Call your shot. OSU VS UM
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Cardale is on the Bills roster.
As for JT -he has his degree, undefeated vs scUM,natty ring, major bowl victory and holds just about every passing record in team history.
He certainly won't be a high pick but he may feel it's time to move on. Urban has hinted at it as well.
Cardale is on the Bills roster.
As for JT -he has his degree, undefeated vs scUM,natty ring, major bowl victory and holds just about every passing record in team history.
He certainly won't be a high pick but he may feel it's time to move on. Urban has hinted at it as well.
I just don't see what he'd be moving on to. Unless he really thinks he is an NFL QB, and he feels like getting into the league ASAP is his best bet to learn.
Or, he thinks he'll need to change positions, and getting into the NFL ASAP is his best chance to learn a position.
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Cardale is on the Bills roster.
As for JT -he has his degree, undefeated vs scUM,natty ring, major bowl victory and holds just about every passing record in team history.
He certainly won't be a high pick but he may feel it's time to move on. Urban has hinted at it as well.
I just don't see what he'd be moving on to. Unless he really thinks he is an NFL QB, and he feels like getting into the league ASAP is his best bet to learn.
Or, he thinks he'll need to change positions, and getting into the NFL ASAP is his best chance to learn a position.
I just don't see what he'd be moving on to. Unless he really thinks he is an NFL QB, and he feels like getting into the league ASAP is his best bet to learn.
Or, he thinks he'll need to change positions, and getting into the NFL ASAP is his best chance to learn a position.
Is JT a starter in the league? No.
Has he shown flashes of possibly being a quality backup or at least holding a roster spot, working on his craft and making professional athlete dollars..? Yes.
Barrett isn't like Pryor, he's no freak athlete. Either he latches on somewhere as a QB or he doesn't play at all.
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Speight played well considering the injury. He has been standing in the pocket, delivering the pass and taking a shot all year. He's also more mobile than his 6'6" frame portrays. Like a poor man's Big Ben. He was a 3* recruit that Harbaugh has built up. Most didn't even think he'd start this year. The stream of highly touted QB recruits starts next year (Peters coming off of a RS, McCaffrey on campus), so there is a chance Speight doesn't even start next year.
We have no chance in this game without Speight. I wish we took some shots deep though. The pick six was caused by the blitzing defender getting a piece of the ball as Speight released, tipping it right to the defender. Good blitz, missed pick up by the HB, unlucky result. The second pick was just a bad read. Idk who the fumbled snap was on. Speight definitely made some mistakes, but we aren't in this game without him. He did a great job moving the ball and hitting WRs on timing routes in tight windows. Its unfortunate the mistakes cost us so much.
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I just don't see what he'd be moving on to. Unless he really thinks he is an NFL QB, and he feels like getting into the league ASAP is his best bet to learn.
Or, he thinks he'll need to change positions, and getting into the NFL ASAP is his best chance to learn a position.
Is JT a starter in the league? No.
Has he shown flashes of possibly being a quality backup or at least holding a roster spot, working on his craft and making professional athlete dollars..? Yes.
Barrett isn't like Pryor, he's no freak athlete. Either he latches on somewhere as a QB or he doesn't play at all.
Is JT a starter in the league? No.
Has he shown flashes of possibly being a quality backup or at least holding a roster spot, working on his craft and making professional athlete dollars..? Yes.
Barrett isn't like Pryor, he's no freak athlete. Either he latches on somewhere as a QB or he doesn't play at all.
I can kind of see what you're saying. He isn't going to get any more prepared for the NFL staying at OSU. Meyer doesn't build NFL QBs and there's no way they make him a HB. If he wants to go all in on his NFL future, I could see why he would leave.
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As long as Urban is at OSU, no big ten team will have the same talent.
I completely disagree with this. Meyer is a fantastic coach, but he isn't god. Michigan is going to get the same level of talent in recruiting.
I completely disagree with this. Meyer is a fantastic coach, but he isn't god. Michigan is going to get the same level of talent in recruiting.
So if Harbaugh and Meyer are going for the exact same guy or position Harbaugh wins out?
I wouldn't bet on that one! But Harbaugh will raid other B1G and other schools and Michigan will have good talent.
