Hopes, dreams and fears for games 9-16
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A little bird sent me the following article...
Cleveland Browns: Austin Pasztor excelling at pass protection
by Joel W. Cade 1 day ago
Cleveland Browns right tackle Austin Pasztor has struggled mightily at right tackle this season. Find out how he has turned it around.
Cleveland Browns offensive line coach Hal Hunter deserves a raise. His work with the offensive line has been nothing short of amazing.
Just four weeks ago, the line was giving up massive hits on quarterbacks, turning the position into a living hell on earth. However, one month later the offensive line who should have struggled against a very good New York Jets front seven went out and protected Josh McCown well. Their play gave the Browns an opportunity to win the game. Unfortunately, failure to execute from the quarterback and wide receiver positions ultimately held the offense back.
Helping the offensive line was a change in the way offensive line calls were made. Josh McCown called out the mike in pass protection coverage and he made relevant line blocking calls. When a call was made at the line of scrimmage, it was usually John Greco making the calls. He called out the changes in protections and run blocking schemes.
This sounds contradictory so let me explain. McCown made the initial call based on what the defense lined up at initially. McCown then made a dummy cadence call to get the defense to show their hand. If changes were necessary after that point, they were made by John Greco. McCown made changes with the receivers and backs. This system worked very well for the Browns on Sunday.
The most improved player over the past four weeks is far and away Austin Pasztor. I have been very critical of Pasztor in my articles. It is nice to see his play not only improve but actually be outstanding for his position.
Run blocking has always been his strength. He is a pure road grater who has opened many holes in the running game. However, pass protection has been a serious struggle for him. Over the past few weeks, Pasztor has consistently improved in pass protection. Dare I say it, but Pasztor right now is a better overall tackle than Mitchell Schwartz (whose game is limited to pass protection).
Pasztor gets off the ball
Pasztorβs sets in pass protection are much improved. Early in the season, Pasztor struggled to get out of his stance, create space and set to take on the defender quickly enough.
Pasztor was consistently late out of his stance. This created problems for him on the rest of the block. It would make sense for him to get out of his stance late because of his switch from guard to tackle. At guard, it is easier to hear the cadence and see the ball.
Tackle is like playing on an island in pass protection. There is a greater need to time the snap at tackle as opposed to guard. As a guard, one can compensate for being late off the ball because there is less ground to cover and help from the center. At tackle, especially facing a speed rusher, there is more ground to cover and less time to cover it.
In order to cover the ground quickly, the tackle must anticipate the snap count must like a defensive end. The offense knows the snap count, but if he can get off a little earlier without false starting, then a major advantage is created. This is why tackles will more often false start than guards in pass protection.
Pasztor has figured out the skill of anticipating the snap. It has allowed him to create space more effectively and to get set before the initial contact with the defender. A good start leads to a good block. Pasztor is figuring that out.
Pasztor beating the Wide-9 Rush
Pasztor has figured out how to set the Wide-9 technique. Pasztor struggled early in the season against speed rushers converting speed to power. He still struggles to an extent but he is figuring out how to cut off the inside line from rushers.
In previous games, Pasztor would be late off the ball and unprepared at the point of contact. As such, he was at the mercy of the defender. That is, his failure to set allowed the defender to make any move he wanted and take any path to the quarterback he wanted.
Now Pasztor is setting on time. In addition, he is using his body to dictate terms to the defender. In previous weeks, Pasztor would open his hips to face the defender giving the defender two options. He gave up major hits on Griffin, McCown and Kessler when beat on the inside move. Now Pasztor is keeping his shoulders and hips square to the line of scrimmage closing off that inside lane. By doing so, he dictates to the defender the lane he can rush.
By dictating terms to the defender, Pasztor is taking control of the pass protection and making his job much easier. For example, by setting setting square and closing off the inside lane, Pasztor is forcing defenders to take the longer outside lane. This plays into his hands as he can run a speed rusher past the quarterback or stand up the power rusher creating a nice pocket for the quarterback.
