Call your shot. OSU VS UM
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Oh and wilton speight sucks.
Speight with a good shoulder, if he was at OSU he'd have the starting job. JT would be mr WildDawg.
Speight with a good shoulder, if he was at OSU he'd have the starting job. JT would be mr WildDawg.
Makes sense. Urban is so fond of non-running statuesque white QBs.
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OSU had the youngest team in the country this year. Michigan had 40-something seniors. Yeah, advantage Meyer.
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Speight showed me nothing.
he throws a better ball than barrett
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OSU had the youngest team in the country this year. Michigan had 40-something seniors. Yeah, advantage Meyer.
OSU had the youngest team in the country this year. Michigan had 40-something seniors. Yeah, advantage Meyer.
Youngest of all P5 teams and they are 11-1 beating OKL, WISC, NEB and of course "m".
Amazing coaching job by URBAN this year Harbaugh did ok too.
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We fucking blew it.t.
Michigan was the better team for most of the game, those int's killed it
Michigan was the better team for most of the game, those int's killed it
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
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Should be first team to score wins. This is crazy.
Should be first team to score wins. This is crazy.
College OT rules are stupid. They should be more like the pro rules. But, it is what it is.
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He didn't cost us the game
No, turnovers and failure to stop the run did.
The refs did miss calls
One, maybe....
He will beat Urban
Sure, some time, if he stays.
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No he won'tHe didn't cost us the game
The refs did miss calls
He will beat Urban
OSU is the youngest team in college football
Um had 43? Seniors that didn't beat OSU.
by the time um gets good enough, harbutt will be back in the NFL
No he won't
OSU is the youngest team in college football
Um had 43? Seniors that didn't beat OSU.
by the time um gets good enough, harbutt will be back in the NFL
As I understand it, in the starting lineups, Michigan started 17 seniors, Ohio State started one (1)....Elflein.
That is what I heard reported....but I didn't personally verify that.
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I would guess Jim Irsay will be calling as soon as the season is over. If not sooner
Andrew Luck, who harbutt coached and recruited in college, and then the team he had the only success in the NFL as a player
If he stays at um and the Colts go with a different coach, it will be a SHOCK!!!!!!
I would guess Jim Irsay will be calling as soon as the season is over. If not sooner
Andrew Luck, who harbutt coached and recruited in college, and then the team he had the only success in the NFL as a player
If he stays at um and the Colts go with a different coach, it will be a SHOCK!!!!!!
Interesting. That certainly is a place with a pro job that could go after him. Do you think: A. that Caldwell would be fired B. that Harbaugh would contemplate it at this point? (I don't....maybe in another 2-3-4 years....right now I think he feels he has to win at least one OSU/Mich Game.
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Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. He lives on the same street Bo did. His dad is his neighbor. His kids are going to school where he did as a child and he has another kid on the way. We can outpay anyone. The only people that think he'll go to the NFL are people that know nothing about what they're talking about.
Meyer started this back and forth with a headstart on Harbaugh, obviously. Harbaugh has been killing it in recruiting, and we'll soon be able to match OSU's talent. We took this OSU team, in Cbus, to two overtimes. In a game we should have one and got bad calls in. We're clearly progressing.
It sucks we lost, I hate it, but there is no need to go full blown ignorant OSU fan on this.
Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. He lives on the same street Bo did. His dad is his neighbor. His kids are going to school where he did as a child and he has another kid on the way. We can outpay anyone. The only people that think he'll go to the NFL are people that know nothing about what they're talking about.
Meyer started this back and forth with a headstart on Harbaugh, obviously. Harbaugh has been killing it in recruiting, and we'll soon be able to match OSU's talent. We took this OSU team, in Cbus, to two overtimes. In a game we should have one and got bad calls in. We're clearly progressing.
It sucks we lost, I hate it, but there is no need to go full blown ignorant OSU fan on this.
