Hopes, dreams and fears for games 9-16
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his percentages are much much higher than what i use to figure on 10%
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Giants or Ravens we are most likely to beat in my opinion.
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Before the season started I ranted on about how this team needs to be able to stop the run. Danny Divito could get 100+ yards on us.
Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
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Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
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Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
I wasnt aware that we drafted 3 front seven players in last years first round....musta been a different draft I watched....
Nor was I aware that Pettine drafted people(thought it was Farmer)(and Jimmah on the Manziel fiasco)....
All I know is that the first 6 players drafted last season are all starters this season.....and our best young "core" players are Bito, Kirksey, Crow, Duke, Shelton, Campbell, Pryor and Orchard....where'd they come from?
Yeah...Erving....he sucks.....but sashi seems unable to find a center better than terrible....
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
No doubt....the nerve....(he strikes).................everytime......
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Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
I wasnt aware that we drafted 3 front seven players in last years first round....musta been a different draft I watched....
Nor was I aware that Pettine drafted people(thought it was Farmer)(and Jimmah on the Manziel fiasco)....
All I know is that the first 6 players drafted last season are all starters this season.....and our best young "core" players are Bito, Kirksey, Crow, Duke, Shelton, Campbell, Pryor and Orchard....where'd they come from?
Yeah...Erving....he sucks.....but sashi seems unable to find a center better than terrible....
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
No doubt....the nerve....(he strikes).................everytime......
I wasnt aware that we drafted 3 front seven players in last years first round....musta been a different draft I watched....
Nor was I aware that Pettine drafted people(thought it was Farmer)(and Jimmah on the Manziel fiasco)....
All I know is that the first 6 players drafted last season are all starters this season.....and our best young "core" players are Bito, Kirksey, Crow, Duke, Shelton, Campbell, Pryor and Orchard....where'd they come from?
Yeah...Erving....he sucks.....but sashi seems unable to find a center better than terrible....
No doubt....the nerve....(he strikes).................everytime......
Apologies. The first two rounds. Massive difference, I guess. You loved everything associated with Pettine. Your bitterness over his firing oozes into every post. I like the players you listed too. I liked Farmer, but unlike you, I can let it go and like Sashi too.
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Dude....stop the run schmop the run....everyone knows when you have the worst run defense....or plain old worst defense(period)....in the entire league....the smart plan is to wait on drafting top level DL and LB's and, instead, rebuild the WR corps first....cause WR's are the PRIMARY element to rebuilding a team from scratch....draft em and build around em...
and, since those WR's will improve your D immediately, the next step is to cut all your defensive starters and play their back ups......
works every time.....
Cool post, because taking 3 front 7 players in the first round of 2015 totally made our run defense AWESOME! But you didn't have the sarcastic ahole comments about that one of course. Pettine was in charge.
Pettine was in charge.
. You loved everything associated with Pettine. Your bitterness over his firing oozes into every post. I like the players you listed too. I liked Farmer, but unlike you, I can let it go and like Sashi too.
Hmm.....looks to me like it was you who brought him up.......
I let them go....but I just dont like what I see happening now....seems like(for the millionth time) you cant get that to sink into your narrow mind
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You can say that all you want, doesn't make it true. You defended the vast majority of questionable Pettine moves to the hilt. With this regime it's nothing but whining about absolutely everything with a ton of being a smartass sprinkled in.
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get a life Wargo.....and a new hobby.....you always telling poeple what and how to post has gotten old....try just offering your football insight and let the others do the same(me included)
and bitchin about me bitchin about Pettine?.....tis you who needs to let it go.....again,,,,,didnt mention him once(you did)
I think the FO and this team bite(worse than ever) and have every right to say it....so get over it already.....(been telling you this for a year or 2 now)....
whatever your boner for me is....Ive long been tired of it.....like I said....find a new hobby and let this 40 year Browns fan speak his mind.....Ive earned the right to do it , without some smart ass kid from Texas learning me on what I should think and feel about my lifelong team ....get it??? ....(doubtful)
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I would add.....Coaches coach and FO's pick players......
My argument last year was I thought the talent was the issue, not coaching....
Same story this year.....my beef is with the FO, not the coaches.....so how does me not liking Sashi even relate to Pettine(coach).....your mixed up....(and back on ignore)
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pretty obvious that most of us want to see those things...
but throwing off on Danny Shelton was stupid - the kid
very obviously means business, lost that weight -
you worry too much, Chris.
The Browns need to draft/sign a safety and fix the secondary. Without Joe Haden in there,
they are nearly helpless.
