***Official Browns Vs. Steelers Game Day Thread***
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Getting harder to bear the negativity here...
No.. we're not good, but how can folks dump on a D that held a very good, very talented offense to 17 points despite being on the field for 34 minutes? Our D bent into a pretzel, but stiffened in the Red Zone three out of four times. And the one time they did relent was on the third shot from inside the 2.
Our D played its ass off this week... brought back memories of our old rubberband gang. We even showed signs of blitz designs that had a chance to get home. Unfortunately this ain't horseshoes or hand-grenades.
O? Different story... but still there were some bright spots.
- Pryor expanded his route tree and showed just how tough he is... and, when he came back and in and patted Mitchell, showed he knows football.
- Coleman showed he can complete for 50/50 balls.
OK.... maybe there were only two bright spots...
Getting harder to bear the negativity here...
No.. we're not good, but how can folks dump on a D that held a very good, very talented offense to 17 points despite being on the field for 34 minutes? Our D bent into a pretzel, but stiffened in the Red Zone three out of four times. And the one time they did relent was on the third shot from inside the 2.
Our D played its ass off this week... brought back memories of our old rubberband gang. We even showed signs of blitz designs that had a chance to get home. Unfortunately this ain't horseshoes or hand-grenades.
O? Different story... but still there were some bright spots.
- Pryor expanded his route tree and showed just how tough he is... and, when he came back and in and patted Mitchell, showed he knows football.
- Coleman showed he can complete for 50/50 balls.
Maybe this is hazy memory from the flu medicine, but I recall seeing 3 or 4 overload blitzes that didn't pay off.
It seemed like they were able to block us despite being one short of whatever we brought.
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Now we have players calling out the FO for not getting blockers. And with a GM that's quadrophonic, who gets that blame... Stosh? Depot? Jimmy? DeeDee? Questions, questions, questions, and as always, no real answers.
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Now we have players calling out the FO for not getting blockers. And with a GM that's quadrophonic, who gets that blame... Stosh? Depot? Jimmy? DeeDee? Questions, questions, questions, and as always, no real answers.
Now we have players calling out the FO for not getting blockers.
Crap....I called em out during FA and then in camp and then in preseason.....and was told repeatedly, shhhhhh....it's the plan....
New FA QB in RGIII.....with a history of injury....yet having an OL is something saved for the "future"......
Starting Cam Erving....WITHOUT A PLAN B......was the dumbest move ever.....pathetic....
The plan is that they have no plan.....except erase and start over.....without any preparation or thought to who gets erased and who gets replaced....and when.....
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You mean like instead of drafting 4WR, limit it to one and take 4 blockers?
They get one every other year but never make it a priority.
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Or....after losing Schwartz and Mack.....and KNOWING they'd probably leave and having tons of time to plan.....they end up doing absolutely nothing to replace them?
Could have easily signed a couple vet FA's....or drafted a center......
But to commit to Erving....after watching him last year?.....and not have a back up or a vet to step in?.....turble
Did the same thing with OLBS......cut 3 out of 4 vets....then drafted 1 in the 4th.......and waited 8 weeks into the season, then said....HEY! We need an OLB......
A plan guaranteed to make you suck.....
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Or....after losing Schwartz and Mack.....and KNOWING they'd probably leave and having tons of time to plan.....they end up doing absolutely nothing to replace them?
Could have easily signed a couple vet FA's....or drafted a center......
But to commit to Erving....after watching him last year?.....and not have a back up or a vet to step in?.....turble
Did the same thing with OLBS......cut 3 out of 4 vets....then drafted 1 in the 4th.......and waited 8 weeks into the season, then said....HEY! We need an OLB......
A plan guaranteed to make you suck.....
Or....after losing Schwartz and Mack.....and KNOWING they'd probably leave and having tons of time to plan.....they end up doing absolutely nothing to replace them?
Could have easily signed a couple vet FA's....or drafted a center......
But to commit to Erving....after watching him last year?.....and not have a back up or a vet to step in?.....turble
Did the same thing with OLBS......cut 3 out of 4 vets....then drafted 1 in the 4th.......and waited 8 weeks into the season, then said....HEY! We need an OLB......
A plan guaranteed to make you suck.....
Call me crazy, but I'm actually ok with this year's LB core. Remember, the Desmond Bryant injury moved Ogbah to the D line, so he's out of position.
I'm surprised Shon Coleman hasn't hardly played. Drango looked bad yesterday, but we need to see more. Could it possibly be the weak link at center is causing all the other breakdowns of the line?
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And of the top pick. Coleman is looking like Braylon. Had the dropsies in school...and showed them Sunday. Hmmmm, a WR with stone hands, go figure.
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Or....after losing Schwartz and Mack.....and KNOWING they'd probably leave and having tons of time to plan.....they end up doing absolutely nothing to replace them?
Could have easily signed a couple vet FA's....or drafted a center......
But to commit to Erving....after watching him last year?.....and not have a back up or a vet to step in?.....turble
Did the same thing with OLBS......cut 3 out of 4 vets....then drafted 1 in the 4th.......and waited 8 weeks into the season, then said....HEY! We need an OLB......
A plan guaranteed to make you suck.....
Call me crazy, but I'm actually ok with this year's LB core. Remember, the Desmond Bryant injury moved Ogbah to the D line, so he's out of position.
I'm surprised Shon Coleman hasn't hardly played. Drango looked bad yesterday, but we need to see more. Could it possibly be the weak link at center is causing all the other breakdowns of the line?
