Yard..(cuz this laptop won't) KC has a media also..Now, Can U Read between the lines?

    i'm not doing your work for you,if you have a link saying that both bosa and Elliot said they did not want to be Browns than post it,

    also I allways follow the draft closely especially the Browns and I never saw that,so prove it

  • Bosa said he hated Cleveland. Elliot made it really clear he wanted to "play for a contender" or something like that.

  • @syd said:

    you are correct,it was mack who didn't want to be here as usual wargogaw doe's not know what he is talking about

    It was both reetard.

    @wargograw said:

    It was both reetard.

    Agreed then. Mack didn't want to be here and wargo is an idiot. I mean who else wants to lose em all and still proclaim to be a fan...sheesh