Kindred can play - he will be even better next year. S or CB in the first round.
I do believe thte Browns will draft a qb. I would hope, though it's very..very early, that it would
be Trubisky. Not sold on Kizer at this point.
Still don't know if/how RGIII sees the field like he needs to. I admire McCown - Kessler makes the
quickest, smartest decisions of the three. Right now, I think Trubisky is like Kessler with a bigger arm.
Still, I LOVE the way the Browns play this year- as far as attitude, going for it- being a TEAM, ..
they are just not that many players away. They kick ass often and move the ball, etc.
The defense is starting to shove the run up the middle in the offenses' face.
I've watched every game Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, this year and Lamar Jackson is the QB I would target. He's 6'3" 205lbs and has 26 touchdowns and close to 3,000 yards through nine games. He's only a sophomore but if he declares that's the guy!pretty obvious that most of us want to see those things...
but throwing off on Danny Shelton was stupid - the kid
very obviously means business, lost that weight -
you worry too much, Chris.
The Browns need to draft/sign a safety and fix the secondary. Without Joe Haden in there,
they are nearly helpless.
Kindred can play - he will be even better next year. S or CB in the first round.
I do believe thte Browns will draft a qb. I would hope, though it's very..very early, that it would
be Trubisky. Not sold on Kizer at this point.
Still don't know if/how RGIII sees the field like he needs to. I admire McCown - Kessler makes the
quickest, smartest decisions of the three. Right now, I think Trubisky is like Kessler with a bigger arm.
Still, I LOVE the way the Browns play this year- as far as attitude, going for it- being a TEAM, ..
they are just not that many players away. They kick ass often and move the ball, etc.
The defense is starting to shove the run up the middle in the offenses' face.
Kizer truly stinks and is over hyped. Remember Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn?! JT Barret from Ohio State is better than Kizer anyway.
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I've watched every game Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, this year and Lamar Jackson is the QB I would target. He's 6'3" 205lbs and has 26 touchdowns and close to 3,000 yards through nine games. He's only a sophomore but if he declares that's the guy!pretty obvious that most of us want to see those things...
but throwing off on Danny Shelton was stupid - the kid
very obviously means business, lost that weight -
you worry too much, Chris.
The Browns need to draft/sign a safety and fix the secondary. Without Joe Haden in there,
they are nearly helpless.
Kindred can play - he will be even better next year. S or CB in the first round.
I do believe thte Browns will draft a qb. I would hope, though it's very..very early, that it would
be Trubisky. Not sold on Kizer at this point.
Still don't know if/how RGIII sees the field like he needs to. I admire McCown - Kessler makes the
quickest, smartest decisions of the three. Right now, I think Trubisky is like Kessler with a bigger arm.
Still, I LOVE the way the Browns play this year- as far as attitude, going for it- being a TEAM, ..
they are just not that many players away. They kick ass often and move the ball, etc.
The defense is starting to shove the run up the middle in the offenses' face.
Kizer truly stinks and is over hyped. Remember Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn?! JT Barret from Ohio State is better than Kizer anyway.
I've watched every game Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, this year and Lamar Jackson is the QB I would target. He's 6'3" 205lbs and has 26 touchdowns and close to 3,000 yards through nine games. He's only a sophomore but if he declares that's the guy!
Kizer truly stinks and is over hyped. Remember Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn?! JT Barret from Ohio State is better than Kizer anyway.
Opal-he can't declare. That is the point. You must be at least a Jr. or a redshirt soph to declare. He is a true soph and therefore ineligible to declare for the 2017 draft.
Now basketball is a totally different story, but this is how it works currently for the NFL.
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get a life Wargo.....and a new hobby.....you always telling poeple what and how to post has gotten old....try just offering your football insight and let the others do the same(me included)
and bitchin about me bitchin about Pettine?.....tis you who needs to let it go.....again,,,,,didnt mention him once(you did)
I think the FO and this team bite(worse than ever) and have every right to say it....so get over it already.....(been telling you this for a year or 2 now)....
whatever your boner for me is....Ive long been tired of it.....like I said....find a new hobby and let this 40 year Browns fan speak his mind.....Ive earned the right to do it , without some smart ass kid from Texas learning me on what I should think and feel about my lifelong team ....get it??? ....(doubtful)
get a life Wargo.....and a new hobby.....you always telling poeple what and how to post has gotten old....try just offering your football insight and let the others do the same(me included)
and bitchin about me bitchin about Pettine?.....tis you who needs to let it go.....again,,,,,didnt mention him once(you did)
I think the FO and this team bite(worse than ever) and have every right to say it....so get over it already.....(been telling you this for a year or 2 now)....
whatever your boner for me is....Ive long been tired of it.....like I said....find a new hobby and let this 40 year Browns fan speak his mind.....Ive earned the right to do it , without some smart ass kid from Texas learning me on what I should think and feel about my lifelong team ....get it??? ....(doubtful)
You practically got a degree in apologetics during the Pettine era but now criticize the FO and coaching staff (no matter how much you deny it) for every. little. thing. You don't have to throw an addendum of "I'm mad about Pettine" on every post for everyone here not to get the implication. So whether you mention him explicitly or not, we all know what the agenda is.