The improvement of Austin Pasztor is real and should be taken seriously. Hal Hunter deserves a raise for his work with Pasztor. I once asked, can Austin Pasztor be fixed? The answer is clearly yes because he has been fixed. This is great news for Browns quarterbacks.
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2016/11/02/cleveland-browns-austin-pasztor-excelling-at-pass-protection/3/
A little bird sent me the following article...
Cleveland Browns: Austin Pasztor excelling at pass protection
by Joel W. Cade 1 day ago
Cleveland Browns right tackle Austin Pasztor has struggled mightily at right tackle this season. Find out how he has turned it around.
Cleveland Browns offensive line coach Hal Hunter deserves a raise. His work with the offensive line has been nothing short of amazing.
Just four weeks ago, the line was giving up massive hits on quarterbacks, turning the position into a living hell on earth. However, one month later the offensive line who should have struggled against a very good New York Jets front seven went out and protected Josh McCown well. Their play gave the Browns an opportunity to win the game. Unfortunately, failure to execute from the quarterback and wide receiver positions ultimately held the offense back.
Helping the offensive line was a change in the way offensive line calls were made. Josh McCown called out the mike in pass protection coverage and he made relevant line blocking calls. When a call was made at the line of scrimmage, it was usually John Greco making the calls. He called out the changes in protections and run blocking schemes.
This sounds contradictory so let me explain. McCown made the initial call based on what the defense lined up at initially. McCown then made a dummy cadence call to get the defense to show their hand. If changes were necessary after that point, they were made by John Greco. McCown made changes with the receivers and backs. This system worked very well for the Browns on Sunday.
The most improved player over the past four weeks is far and away Austin Pasztor. I have been very critical of Pasztor in my articles. It is nice to see his play not only improve but actually be outstanding for his position.
Run blocking has always been his strength. He is a pure road grater who has opened many holes in the running game. However, pass protection has been a serious struggle for him. Over the past few weeks, Pasztor has consistently improved in pass protection. Dare I say it, but Pasztor right now is a better overall tackle than Mitchell Schwartz (whose game is limited to pass protection).
Pasztor gets off the ball
Pasztorβs sets in pass protection are much improved. Early in the season, Pasztor struggled to get out of his stance, create space and set to take on the defender quickly enough.
Pasztor was consistently late out of his stance. This created problems for him on the rest of the block. It would make sense for him to get out of his stance late because of his switch from guard to tackle. At guard, it is easier to hear the cadence and see the ball.
Tackle is like playing on an island in pass protection. There is a greater need to time the snap at tackle as opposed to guard. As a guard, one can compensate for being late off the ball because there is less ground to cover and help from the center. At tackle, especially facing a speed rusher, there is more ground to cover and less time to cover it.
In order to cover the ground quickly, the tackle must anticipate the snap count must like a defensive end. The offense knows the snap count, but if he can get off a little earlier without false starting, then a major advantage is created. This is why tackles will more often false start than guards in pass protection.
Pasztor has figured out the skill of anticipating the snap. It has allowed him to create space more effectively and to get set before the initial contact with the defender. A good start leads to a good block. Pasztor is figuring that out.
Pasztor beating the Wide-9 Rush
Pasztor has figured out how to set the Wide-9 technique. Pasztor struggled early in the season against speed rushers converting speed to power. He still struggles to an extent but he is figuring out how to cut off the inside line from rushers.
In previous games, Pasztor would be late off the ball and unprepared at the point of contact. As such, he was at the mercy of the defender. That is, his failure to set allowed the defender to make any move he wanted and take any path to the quarterback he wanted.