Also another thing we will find out in a week or so and later, does OHIO STATE move on this year? Does anyone trip up Alabama? Does all that further help Meyer's recruiting over Michigan?
The arms race is on.
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I completely disagree with this. Meyer is a fantastic coach, but he isn't god. Michigan is going to get the same level of talent in recruiting.
So if Harbaugh and Meyer are going for the exact same guy or position Harbaugh wins out?
I wouldn't bet on that one! But Harbaugh will raid other B1G and other schools and Michigan will have good talent.
Also another thing we will find out in a week or so and later, does OHIO STATE move on this year? Does anyone trip up Alabama? Does all that further help Meyer's recruiting over Michigan?
The arms race is on.
So if Harbaugh and Meyer are going for the exact same guy or position Harbaugh wins out?
I wouldn't bet on that one! But Harbaugh will raid other B1G and other schools and Michigan will have good talent.
Also another thing we will find out in a week or so and later, does OHIO STATE move on this year? Does anyone trip up Alabama? Does all that further help Meyer's recruiting over Michigan?
The arms race is on.
In what world did I say Harbaugh wins out? Harbaugh will in some, Meyer will win some. In a lot of cases, they won't be competing against the same guy.
Gary was the #1 recruit in the country, you don't think Meyer wanted him?
OSU is a very talented, very deep team, and will continue to be. Michigan will be there very soon.
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Oh and wilton speight sucks.
Speight with a good shoulder, if he was at OSU he'd have the starting job. JT would be mr WildDawg.
Speight with a good shoulder, if he was at OSU he'd have the starting job. JT would be mr WildDawg.
Makes sense. Urban is so fond of non-running statuesque white QBs.
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OSU had the youngest team in the country this year. Michigan had 40-something seniors. Yeah, advantage Meyer.
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Speight showed me nothing.
he throws a better ball than barrett
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OSU had the youngest team in the country this year. Michigan had 40-something seniors. Yeah, advantage Meyer.
OSU had the youngest team in the country this year. Michigan had 40-something seniors. Yeah, advantage Meyer.
Youngest of all P5 teams and they are 11-1 beating OKL, WISC, NEB and of course "m".
Amazing coaching job by URBAN this year Harbaugh did ok too.
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We fucking blew it.t.
Michigan was the better team for most of the game, those int's killed it
Michigan was the better team for most of the game, those int's killed it
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
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Should be first team to score wins. This is crazy.
Should be first team to score wins. This is crazy.
College OT rules are stupid. They should be more like the pro rules. But, it is what it is.
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He didn't cost us the game
No, turnovers and failure to stop the run did.
The refs did miss calls
One, maybe....
He will beat Urban
Sure, some time, if he stays.
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No he won'tHe didn't cost us the game
The refs did miss calls
He will beat Urban
OSU is the youngest team in college football
Um had 43? Seniors that didn't beat OSU.
by the time um gets good enough, harbutt will be back in the NFL
No he won't
OSU is the youngest team in college football
Um had 43? Seniors that didn't beat OSU.
by the time um gets good enough, harbutt will be back in the NFL
As I understand it, in the starting lineups, Michigan started 17 seniors, Ohio State started one (1)....Elflein.
That is what I heard reported....but I didn't personally verify that.
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I would guess Jim Irsay will be calling as soon as the season is over. If not sooner
Andrew Luck, who harbutt coached and recruited in college, and then the team he had the only success in the NFL as a player
If he stays at um and the Colts go with a different coach, it will be a SHOCK!!!!!!
I would guess Jim Irsay will be calling as soon as the season is over. If not sooner
Andrew Luck, who harbutt coached and recruited in college, and then the team he had the only success in the NFL as a player
If he stays at um and the Colts go with a different coach, it will be a SHOCK!!!!!!
Interesting. That certainly is a place with a pro job that could go after him. Do you think: A. that Caldwell would be fired B. that Harbaugh would contemplate it at this point? (I don't....maybe in another 2-3-4 years....right now I think he feels he has to win at least one OSU/Mich Game.
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Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. He lives on the same street Bo did. His dad is his neighbor. His kids are going to school where he did as a child and he has another kid on the way. We can outpay anyone. The only people that think he'll go to the NFL are people that know nothing about what they're talking about.