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I would add.....Coaches coach and FO's pick players......
My argument last year was I thought the talent was the issue, not coaching....
Same story this year.....my beef is with the FO, not the coaches.....so how does me not liking Sashi even relate to Pettine(coach).....your mixed up....(and back on ignore)
I would add.....Coaches coach and FO's pick players......
My argument last year was I thought the talent was the issue, not coaching....
Same story this year.....my beef is with the FO, not the coaches.....so how does me not liking Sashi even relate to Pettine(coach).....your mixed up....(and back on ignore)
Riiiiight. You constantly point out how neither side of the ball has improved (even though re: offense, pretty much no one agrees with you). You said last week we quit in the second half. You said our halftime adjustments sucked. If I wanted to spend some time, I could probably find a million more examples. So no, I'm not mixed up.
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Hopes......... I don't have to sell more of my tickets
Dreams...... I get to go to the Super Bowl as a season ticket holder
Fear..... I have spent 100's of thousands of dollars for the worst run sport franchise EVER!!!!!
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I've watched every game Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, this year and Lamar Jackson is the QB I would target. He's 6'3" 205lbs and has 26 touchdowns and close to 3,000 yards through nine games. He's only a sophomore but if he declares that's the guy!
Kizer truly stinks and is over hyped. Remember Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn?! JT Barret from Ohio State is better than Kizer anyway.
Opal-he can't declare. That is the point. You must be at least a Jr. or a redshirt soph to declare. He is a true soph and therefore ineligible to declare for the 2017 draft.
Now basketball is a totally different story, but this is how it works currently for the NFL.
Opal-he can't declare. That is the point. You must be at least a Jr. or a redshirt soph to declare. He is a true soph and therefore ineligible to declare for the 2017 draft.
Now basketball is a totally different story, but this is how it works currently for the NFL.
I wasn't sure about that AG- thanks for clearing it up.
Riiiiight. You constantly point out how neither side of the ball has improved (even though re: offense, pretty much no one agrees with you). You said last week we quit in the second half. You said our halftime adjustments sucked. If I wanted to spend some time, I could probably find a million more examples. So no, I'm not mixed up.
Ha no one agrees with Mud? From a points scored\game standpoint- (29th NFL) I can sure say we've seen no improvement. Is the talent better? Maybe- but that talent hasn't translated into wins,or points. And the defense is flat out terrible. Maybe if we had a defense on the order of the '85 Bears, we might have eked out a few wins by now. Getting beat by an average of 11 per game.
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You can say that all you want, doesn't make it true. You defended the vast majority of questionable Pettine moves to the hilt. With this regime it's nothing but whining about absolutely everything with a ton of being a smartass sprinkled in.
You can say that all you want, doesn't make it true. You defended the vast majority of questionable Pettine moves to the hilt. With this regime it's nothing but whining about absolutely everything with a ton of being a smartass sprinkled in.
Mud makes more sense than you child. He wants to see good football played like most Browns fans. You seem more like another loser from taxas
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We are now 10 point underdogs to the 4-4 Ravens Th night.
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If that's a joke, I don't get it.
This ought to help...
... sarcastic ahole comments..
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
Better?
You loved everything associated with Pettine. Your bitterness over his firing oozes into every post.
Now a serious post...
Bullfuck!
Mud, I and a couple others pointed out the lack of talent on the team in general and the Defense in particular. We felt this was at least a significant, if not the major, reason for the team's lack of success... especially in 2015.
No one ever apologized for Pettine. We simply challenged the majority, which I'd forgotten included you, that Coaching was THE problem. I forgot forgot you were a Farmer guy, that's how much I;ve clung to Pet, but in typing this I suddenly did remember that you were a Manzielot... one of the "good ones".
So it makes sense that you would end up on the other side of our argument since your boy's destructive presence was a burden for any HC, let alone a first timer...
... but that's no reason for you to make shit up...
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