Now Pasztor is setting on time. In addition, he is using his body to dictate terms to the defender. In previous weeks, Pasztor would open his hips to face the defender giving the defender two options. He gave up major hits on Griffin, McCown and Kessler when beat on the inside move. Now Pasztor is keeping his shoulders and hips square to the line of scrimmage closing off that inside lane. By doing so, he dictates to the defender the lane he can rush.
By dictating terms to the defender, Pasztor is taking control of the pass protection and making his job much easier. For example, by setting setting square and closing off the inside lane, Pasztor is forcing defenders to take the longer outside lane. This plays into his hands as he can run a speed rusher past the quarterback or stand up the power rusher creating a nice pocket for the quarterback.
The improvement of Austin Pasztor is real and should be taken seriously. Hal Hunter deserves a raise for his work with Pasztor. I once asked, can Austin Pasztor be fixed? The answer is clearly yes because he has been fixed. This is great news for Browns quarterbacks.
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2016/11/02/cleveland-browns-austin-pasztor-excelling-at-pass-protection/3/
LOL Tour- according to the departed Ghoolie, they're all a bunch of dime a dozen unskilled fatasses. This technical stuff is a mile over his head. BTW, talked to Z at the Cavs game tonight- he's never coming back, so rest easy.
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Before the season started I ranted on about how this team needs to be able to stop the run. Danny Divito could get 100+ yards on us.
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Then the Ravens and the pats need to sign Danny Devito ASAP....
What's your definition of "stop"?
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Then the Ravens and the pats need to sign Danny Devito ASAP....
What's your definition of "stop"?
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Before the season started I ranted on about how this team needs to be able to stop the run. Danny Divito could get 100+ yards on us.
Before the season started I ranted on about how this team needs to be able to stop the run. Danny Divito could get 100+ yards on us.
Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
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Cleveland Brown's chances of going 0-16 is 3%...at least according to the brainiac that came up with this. . .
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Cleveland Brown's chances of going 0-16 is 3%...at least according to the brainiac that came up with this. . .
Cleveland Brown's chances of going 0-16 is 3%...at least according to the brainiac that came up with this. . .
I don't he counted the Charlie Brown factor. That would be at least a tenfold or better multiplier.
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his percentages are much much higher than what i use to figure on 10%
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Giants or Ravens we are most likely to beat in my opinion.
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Before the season started I ranted on about how this team needs to be able to stop the run. Danny Divito could get 100+ yards on us.
Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
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Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
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Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
I wasnt aware that we drafted 3 front seven players in last years first round....musta been a different draft I watched....
Nor was I aware that Pettine drafted people(thought it was Farmer)(and Jimmah on the Manziel fiasco)....
All I know is that the first 6 players drafted last season are all starters this season.....and our best young "core" players are Bito, Kirksey, Crow, Duke, Shelton, Campbell, Pryor and Orchard....where'd they come from?
Yeah...Erving....he sucks.....but sashi seems unable to find a center better than terrible....
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
No doubt....the nerve....(he strikes).................everytime......
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Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
I wasnt aware that we drafted 3 front seven players in last years first round....musta been a different draft I watched....
Nor was I aware that Pettine drafted people(thought it was Farmer)(and Jimmah on the Manziel fiasco)....
All I know is that the first 6 players drafted last season are all starters this season.....and our best young "core" players are Bito, Kirksey, Crow, Duke, Shelton, Campbell, Pryor and Orchard....where'd they come from?
Yeah...Erving....he sucks.....but sashi seems unable to find a center better than terrible....
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
No doubt....the nerve....(he strikes).................everytime......
I wasnt aware that we drafted 3 front seven players in last years first round....musta been a different draft I watched....
Nor was I aware that Pettine drafted people(thought it was Farmer)(and Jimmah on the Manziel fiasco)....
All I know is that the first 6 players drafted last season are all starters this season.....and our best young "core" players are Bito, Kirksey, Crow, Duke, Shelton, Campbell, Pryor and Orchard....where'd they come from?
Yeah...Erving....he sucks.....but sashi seems unable to find a center better than terrible....