You are becoming about as whiny...and ignorant.. a bitch as Harbaugh about the penalties. Face it....this is the best chance you had in about the next 3-4 year period. OSU is killing recruiting even more so. And them going to the CFP can only help. You may have progressed as far as you are going to go.
And living on Bo's street means nothing. I am right here, right now sitting in Bo's hometown. Does that mean I will stay here and coach where Bo coached?
But, I agree, Harbaugh won't be going anywhere real soon......but he is a high strung horse with a short attention span. He may move on in a few years...but not this year.
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I'm guessing harbutt thinks this way...... He made it to numerous NFC title games and a Super Bowl, with a sub standard QB.I'd agree with college coaches wanting to jump to the NFL -except- now the elite college jobs pay about $5M+ and some even more and many mid to older coaches might choose the NCAA life.
Plus Harbaugh is a m alum and Bo disciple, I'd bet he stays put....but I'd hope he leaves and Rich Rod or other m former coaches would return
If he goes to the Colts, he gets a way way better QB, and he's friends with the owner.
Money isn't a factor, IMO. He will make the same or more in the pro's.
I think it will be much easier to win the AFC south then it will be to beat Urban and OSU.
You can lose 2-6 games and win a division title in the NFL. You lose 2 games in college and you're playing in the gatorbowl
I'm guessing harbutt thinks this way...... He made it to numerous NFC title games and a Super Bowl, with a sub standard QB.
If he goes to the Colts, he gets a way way better QB, and he's friends with the owner.
Money isn't a factor, IMO. He will make the same or more in the pro's.
I think it will be much easier to win the AFC south then it will be to beat Urban and OSU.
You can lose 2-6 games and win a division title in the NFL. You lose 2 games in college and you're playing in the gatorbowl
Again, fair point. Too many Gator Bowls for him...and Michigan alums may turn on him like the last couple of coaches they had there.
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Why are you putting "full" in quotes. How many guys are playing at OSU this year that have been on the team longer than two recruiting classes? Anyone got any info on that?
I am saying "full" because this will be the first class he started recruiting "from the beginning" at Michigan, but not the first class through one season of him as a HC (last year).
College coaches start scouting and contacting guys in their Jr year or earlier. This class would be the guys that Harbaugh would be able to do that with. That is why I am saying "full"
I am saying "full" because this will be the first class he started recruiting "from the beginning" at Michigan, but not the first class through one season of him as a HC (last year).
College coaches start scouting and contacting guys in their Jr year or earlier. This class would be the guys that Harbaugh would be able to do that with. That is why I am saying "full"
I don't think having the name "Harbaugh" associated with a recruit helps that much. This was a talent laden senior laden Michigan team...none of whom were recruited by Harbaugh. I don't think the talent level that UM has been getting under Harbaugh is any better than what they got before him. There are going to be a number of top round draft picks coming out of Michigan this year......are you saying they suck in comparison to what is coming in? I don't think so.
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Michigan was the better team for most of the game, those int's killed it
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
Michigan dominated the 1st half, and were at worst even in the 3rd. We got gassed in the 4th.
But that calls back to not having the depth OSU does. Which calls back to it only being year 2 of Harbaugh and Meyer's head start.
If OSU needed 2 OT, at home, and controversial/incorrect ref calls to win, we're in a good spot going forward.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I am saying "full" because this will be the first class he started recruiting "from the beginning" at Michigan, but not the first class through one season of him as a HC (last year).
College coaches start scouting and contacting guys in their Jr year or earlier. This class would be the guys that Harbaugh would be able to do that with. That is why I am saying "full"
I don't think having the name "Harbaugh" associated with a recruit helps that much. This was a talent laden senior laden Michigan team...none of whom were recruited by Harbaugh. I don't think the talent level that UM has been getting under Harbaugh is any better than what they got before him. There are going to be a number of top round draft picks coming out of Michigan this year......are you saying they suck in comparison to what is coming in? I don't think so.