Call me crazy, but I'm actually ok with this year's LB core. Remember, the Desmond Bryant injury moved Ogbah to the D line, so he's out of position.
Ok....you asked for it.....yer crazy
Ogbah belongs on the line....and is out of position at OLB.....my opinion
Lemonier and Cam Johnson excite you?.....cause it sure couldnt be Schobert.....
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The real head scratcher was why the running game was abandoned so early.
If I recall, there was only 10 rushing attempts (2 by Duke and 8 by Crow).
I'm sure Kessler would've liked that.
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Wasn't Ogbah a hybrid at OkState? Alternating between line and LB? I thought they drafted him for that versatility. Kirksey has been pretty damn good, although I'd like to see him force turnovers more.
I wasn't crazy about Kruger, thought he was over rated. So yeah, I was happy with the youth movement there. Scooby must not be fast enough, that's why he dropped to 7th round, but I'd let him play now...the guy knows how to tackle (a major defensive weakness this season).
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Ha!....the running game was abandoned like 5 weeks ago....where ya been?
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Or....after losing Schwartz and Mack.....and KNOWING they'd probably leave and having tons of time to plan.....they end up doing absolutely nothing to replace them?
Could have easily signed a couple vet FA's....or drafted a center......
But to commit to Erving....after watching him last year?.....and not have a back up or a vet to step in?.....turble
Did the same thing with OLBS......cut 3 out of 4 vets....then drafted 1 in the 4th.......and waited 8 weeks into the season, then said....HEY! We need an OLB......
A plan guaranteed to make you suck.....
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Wasn't Ogbah a hybrid at OkState? Alternating between line and LB? I thought they drafted him for that versatility. Kirksey has been pretty damn good, although I'd like to see him force turnovers more.
I wasn't crazy about Kruger, thought he was over rated. So yeah, I was happy with the youth movement there. Scooby must not be fast enough, that's why he dropped to 7th round, but I'd let him play now...the guy knows how to tackle (a major defensive weakness this season).
Wasn't Ogbah a hybrid at OkState? Alternating between line and LB? I thought they drafted him for that versatility. Kirksey has been pretty damn good, although I'd like to see him force turnovers more.
I wasn't crazy about Kruger, thought he was over rated. So yeah, I was happy with the youth movement there. Scooby must not be fast enough, that's why he dropped to 7th round, but I'd let him play now...the guy knows how to tackle (a major defensive weakness this season).
I think og was pure DE, but i could be wrong. All of the tape i saw of him he came up from the dirt, always lined up wide. In any case yeah he doesn't belong at LB'er. I agree that the ILB'ers are kind of a pleasant surprise this year. Demario looks like he tracks the ball carrier better than any LB'er we've had for years. I would love to run the 4-3 with him, kirksey, schobert and Collins rotating in.
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Go figure but the 4 games since Malcolm Johnson was released the Browns have rushed for 68, 45, 33 & 33.Ha!....the running game was abandoned like 5 weeks ago....where ya been?
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
Ogbah was a 3pt DE every snap I saw while he was at Okie state.
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Ogbah was a 3pt DE every snap I saw while he was at Okie state.
That was my recollection as well. Unless Horton's plan is to really transition to a base 4-3 i don't know why you take two huge college DE's that are gonna struggle more than other 4-3 DE"s to make the transition to OLB'er. I mean Nassib is 6'7 and although i saw some decent things out of him in the beginning of the year from the standup....he should be a zone dropping DE nothing more. Same with Og.
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Or....after losing Schwartz and Mack.....and KNOWING they'd probably leave and having tons of time to plan.....they end up doing absolutely nothing to replace them?
Could have easily signed a couple vet FA's....or drafted a center......
But to commit to Erving....after watching him last year?.....and not have a back up or a vet to step in?.....turble
Did the same thing with OLBS......cut 3 out of 4 vets....then drafted 1 in the 4th.......and waited 8 weeks into the season, then said....HEY! We need an OLB......
A plan guaranteed to make you suck.....
Call me crazy, but I'm actually ok with this year's LB core. Remember, the Desmond Bryant injury moved Ogbah to the D line, so he's out of position.
I'm surprised Shon Coleman hasn't hardly played. Drango looked bad yesterday, but we need to see more. Could it possibly be the weak link at center is causing all the other breakdowns of the line?
Call me crazy, but I'm actually ok with this year's LB core. Remember, the Desmond Bryant injury moved Ogbah to the D line, so he's out of position.
I'm surprised Shon Coleman hasn't hardly played. Drango looked bad yesterday, but we need to see more. Could it possibly be the weak link at center is causing all the other breakdowns of the line?
Obby isn't out of position by a long stretch. Put him in a 2pt on the strong side then ask him to drop, cover, and push the pocket from that role. Then you'll see what 'out of position' is.
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Those were some Braylonesque drops by our first round WR.
Those were some Braylonesque drops by our first round WR.
I thought of him too...go figure
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So our "makeover" has thus far produced a team that can't run, can't stop the run, can't pass, can't stop the pass and created a permanent dogpile behind our LOS that has sent QB's to the bench so many times I have now lost count.
But we have a long term plan.
OK-so how is step one of that plan working out so far? Stands full of foes and empty seats, few veterans to help the transition and piles of cash the owner has saved up for "A NEW CAR!!-COME ON DOWN JIMMY HASLAM!" (in my best game show announcer voice).
Well at least my "plan" has won me the weekly NFL fantasy league I'm in three times this season so far. I drafted better than the Browns.
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