Meyer started this back and forth with a headstart on Harbaugh, obviously. Harbaugh has been killing it in recruiting, and we'll soon be able to match OSU's talent. We took this OSU team, in Cbus, to two overtimes. In a game we should have one and got bad calls in. We're clearly progressing.
It sucks we lost, I hate it, but there is no need to go full blown ignorant OSU fan on this.
Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. He lives on the same street Bo did. His dad is his neighbor. His kids are going to school where he did as a child and he has another kid on the way. We can outpay anyone. The only people that think he'll go to the NFL are people that know nothing about what they're talking about.
Meyer started this back and forth with a headstart on Harbaugh, obviously. Harbaugh has been killing it in recruiting, and we'll soon be able to match OSU's talent. We took this OSU team, in Cbus, to two overtimes. In a game we should have one and got bad calls in. We're clearly progressing.
It sucks we lost, I hate it, but there is no need to go full blown ignorant OSU fan on this.
You are becoming about as whiny...and ignorant.. a bitch as Harbaugh about the penalties. Face it....this is the best chance you had in about the next 3-4 year period. OSU is killing recruiting even more so. And them going to the CFP can only help. You may have progressed as far as you are going to go.
And living on Bo's street means nothing. I am right here, right now sitting in Bo's hometown. Does that mean I will stay here and coach where Bo coached?
But, I agree, Harbaugh won't be going anywhere real soon......but he is a high strung horse with a short attention span. He may move on in a few years...but not this year.
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I'm guessing harbutt thinks this way...... He made it to numerous NFC title games and a Super Bowl, with a sub standard QB.I'd agree with college coaches wanting to jump to the NFL -except- now the elite college jobs pay about $5M+ and some even more and many mid to older coaches might choose the NCAA life.
Plus Harbaugh is a m alum and Bo disciple, I'd bet he stays put....but I'd hope he leaves and Rich Rod or other m former coaches would return
If he goes to the Colts, he gets a way way better QB, and he's friends with the owner.
Money isn't a factor, IMO. He will make the same or more in the pro's.
I think it will be much easier to win the AFC south then it will be to beat Urban and OSU.
You can lose 2-6 games and win a division title in the NFL. You lose 2 games in college and you're playing in the gatorbowl
I'm guessing harbutt thinks this way...... He made it to numerous NFC title games and a Super Bowl, with a sub standard QB.
If he goes to the Colts, he gets a way way better QB, and he's friends with the owner.
Money isn't a factor, IMO. He will make the same or more in the pro's.
I think it will be much easier to win the AFC south then it will be to beat Urban and OSU.
You can lose 2-6 games and win a division title in the NFL. You lose 2 games in college and you're playing in the gatorbowl
Again, fair point. Too many Gator Bowls for him...and Michigan alums may turn on him like the last couple of coaches they had there.
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Why are you putting "full" in quotes. How many guys are playing at OSU this year that have been on the team longer than two recruiting classes? Anyone got any info on that?
I am saying "full" because this will be the first class he started recruiting "from the beginning" at Michigan, but not the first class through one season of him as a HC (last year).
College coaches start scouting and contacting guys in their Jr year or earlier. This class would be the guys that Harbaugh would be able to do that with. That is why I am saying "full"
I am saying "full" because this will be the first class he started recruiting "from the beginning" at Michigan, but not the first class through one season of him as a HC (last year).
College coaches start scouting and contacting guys in their Jr year or earlier. This class would be the guys that Harbaugh would be able to do that with. That is why I am saying "full"
I don't think having the name "Harbaugh" associated with a recruit helps that much. This was a talent laden senior laden Michigan team...none of whom were recruited by Harbaugh. I don't think the talent level that UM has been getting under Harbaugh is any better than what they got before him. There are going to be a number of top round draft picks coming out of Michigan this year......are you saying they suck in comparison to what is coming in? I don't think so.
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Michigan was the better team for most of the game, those int's killed it
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
Michigan dominated the 1st half, and were at worst even in the 3rd. We got gassed in the 4th.
But that calls back to not having the depth OSU does. Which calls back to it only being year 2 of Harbaugh and Meyer's head start.
If OSU needed 2 OT, at home, and controversial/incorrect ref calls to win, we're in a good spot going forward.
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