I don't think having the name "Harbaugh" associated with a recruit helps that much. This was a talent laden senior laden Michigan team...none of whom were recruited by Harbaugh. I don't think the talent level that UM has been getting under Harbaugh is any better than what they got before him. There are going to be a number of top round draft picks coming out of Michigan this year......are you saying they suck in comparison to what is coming in? I don't think so.
To be fair, you have no idea what you're talking about lol. You're making claims about Michigan's recruiting when I guarantee you know nothing about it.
Of course none of the seniors were recruited by Harbaugh, he's only been here less than two years.
The talent level is definitely better,lol. More importantly, it's being developed. All of these NFL prospects, that has a ton to do with the last two years of coaching they got.
We were hurt by a lack of depth, which is just Harbaugh not being here that long yet.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I'm guessing harbutt thinks this way...... He made it to numerous NFC title games and a Super Bowl, with a sub standard QB.
If he goes to the Colts, he gets a way way better QB, and he's friends with the owner.
Money isn't a factor, IMO. He will make the same or more in the pro's.
I think it will be much easier to win the AFC south then it will be to beat Urban and OSU.
You can lose 2-6 games and win a division title in the NFL. You lose 2 games in college and you're playing in the gatorbowl
Again, fair point. Too many Gator Bowls for him...and Michigan alums may turn on him like the last couple of coaches they had there.
Again, fair point. Too many Gator Bowls for him...and Michigan alums may turn on him like the last couple of coaches they had there.
We aren't going to the Gator bowl
Do you have any understanding of the situation behind our last coaches? How they were hired. Why they were fired?
He isn't going to the NFL hahaha
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. He lives on the same street Bo did. His dad is his neighbor. His kids are going to school where he did as a child and he has another kid on the way. We can outpay anyone. The only people that think he'll go to the NFL are people that know nothing about what they're talking about.
Meyer started this back and forth with a headstart on Harbaugh, obviously. Harbaugh has been killing it in recruiting, and we'll soon be able to match OSU's talent. We took this OSU team, in Cbus, to two overtimes. In a game we should have one and got bad calls in. We're clearly progressing.
It sucks we lost, I hate it, but there is no need to go full blown ignorant OSU fan on this.
You are becoming about as whiny...and ignorant.. a bitch as Harbaugh about the penalties. Face it....this is the best chance you had in about the next 3-4 year period. OSU is killing recruiting even more so. And them going to the CFP can only help. You may have progressed as far as you are going to go.
And living on Bo's street means nothing. I am right here, right now sitting in Bo's hometown. Does that mean I will stay here and coach where Bo coached?
But, I agree, Harbaugh won't be going anywhere real soon......but he is a high strung horse with a short attention span. He may move on in a few years...but not this year.
You are becoming about as whiny...and ignorant.. a bitch as Harbaugh about the penalties. Face it....this is the best chance you had in about the next 3-4 year period. OSU is killing recruiting even more so. And them going to the CFP can only help. You may have progressed as far as you are going to go.
And living on Bo's street means nothing. I am right here, right now sitting in Bo's hometown. Does that mean I will stay here and coach where Bo coached?
But, I agree, Harbaugh won't be going anywhere real soon......but he is a high strung horse with a short attention span. He may move on in a few years...but not this year.
Are you trying to be an idiot? In what world does you living in Bo's hometown have any fucking significance here?
Why is this the best chance we'll have? In year freaking two. Really?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Yet, they play a 60 minute game....not a 30 minute game. OSU has done this before.
But, note, here are some vital stats that may be telling:
First downs: OSU 23, Mich 16
Rush yards: OSU 246 Mich 118
Turnovers: OSU 1 Mich 3
You win the first down game, the rushing game by more than double, and the TO game....you win.
Also, 4th quarter time of possession:
OSU 11:07 Mich 3:53
You control the ball in the 4th quarter of a tight game...and you often come out on top.