No doubt....the nerve....(he strikes).................everytime......
Apologies. The first two rounds. Massive difference, I guess. You loved everything associated with Pettine. Your bitterness over his firing oozes into every post. I like the players you listed too. I liked Farmer, but unlike you, I can let it go and like Sashi too.
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Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
Pettine was in charge.
. You loved everything associated with Pettine. Your bitterness over his firing oozes into every post. I like the players you listed too. I liked Farmer, but unlike you, I can let it go and like Sashi too.
Hmm.....looks to me like it was you who brought him up.......
I let them go....but I just dont like what I see happening now....seems like(for the millionth time) you cant get that to sink into your narrow mind
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You can say that all you want, doesn't make it true. You defended the vast majority of questionable Pettine moves to the hilt. With this regime it's nothing but whining about absolutely everything with a ton of being a smartass sprinkled in.
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get a life Wargo.....and a new hobby.....you always telling poeple what and how to post has gotten old....try just offering your football insight and let the others do the same(me included)
and bitchin about me bitchin about Pettine?.....tis you who needs to let it go.....again,,,,,didnt mention him once(you did)
I think the FO and this team bite(worse than ever) and have every right to say it....so get over it already.....(been telling you this for a year or 2 now)....
whatever your boner for me is....Ive long been tired of it.....like I said....find a new hobby and let this 40 year Browns fan speak his mind.....Ive earned the right to do it , without some smart ass kid from Texas learning me on what I should think and feel about my lifelong team ....get it??? ....(doubtful)
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I would add.....Coaches coach and FO's pick players......
My argument last year was I thought the talent was the issue, not coaching....
Same story this year.....my beef is with the FO, not the coaches.....so how does me not liking Sashi even relate to Pettine(coach).....your mixed up....(and back on ignore)
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pretty obvious that most of us want to see those things...
but throwing off on Danny Shelton was stupid - the kid
very obviously means business, lost that weight -
you worry too much, Chris.
The Browns need to draft/sign a safety and fix the secondary. Without Joe Haden in there,
they are nearly helpless.
Kindred can play - he will be even better next year. S or CB in the first round.
I do believe thte Browns will draft a qb. I would hope, though it's very..very early, that it would
be Trubisky. Not sold on Kizer at this point.
Still don't know if/how RGIII sees the field like he needs to. I admire McCown - Kessler makes the
quickest, smartest decisions of the three. Right now, I think Trubisky is like Kessler with a bigger arm.
Still, I LOVE the way the Browns play this year- as far as attitude, going for it- being a TEAM, ..
they are just not that many players away. They kick ass often and move the ball, etc.
The defense is starting to shove the run up the middle in the offenses' face.
I've watched every game Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, this year and Lamar Jackson is the QB I would target. He's 6'3" 205lbs and has 26 touchdowns and close to 3,000 yards through nine games. He's only a sophomore but if he declares that's the guy!pretty obvious that most of us want to see those things...
but throwing off on Danny Shelton was stupid - the kid
very obviously means business, lost that weight -
you worry too much, Chris.
The Browns need to draft/sign a safety and fix the secondary. Without Joe Haden in there,
they are nearly helpless.
Kindred can play - he will be even better next year. S or CB in the first round.
I do believe thte Browns will draft a qb. I would hope, though it's very..very early, that it would
be Trubisky. Not sold on Kizer at this point.
Still don't know if/how RGIII sees the field like he needs to. I admire McCown - Kessler makes the
quickest, smartest decisions of the three. Right now, I think Trubisky is like Kessler with a bigger arm.
Still, I LOVE the way the Browns play this year- as far as attitude, going for it- being a TEAM, ..
they are just not that many players away. They kick ass often and move the ball, etc.
The defense is starting to shove the run up the middle in the offenses' face.
Kizer truly stinks and is over hyped. Remember Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn?! JT Barret from Ohio State is better than Kizer anyway.
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