Mich won the passing yards game: 219 to 124.
All I am saying is that so much for the theory that TUN dominated this game.
Overall time of possession was just about even.
Michigan dominated the 1st half, and were at worst even in the 3rd. We got gassed in the 4th.
But that calls back to not having the depth OSU does. Which calls back to it only being year 2 of Harbaugh and Meyer's head start.
If OSU needed 2 OT, at home, and controversial/incorrect ref calls to win, we're in a good spot going forward.
Michigan dominated the 1st half, and were at worst even in the 3rd. We got gassed in the 4th.
But that calls back to not having the depth OSU does. Which calls back to it only being year 2 of Harbaugh and Meyer's head start.
If you were dominating the entire first half and some of the third qtr.....why would depth have anything to do with it. It is OSU that should have been getting gassed due to UMs time of possession, not the other way around.
If OSU needed 2 OT, at home, and controversial/incorrect ref calls to win, we're in a good spot going forward.
Except....you lose 17 starters...from what I understand. Where does that put you in relation to OSU. You had the far more experienced team.....with the less experienced team, you get what you had the last few year: an OSU romp.
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I don't think having the name "Harbaugh" associated with a recruit helps that much. This was a talent laden senior laden Michigan team...none of whom were recruited by Harbaugh. I don't think the talent level that UM has been getting under Harbaugh is any better than what they got before him. There are going to be a number of top round draft picks coming out of Michigan this year......are you saying they suck in comparison to what is coming in? I don't think so.
To be fair, you have no idea what you're talking about lol. You're making claims about Michigan's recruiting when I guarantee you know nothing about it.
Of course none of the seniors were recruited by Harbaugh, he's only been here less than two years.
The talent level is definitely better,lol. More importantly, it's being developed. All of these NFL prospects, that has a ton to do with the last two years of coaching they got.
We were hurt by a lack of depth, which is just Harbaugh not being here that long yet.
To be fair, you have no idea what you're talking about lol. You're making claims about Michigan's recruiting when I guarantee you know nothing about it.
Of course none of the seniors were recruited by Harbaugh, he's only been here less than two years.
I know everything about it. You claim that UM is going to go apeshit better than OSU just because Harbaugh is there.
I say bullshit. Even if UM improves their recruiting...they are still not doing better at it than Ohio St.
The talent level is definitely better,lol. More importantly, it's being developed. All of these NFL prospects, that has a ton to do with the last two years of coaching they got.
If the talent level is so much better...then why was Harbaugh starting 17 seniors....guys he didn't recruit...over the younger guys he did recruit.
I agree he has coached them much better than the previous guy. I am just not sure your younger guys are any better than the guys you have leaving...pure talent wise.
You are only expecting...hoping that is the case in order to close the gap. You are simply being Dusty Springfield.
We were hurt by a lack of depth, which is just Harbaugh not being here that long yet.
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Again, fair point. Too many Gator Bowls for him...and Michigan alums may turn on him like the last couple of coaches they had there.
We aren't going to the Gator bowl
Do you have any understanding of the situation behind our last coaches? How they were hired. Why they were fired?
He isn't going to the NFL hahaha
We aren't going to the Gator bowl
Do you have any understanding of the situation behind our last coaches? How they were hired. Why they were fired?
He isn't going to the NFL hahaha
No, but it might be the Outback Bowl......(probably not as good a bowl). Big Ten Champ goes to Rose Bowl...if not in CFP. So UM won't get the Rose.
But they might get the Orange. The Orange gets to pick from the highest rated team from SEC/Big Ten or Notre Dame.
So, that will likely be Michigan. (assuming they don't make the CFP). No SEC schools good enough. Nor ND.
As for why your previous coaches were fired? They were losers (and more than just losing to OSU). Yes, Harbaugh is an upgrade there.....and yes, he isn't going to the NFL...not just yet. But it could happen before too much longer.
Rumors like the Indy job could start to float.
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